A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

Rodan75

Rodan75

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lazyboy97o said:
Steamboat Willie is still protected by copyright in the United States.

I honestly don’t have a problem with remakes. Stories have been told and retold for millennia, but they should be done with creative purpose and not simply because it has been done before. Cristopher Robin is the first to really bother me since Christopher Robin had a complicated relationship with the success of his father’s stories.
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In the US. And there have been lawsuits working their way through the courts to try and re-litigate this topic.

But I think refreshing the IP for international audiences and ensuring that Disney has the definitive modern version drives much of this.

BTW - this topic is why I was so surprised that Universal essentially surrendered their ‘ownership’ of King Kong to Legendary/Warner Bros.

I see others addressed the copywrite/Trade Mark part more completely.
 
Rodan75

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AEfx said:
Ugh. I didn't realize that. That certainly does quell some enthusiasm for it.

This whole streaming thing...I realize that if anyone can do it on their own, it is Disney, but seriously...everyone wants their own little service, and this gating of content behind it...honestly, it's just going to lead to more people torrenting and such again. No one wants to and many just can't plain afford a dozen different services every month just to watch one or two shows.
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All of the streaming services really just gives folks the ability to build their own cable bundle. When you look at it from that perspective it feels a little less sketchy. Cable companies like bundle because it allows them to blame ESPN for high prices and hide all of their profit.

Netflix is proving how much money the cable companies are pocketing
 
AEfx

AEfx

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the.dreamfinder said:
Funnily enough, Congress is looking to extend copyrights for recordings to 140-144 years with the CLASSICS Act.
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Wow, I hadn't heard that yet. When you think about a length of time that long, it just is absurd.

It is difficult to imagine that either side can pass something like that in today's political climate, particularly when it is going to come to Hollywood. The Republicans want nothing to do with "Hollywood Liberal Elites" and the Democrats know it will be seen as a corporate well-fare move. There certainly is no "public interest" that can be claimed.
 
Pixieish

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Princess Leia said:
I really enjoyed the Pete’s Dragon remake. Don’t get me wrong, I liked the original, but I liked the sense of peace I got from the new version (and not running out of the room crying like I did with the original when I was a kid). On the flip side, I didn’t like the Beauty and the Beast remake. Jungle Book and Cinderella are the only remakes that I’ve purchased to watch again (their stories differed enough from the ‘source’ material, so I felt like I could enjoy them more).

I would much rather see Disney remake movies like Black Cauldron and Rescuers than go after 101 Dalmatians, Lady & the Tramp, Peter Pan, Aladdin, and Lion King. They just seem untouchable to me.
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I enjoyed the new Pete's Dragon too - but the original will always hold a special place in my heart (I was adopted). 101 Dalmatians has been done to death, and I feel like Peter Pan has, too (I saw Sandy Duncan perform the stage role when I was a kid).
 
geekza

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AEfx said:
They can't stop the original Mickey Shorts from the public domain, but they are clearly heck-bent on keeping those Trademarks alive.
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Considering that they release some form of merchandise on an almost-daily basis with Mickey on it, I don't think they ever need to worry about the trademark registration expiring. Charles Mintz had no idea of the implications of his Oswald grab would have on the future of copyright and trademark law. That one move caused Walt to vow to never again let anyone else own the rights to one of his creations.
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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TiggerDad said:
Now you're just trolling Spirit into coming back to attack one of his favorite targets.
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Understand that last year Zenia successfully killed stories about Lasseter and Pixar which would have had people speaking on the record with their real names.

There’s a reason why a #metoo hasn’t happened at Disney and she’s why.
 
Rodan75

Rodan75

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Pixieish said:
I would love to see Disney use its weight to set a precedent in not bowing to mob mentality and condemning cyber-attacks.
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The one thing that letter does do, is poison the media tour for Guardians 3. If Disney doesn't rehire Gunn, the media tour will be 100% about Gunn, you won't be able to block those questions. The easiest answer is probably simply, don't do GoTGv3 without Gunn. But...The Avengers 4 press tour will also become all about Gunn because of this letter since the movie features the Guardians.

The cast doesn't seem like they should have a lot of power, but they have really boxed Disney in. They can't just fire and walk away now, I think the Ringer article is good at expressing that.

My gut says there will be some form of compromise position that gets announced. Gunn will be able to come back, but new Twitter/Facebook rules will go into effect for Disney creators or he will come back as an Exec Producer/Screenwriter but not the Director.

Disney is going to find it harder and harder to find talented Directors to take on big franchise movies if it doesn't figure out a better way to deal with Twitter/Social Media.
 
Pixieish

Pixieish

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Rodan75 said:
The one thing that letter does do, is poison the media tour for Guardians 3. If Disney doesn't rehire Gunn, the media tour will be 100% about Gunn, you won't be able to block those questions. The easiest answer is probably simply, don't do GoTGv3 without Gunn. But...The Avengers 4 press tour will also become all about Gunn because of this letter since the movie features the Guardians.

The cast doesn't seem like they should have a lot of power, but they have really boxed Disney in. They can't just fire and walk away now, I think the Ringer article is good at expressing that.

My gut says there will be some form of compromise position that gets announced. Gunn will be able to come back, but new Twitter/Facebook rules will go into effect for Disney creators or he will come back as an Exec Producer/Screenwriter but not the Director.

Disney is going to find it harder and harder to find talented Directors to take on big franchise movies if it doesn't figure out a better way to deal with Twitter/Social Media.
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I agree. And I wonder about a couple of things...whether Iger and the other execs are fully aware of the letter and are testing the waters to see what bringing Gunn back in would feel like, and whether the timing of the letter being released while Iger is reportedly on vacation has any significance.

Disney would be foolish to not establish any kind of social media rules going foward - they'd be setting themselves and anyone working for them up for disaster by not doing so.

I would love to set up a poll asking for/against in the Disney group I run, but we try to avoid creating "us/them" situations in there at all costs. Our admin duties are amazingly light considering we have a decent mix of those that love snarky/sarcastic/dirty humor and those who don't.
 
Princess Leia

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Rodan75 said:
The one thing that letter does do, is poison the media tour for Guardians 3. If Disney doesn't rehire Gunn, the media tour will be 100% about Gunn, you won't be able to block those questions. The easiest answer is probably simply, don't do GoTGv3 without Gunn. But...The Avengers 4 press tour will also become all about Gunn because of this letter since the movie features the Guardians.

The cast doesn't seem like they should have a lot of power, but they have really boxed Disney in. They can't just fire and walk away now, I think the Ringer article is good at expressing that.

My gut says there will be some form of compromise position that gets announced. Gunn will be able to come back, but new Twitter/Facebook rules will go into effect for Disney creators or he will come back as an Exec Producer/Screenwriter but not the Director.

Disney is going to find it harder and harder to find talented Directors to take on big franchise movies if it doesn't figure out a better way to deal with Twitter/Social Media.
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Considering how Rocket, Nebula, and Kraglin are the only Guardians left alive by the end of IW, I think the press tour will only be awkward for Cooper and Gillan; I highly doubt that Sean Gunn is going to be a part of the press tour. Cooper is probably already going to have to face questions on the tour for A Star is Born.

Will the other Guardians be in Avengers 4? Probably, but in much smaller roles. If Rooker shows up as Yondu, it will probably be in one of the flashbacks we’re expecting to happen (based on set photos). Ditto with the rest of the ‘currently ashed’ Guardians.
 
Pixieish

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I also got the impression that Pratt, while he wanted to support Gunn, was initially highly against doing anything that would put Disney on the spot and I was really surprised by the group letter. I could be reading him totally wrong though.
 
asianway

asianway

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threvester said:
I keep reading people using "mob " when talking about the Gunn firing, yet I didnt get that impression at all. I havent heard of any mob calling for his firing, in fact its been a mob calling for his re-hire (which I fully support)
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If anyone believes Disney will cave to a mob mentality on a firing or rehiring decision, they are deluded.
 
asianway

asianway

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Rodan75 said:
The one thing that letter does do, is poison the media tour for Guardians 3. If Disney doesn't rehire Gunn, the media tour will be 100% about Gunn, you won't be able to block those questions. The easiest answer is probably simply, don't do GoTGv3 without Gunn. But...The Avengers 4 press tour will also become all about Gunn because of this letter since the movie features the Guardians.

The cast doesn't seem like they should have a lot of power, but they have really boxed Disney in. They can't just fire and walk away now, I think the Ringer article is good at expressing that.

My gut says there will be some form of compromise position that gets announced. Gunn will be able to come back, but new Twitter/Facebook rules will go into effect for Disney creators or he will come back as an Exec Producer/Screenwriter but not the Director.

Disney is going to find it harder and harder to find talented Directors to take on big franchise movies if it doesn't figure out a better way to deal with Twitter/Social Media.
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Fire all of them, and pay whatever is needed to start a FF series.
 

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