A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

TeriofTerror

Well-Known Member
(Still attempting to derail the Star Wars argument.)
Hey, look! Today I made Gaston's Cinnamon Rolls. :)
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AEfx

Well-Known Member
I would think disney would be re-evaluating this. I know I'll get "it only made $1.3 billion" tone...but it's hard to legitimately argue that ep 8 exceeded expectation...I think met on the lower end is pretty accurate.

Yeah, no one will consider its theatrical run a "failure" by any stretch, but it certainly didn't exceed expectations. It needed to make 800M to break even, and Disney was reportedly expecting at least 1.6B.

Now, that's just the theatrical, though. The more reports that come in are that the TLJ merchandise is doing much, much worse than expected. Doing less than Rogue One, which featured almost exclusively all new character merchandise without the "nostalgia" factor. As is increasingly becoming the reality, kids are just not into toys much anymore, and the adult collectors are apparently not making up for it this time. They aren't interested in Finn and Poe variants, or new characters like Rose. That's why you are going to be seeing a lot more Original Trilogy merchandise coming back to the shelves - it is what sells.
 

brb1006

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Synopsis for Disney's Christopher Robin has finally come out.

In the heartwarming live action adventure “Disney’s Christopher Robin,” the young boy who embarked on countless adventures in the Hundred Acre Wood with his band of spirited and lovable stuffed animals, has grown up and lost his way. Now it is up to his childhood friends to venture into our world and help Christopher Robin remember the loving and playful boy who is still inside.
Christopher Robin is stuck in a job where he is overworked, underpaid and facing an uncertain future. He has a family of his own, but his work has become his life, leaving little time for his wife and daughter, and he has all but forgotten his idyllic childhood spent with a simple-minded, honey-loving stuffed bear and his friends. But when he is reunited with Winnie the Pooh, now tattered and soiled from years of hugs and play, a spark is rekindled, and he is reminded of the endless days of childlike wonder and make believe that defined his youth, when doing nothing could be considered something. Following an unfortunate mishap with Christopher Robin’s briefcase, Pooh and the rest of the gang including Piglet, Eeyore and Tigger, step out of the forest and into London to return the crucial possessions…because best friends will always be there for you.
“Disney’s Christopher Robin” is directed by Golden Globe® nominee Marc Forster (“Finding Neverland”) and written by Oscar® winner Tom McCarthy (“Spotlight”), Alex Ross Perry (“Golden Exits”) and Oscar nominee Allison Schroeder (“Hidden Figures”) based on characters created by A.A. Milne. The producers are Brigham Taylor (“The Jungle Book”) and Kristin Burr (“Ice Princess”) with Reneé Wolfe and Jeremy Johns serving as executive producers. The film stars multiple Golden Globe and Emmy® nominee Ewan McGregor (“Fargo”) as Christopher Robin; Golden Globe nominee Hayley Atwell (“Agent Carter”) as his wife Evelyn; Bronte Carmichael as his daughter Madeline; and Emmy winner Mark Gatiss (“Sherlock”) as Keith Winslow, Robin’s boss. The film also features the voices of: Jim Cummings (“Winnie the Pooh”) as Winnie the Pooh; Chris O’Dowd (“Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children”) as Tigger; three-time Emmy® winner Brad Garrett (“Everybody Loves Raymond”) as Eeyore; Toby Jones (“Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets”) as Owl; Nick Mohammed (“The Martian”) as Piglet; Peter Capaldi (“Dr. Who”) as Rabbit; and Oscar® nominee Sophie Okonedo (“The Secret Life of Bees”) as Kanga.
 

WDWTank

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Synopsis for Disney's Christopher Robin has finally come out.

In the heartwarming live action adventure “Disney’s Christopher Robin,” the young boy who embarked on countless adventures in the Hundred Acre Wood with his band of spirited and lovable stuffed animals, has grown up and lost his way. Now it is up to his childhood friends to venture into our world and help Christopher Robin remember the loving and playful boy who is still inside.
Christopher Robin is stuck in a job where he is overworked, underpaid and facing an uncertain future. He has a family of his own, but his work has become his life, leaving little time for his wife and daughter, and he has all but forgotten his idyllic childhood spent with a simple-minded, honey-loving stuffed bear and his friends. But when he is reunited with Winnie the Pooh, now tattered and soiled from years of hugs and play, a spark is rekindled, and he is reminded of the endless days of childlike wonder and make believe that defined his youth, when doing nothing could be considered something. Following an unfortunate mishap with Christopher Robin’s briefcase, Pooh and the rest of the gang including Piglet, Eeyore and Tigger, step out of the forest and into London to return the crucial possessions…because best friends will always be there for you.
“Disney’s Christopher Robin” is directed by Golden Globe® nominee Marc Forster (“Finding Neverland”) and written by Oscar® winner Tom McCarthy (“Spotlight”), Alex Ross Perry (“Golden Exits”) and Oscar nominee Allison Schroeder (“Hidden Figures”) based on characters created by A.A. Milne. The producers are Brigham Taylor (“The Jungle Book”) and Kristin Burr (“Ice Princess”) with Reneé Wolfe and Jeremy Johns serving as executive producers. The film stars multiple Golden Globe and Emmy® nominee Ewan McGregor (“Fargo”) as Christopher Robin; Golden Globe nominee Hayley Atwell (“Agent Carter”) as his wife Evelyn; Bronte Carmichael as his daughter Madeline; and Emmy winner Mark Gatiss (“Sherlock”) as Keith Winslow, Robin’s boss. The film also features the voices of: Jim Cummings (“Winnie the Pooh”) as Winnie the Pooh; Chris O’Dowd (“Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children”) as Tigger; three-time Emmy® winner Brad Garrett (“Everybody Loves Raymond”) as Eeyore; Toby Jones (“Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets”) as Owl; Nick Mohammed (“The Martian”) as Piglet; Peter Capaldi (“Dr. Who”) as Rabbit; and Oscar® nominee Sophie Okonedo (“The Secret Life of Bees”) as Kanga.


I’m sorry, but the premise for this movie sucks!
I hope it’s the final nail in the coffin for Disney’s live-Action remakes, an absurd idea from the beginning...
 

PizzaPlanet

Well-Known Member
Synopsis for Disney's Christopher Robin has finally come out.

In the heartwarming live action adventure “Disney’s Christopher Robin,” the young boy who embarked on countless adventures in the Hundred Acre Wood with his band of spirited and lovable stuffed animals, has grown up and lost his way. Now it is up to his childhood friends to venture into our world and help Christopher Robin remember the loving and playful boy who is still inside.
Christopher Robin is stuck in a job where he is overworked, underpaid and facing an uncertain future. He has a family of his own, but his work has become his life, leaving little time for his wife and daughter, and he has all but forgotten his idyllic childhood spent with a simple-minded, honey-loving stuffed bear and his friends. But when he is reunited with Winnie the Pooh, now tattered and soiled from years of hugs and play, a spark is rekindled, and he is reminded of the endless days of childlike wonder and make believe that defined his youth, when doing nothing could be considered something. Following an unfortunate mishap with Christopher Robin’s briefcase, Pooh and the rest of the gang including Piglet, Eeyore and Tigger, step out of the forest and into London to return the crucial possessions…because best friends will always be there for you.
“Disney’s Christopher Robin” is directed by Golden Globe® nominee Marc Forster (“Finding Neverland”) and written by Oscar® winner Tom McCarthy (“Spotlight”), Alex Ross Perry (“Golden Exits”) and Oscar nominee Allison Schroeder (“Hidden Figures”) based on characters created by A.A. Milne. The producers are Brigham Taylor (“The Jungle Book”) and Kristin Burr (“Ice Princess”) with Reneé Wolfe and Jeremy Johns serving as executive producers. The film stars multiple Golden Globe and Emmy® nominee Ewan McGregor (“Fargo”) as Christopher Robin; Golden Globe nominee Hayley Atwell (“Agent Carter”) as his wife Evelyn; Bronte Carmichael as his daughter Madeline; and Emmy winner Mark Gatiss (“Sherlock”) as Keith Winslow, Robin’s boss. The film also features the voices of: Jim Cummings (“Winnie the Pooh”) as Winnie the Pooh; Chris O’Dowd (“Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children”) as Tigger; three-time Emmy® winner Brad Garrett (“Everybody Loves Raymond”) as Eeyore; Toby Jones (“Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets”) as Owl; Nick Mohammed (“The Martian”) as Piglet; Peter Capaldi (“Dr. Who”) as Rabbit; and Oscar® nominee Sophie Okonedo (“The Secret Life of Bees”) as Kanga.
This is so crazy that it might just work. Reading this made me realize how long its been since we've seen something Winnie the Pooh related. They used to milk that franchise like they're currently doing with Frozen.
 

ChrisFL

Premium Member
Synopsis for Disney's Christopher Robin has finally come out.

In the heartwarming live action adventure “Disney’s Christopher Robin,” the young boy who embarked on countless adventures in the Hundred Acre Wood with his band of spirited and lovable stuffed animals, has grown up and lost his way. Now it is up to his childhood friends to venture into our world and help Christopher Robin remember the loving and playful boy who is still inside.
Christopher Robin is stuck in a job where he is overworked, underpaid and facing an uncertain future. He has a family of his own, but his work has become his life, leaving little time for his wife and daughter, and he has all but forgotten his idyllic childhood spent with a simple-minded, honey-loving stuffed bear and his friends. But when he is reunited with Winnie the Pooh, now tattered and soiled from years of hugs and play, a spark is rekindled, and he is reminded of the endless days of childlike wonder and make believe that defined his youth, when doing nothing could be considered something. Following an unfortunate mishap with Christopher Robin’s briefcase, Pooh and the rest of the gang including Piglet, Eeyore and Tigger, step out of the forest and into London to return the crucial possessions…because best friends will always be there for you.

This sounds just like the movie "Hook"
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I’m sorry, but the premise for this movie sucks!
I hope it’s the final nail in the coffin for Disney’s live-Action remakes, an absurd idea from the beginning...

Cinderella: $543 million
Maleficent: $758.5 million
Jungle Book: $967 million.
Alice in Wonderland $1,026 million.
Beauty and the Beast: $1,264 million.

The final nail in what?

There are several more live action adaptations on the way. I'm sorry that you're being forced against your will to watch them.
 

matt9112

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Nintendo signed the deal with Universal during a time when they were struggling. This is also when they began licensing/developing games for mobile. They like to keep things in-house, and only back down when there's lots of pressure from short-sighted investors. For a good three years, people were criticizing them for not going third party. Now they have the fastest-selling console in gaming history.

I don't think they would sign that deal today.

I do think Reggie Fils-Aime is a BEAST!

fastest selling is like saying McDonald's sells the most burgers....ok but what about that quality?
#PCMASTERRACE
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
The MAIN plot point of TFA was finding Luke. To say that they have abandoned or killed plot points is a bit silly considering Luke was found and was a major part of TLJ. Rey and Snokes backgrounds were not plot points in TFA. Not saying that t was you are specifically referring to, but people are loosing their minds because Johnson didnt give them what they wanted. The fact that Rey and Snokes history was not addressed in TLJ does not mean we wont get more info down the road.

I just want to know why two movies wasted captain phasma.....legit my fav character and entire movies could exsist without her.

I think the criticism is valid however. your correct it may not be the plot people wanted but it does seem incoherent. there was obvious undertones of the grey side of the force that Lucas lately wants to push so hard. (from his lips said only light and dark will ever exsist) but there were moments cut from the film or left out that left huge plot holes in both films. the final film will have to be really long to address all of those questions.

there were huge portions of the movie that served zero purpose in the grand scheme. IMHO. I do want to see more of DJ though but maybe like phasma they will just toss him in to suck of screen time barley and we won't ever get to know him.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I just want to know why two movies wasted captain phasma.....legit my fav character and entire movies could exsist without her.

I think the criticism is valid however. your correct it may not be the plot people wanted but it does seem incoherent. there was obvious undertones of the grey side of the force that Lucas lately wants to push so hard. (from his lips said only light and dark will ever exsist) but there were moments cut from the film or left out that left huge plot holes in both films. the final film will have to be really long to address all of those questions.

there were huge portions of the movie that served zero purpose in the grand scheme. IMHO. I do want to see more of DJ though but maybe like phasma they will just toss him in to suck of screen time barley and we won't ever get to know him.

One of my main problems with defending this developing dumpster fire is that when people say "it will be addressed later..."

Ummm...when? You've burned 2/3 of your run time and Set up other dead ends that have to be now "addressed"...

This plot line/characters doesn't carry 2 movies...let alone more. How awful will Star Wars be if they try to make 6 of These?...it will be diluted to the point that it won't be recognized as such anymore. Just more box office filler.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
I just want to know why two movies wasted captain phasma.....legit my fav character and entire movies could exsist without her.

I think the criticism is valid however. your correct it may not be the plot people wanted but it does seem incoherent. there was obvious undertones of the grey side of the force that Lucas lately wants to push so hard. (from his lips said only light and dark will ever exsist) but there were moments cut from the film or left out that left huge plot holes in both films. the final film will have to be really long to address all of those questions.

there were huge portions of the movie that served zero purpose in the grand scheme. IMHO. I do want to see more of DJ though but maybe like phasma they will just toss him in to suck of screen time barley and we won't ever get to know him.
I agree about Phasma. The only thing I could think of is that they were trying to emulate a Boba Fett type character in the sense of how Fett became somewhat of a cult/iconic character. He never had a lot of screen time but became insanely popular. The only problem is that Fett became popular in an organic fashion. They cant intentionally create that same type of magic by simply applying the same pattern.

And yes, lots of "wasted" time in the movie that served no purpose other than (IMO) to push some form of social awareness agenda.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I agree about Phasma. The only thing I could think of is that they were trying to emulate a Boba Fett type character in the sense of how Fett became somewhat of a cult/iconic character. He never had a lot of screen time but became insanely popular. The only problem is that Fett became popular in an organic fashion. They cant intentionally create that same type of magic by simply applying the same pattern.

And yes, lots of "wasted" time in the movie that served no purpose other than (IMO) to push some form of social awareness agenda.

Fett looks like Hannibal Lecter in importance compared to plasma. 100% useless and a foil for the 101% useless Finn
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
One of my main problems with defending this developing dumpster fire is that when people say "it will be addressed later..."

Ummm...when? You've burned 2/3 of your run time and Set up other dead ends that have to be now "addressed"...

This plot line/characters doesn't carry 2 movies...let alone more. How awful will Star Wars be if they try to make 6 of These?...it will be diluted to the point that it won't be recognized as such anymore. Just more box office filler.
I dont think it will be too difficult to tie everything together. A few lines of dialogue and a short story with some quick cutaways for a visual should work. The big one for me is the scene with the Knights of Ren that we have seen each movie with them standing in the rain after an obvious battle. And what is Kylo holding in his left hand (if anything)?

I dont think they are planning on dragging it out to six movies with this specific plot, but I do think they have a plan to continue making them and continue to tie things together. The Obi Wan trailer gave me goosebumps.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Fett looks like Hannibal Lecter in importance compared to plasma. 100% useless and a foil for the 101% useless Finn
Finn really does not add to the story in any way for me. He is just a normal guy with not much experience in anything. Han Solo was a normal guy with no special powers but at least had a cool background of smuggler/bandit and had Chewie and the Falcon. Finn is like Sheia LAbouff in Transformers, he just screams a lot.
 

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
For me, the development of the new characters from the TFA to TLJ has either been bad or non-existent. With the exception of Kylo Ren who I do actually think is an interesting character.

I like some of the new characters; I just don't care about them. Finn is probably my favourite of them but he really served no purpose in TLJ, other than to be a foil for Rose, who I think is arguably the most pointless character in the series. I liked Rey in TFA but I thought Daisy Ridley's performance in TFA was terrible and I'm just not invested in whatever direction they're taking her storyline. Lucasfilm tried to go down the Han Solo route with Poe Dameron in TFA and it failed miserably IMO, not least because the character is just dull in comparison to Han Solo but he also ends up causing most of the Resistance to be wiped out through some ridiculously ill-thought subplot on the part of Rian Johnson; I ended up kind of hoping that Poe would die, mainly because his contributions in TLJ only serve to do more harm to the Resistance than good. Gwendoline Christie did her very best to talk up Phasma's role during promotion for the film but she was wasted and little more than an afterthought, and Hux had some decent moments but his effectiveness as a villain was diluted by Johnson electing to use him as a stupid comic foil ("I'll hold for General Hugs"). The less said about Benicio del Toro and Laura Dern's characters, the better as far as I was concerned.

I ended up more bothered by what happened to Admiral Ackbar than I was any of the new characters.
 

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