A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

[asianway]

The one thing that letter does do, is poison the media tour for Guardians 3. If Disney doesn't rehire Gunn, the media tour will be 100% about Gunn, you won't be able to block those questions. The easiest answer is probably simply, don't do GoTGv3 without Gunn. But...The Avengers 4 press tour will also become all about Gunn because of this letter since the movie features the Guardians.

The cast doesn't seem like they should have a lot of power, but they have really boxed Disney in. They can't just fire and walk away now, I think the Ringer article is good at expressing that.

My gut says there will be some form of compromise position that gets announced. Gunn will be able to come back, but new Twitter/Facebook rules will go into effect for Disney creators or he will come back as an Exec Producer/Screenwriter but not the Director.

Disney is going to find it harder and harder to find talented Directors to take on big franchise movies if it doesn't figure out a better way to deal with Twitter/Social Media.

Fire all of them, and pay whatever is needed to start a FF series.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

If anyone believes Disney will cave to a mob mentality on a firing or rehiring decision, they are deluded.

They did a week and a half ago.

 

[Pixieish]

They did a week and a half ago.

Same with when they fired Roseanne. They really don't care what any individual says...all they care about is the fallout.

 

[asianway]

They did a week and a half ago.

Right, they potentially limited the profit of one of their tentpoles because of Cernovich and some twitter goons. Got it.

 

[Pixieish]

This is new, but it specifically mentions the "creative differences" we've all been wondering about. Forward to the ~12 minute-mark.

http://collider.com/disney-james-gunn-guardians-of-the-galaxy-movie-talk/

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Right, they potentially limited the profit of one of their tentpoles because of Cernovich and some twitter goons. Got it.

They negotiated with terrorists and established a precedent.

Look how appeasement worked out for the NFL.

 

[asianway]

They negotiated with terrorists and established a precedent.

Look how appeasement worked out for the NFL.

The only one negotiating here is you. Bob (I’m upping my bid $20Billion) Iger isn’t caving to anyone

 

[the.dreamfinder]

The only one negotiating here is you. Bob (I’m upping my bid $20Billion) Iger isn’t caving to anyone

Exactly what am I negotiating here?

 

[Dunston]

I really hope one of these expensive live action remakes flops terribly hard, and Disney has to reevaluate its strategy of recycling IP and stories with these boring remakes/reboots/soft reboots. Iger is not a creative man, and shouldn't be the head of a creative company.

Honestly, any entertainment executive who allows a frigging Star Wars movie to lose money should be called into question, but like I said, he is not a creative executive.

 

[threvester]

If anyone believes Disney will cave to a mob mentality on a firing or rehiring decision, they are deluded.

They wont cave on a parking fee decision either!

 

[Pixieish]

I really hope one of these expensive live action remakes flops terribly hard, and Disney has to reevaluate its strategy of recycling IP and stories with these boring remakes/reboots/soft reboots. Iger is not a creative man, and shouldn't be the head of a creative company.

Honestly, any entertainment executive who allows a frigging Star Wars movie to lose money should be called into question, but like I said, he is not a creative executive.

Personally, I'd like to see them go back to a team of creative/business minds. (Hey...I can dream.)

 

[Dunston]

Personally, I'd like to see them go back to a team of creative/business minds. (Hey...I can dream.)

*Monkey's paw finger curls inward*

 

[Pixieish]

*Monkey's paw finger curls inward*
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A BETTER creative/business minds team, lol.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Personally, I'd like to see them go back to a team of creative/business minds. (Hey...I can dream.)

Or just a focused team of individuals of diverse backgrounds with shared values and ideals taking a long term perspective.

It says a lot about Apple’s respect for what they do that they have chosen not to buy a media company.

And it also says a lot about Bob that he’d spend $70 billion when he could expand adult oriented film/show production and buy out their partners in Hulu.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

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I feel like we haven’t learned the lessons from the Eisner years. He benefitted so much from the leadership he inherited from Walt/Roy/Card/Donn/Ron. Things went off the rails when all those folks were pushed aside and he went for ABC.

 

[Pixieish]

Or just a focused team of individuals of diverse backgrounds with shared values and ideals taking a long term perspective.

It says a lot about Apple’s respect for what they do that they have chosen not to buy a media company.

And it also says a lot about Bob that he’d spend $70 billion when he could expand adult oriented film/show production and buy out their partners in Hulu.

Ideally, that team would all share a love of all things Disney that so many feel the recent leaders have been lacking.

 

[Dunston]

Ideally, that team would all share a love of all things Disney that so many feel the recent leaders have been lacking.

They quickly began to love how profitable people with a love of all things Disney are when Beauty and The Beast remake was one of the highest-grossing films of all time.

"We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. To make money is our only objective." -Micheal Eisner

I never forget that quote, because it it the most honest statement I've ever seen from a Hollywood person.

 

[Pixieish]

They quickly began to love how profitable people with a love of all things Disney are when Beauty and The Beast remake was one of the highest-grossing films of all time.

"We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. To make money is our only objective." -Micheal Eisner

I never forget that quote, because it it the most honest statement I've ever seen from a Hollywood person.

It may be honest, but it's also pretty awful. Especially when they try to hide behind the "Disney image" when one of their most profitable directors comes under cyber attack. I realize Eisner isn't at the helm any longer, but there are TONS of people out there who would cringe to hear that statement was made by someone who was a high-ranking executive at Disney and wouldn't care who is in charge.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

They quickly began to love how profitable people with a love of all things Disney are when Beauty and The Beast remake was one of the highest-grossing films of all time.

"We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. To make money is our only objective." -Micheal Eisner

I never forget that quote, because it it the most honest statement I've ever seen from a Hollywood person.

And it’s antithetical to how Disney should be run.

I’d encourage folks to talk time off from MAGIC and read books like Bob Thomas’ “ Walt Disney: An American Original” to get a real sense for how Walt and Roy ran things.
They were incredibly cunning businessmen, and Walt was one as much as he was an artist, but there is a profound belief of continuous improvement and long term thinking at the core of their operation that let them do things no other peer company could.

 

[Dunston]

Oh I'm not saying I agree with that statement. But that statement is how every Hollywood executive's mind works whether we like it or not.