A message to Disney Security RE:Boston Incident today

[wdwfan22]

You will never get me to believe that there security team is anything more than show. They do have security dressed as tourist however they still aren't trained to do anything. Over the years I've seen people steal fight each other several times with no interference and drug use in all the parks. A few of the fights I've seen we're only interupted after they called for the Orange County police. Guests like to believe that they have this wonderful security force that is hidden from the world but if after working for them and visiting all the time I can tell you things that have happened that would scare the heck out of you lol

 

[Polydweller]

Precisely.. The illusion at the front gates is the problem, not security in it's entirety. Before the bag check at MK, the front plaza area actually had a logical 'flow' to it... now it's just a bottleneck of messes.

That's exactly why it's there, to slow things down. That means it takes longer to enter the park and people can be scanned more thoroughly by the behind the scenes security. I worked in security in an early part if my working history and theatre is part of it. It sends a message that you are being scrutinized, it does catch some things (they do find weapons there), and it lets people's behavior be seen by the unnoticed security. And having done it I can spot sone of the unseen stuff as I enter any park (I'm sure not all) and there's a lot more than you might think, which is also as it should be so it doesn't impact the typical guest.

So don't assume that it's useless theatre. It's clearly layered security which is how the best is done and non-obtrusive so it's hard for someone who hasn't done security to spot and thus avoid. The bag check is just the most obvious part.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Once they get past the bag check, the amateur might be tempted to drop their guard... Thinking, "whew, through! that was easy."

It really is all layers, and most of it you'll never be aware of. As it should be.

 

[lazyboy97o]

A terrorist is someone who commits an act designed to create terror. Experienced or not, part of a group or not. It's not like there's a "certification" program.

Unfortunately it seems as though the use of the word "terrorist" has come to be more tied to religion and ethnicity than actions.

No, but if I run amok in my neighborhood and stab a few people, are the citizens in my area not terrified? I think that "terrorists" is a word that is used too much these days. Much like "assault rifles" is used to talk about those big mean guns that the media shows you.

What typically distinguishes terrorism is motivation regarding outcome.

 

[bethymouse]

I have always trusted Disney. I hope I still can. It's scary everywhere now. Unfortunately there's no real safe place except perhaps your own home and that is sad! I refuse to stay home! God has a plan for me and I believe when it's my time then that's that! God bless the USA!

 

[Darth Tater]

Back in August I took a short 3-day trip to WDW. On the last day, after checking-out of my hotel, I decided to go explore the new Art of Animation resort. Given the fact that it was August in Central Fla...I decided to keep my laptop with me in my backpack while touring the property. (If extreme heat can melt a DVD/VHS left in a hot car...no telling what it could do to a laptop). Anyhow, I toured the entire property while wearing my backpack. Was never stopped; never questioned. I walked all over the place taking pictures/videos of the new resort.
After what happened yesterday in Boston...that is something I will never do again. But what scares me the most, is the fact I did it with no problem or questions asked.

I know Disney does a great job with security at park gates, etc. But some public areas such as DTD, Boardwalk, even CityWalk at Uni where any average Joe can walk on in toting bags...something I never really thought twice about until yesterday's horrific event in Boston.

My heart goes out to everyone involved with yesterday's tragedy.

 

[Uncle Remus]

We all know if a terrorist came into the Magic Kingdom with bad intentions the second he stepped foot on Main Street he'd be overcome with an unexplainable joy and happiness. He'd stop and get his picture taken in front of the castle, sing along to pirates and by the end of the day he'd be tearing up at Wishes wearing his Mickey ears and gnawing on a turkey leg. No one is immune!

 

[lazyboy97o]

Back in August I took a short 3-day trip to WDW. On the last day, after checking-out of my hotel, I decided to go explore the new Art of Animation resort. Given the fact that it was August in Central Fla...I decided to keep my laptop with me in my backpack while touring the property. (If extreme heat can melt a DVD/VHS left in a hot car...no telling what it could do to a laptop). Anyhow, I toured the entire property while wearing my backpack. Was never stopped; never questioned. I walked all over the place taking pictures/videos of the new resort.
After what happened yesterday in Boston...that is something I will never do again. But what scares me the most, is the fact I did it with no problem or questions asked.

I know Disney does a great job with security at park gates, etc. But some public areas such as DTD, Boardwalk, even CityWalk at Uni where any average Joe can walk on in toting bags...something I never really thought twice about until yesterday's horrific event in Boston.

My heart goes out to everyone involved with yesterday's tragedy.

And what would you want to have done? Have everybody get constantly searched? Only allow clear/mesh bags? Letting acts like this alter our lives lets terrorists win. This event is shocking and horrific but it is not normal and we shouldn't live in constant fear.

 

[ddbowdoin]

no offense... disney security isn't all that tight.

oh this bottle, yes officer... it's water.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

I was thinking about that yesterday as well. Hopefully nothing happens to ANY park. Whether it'd be Disney's or Universal's.
May we all pray for those who lost their lives and were injured in yesterdays Boston Marathon.
If we keep allowing terrorist's into this country, this will continue, unfortunately...

Not to stir the pot but I have to point out that as far as I can tell there's no indication that this terrorist is not a born and bred American.

 

[englanddg]

Not to stir the pot but I have to point out that as far as I can tell there's no indication that this terrorist is not a born and bred American.

That doesn't mean they can't be a terrorist.

Stir away...

 

[Hakunamatata]

Not to stir the pot but I have to point out that as far as I can tell there's no indication that this terrorist is not a born and bred American.

I hate having to think through double negatives.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

I hate having to think through double negatives.

OK hows this - To stir the pot there's indication this terrorist is a born and bred American Not entirely accurate but I think it got rid of the double...errr...triple negatives

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

That doesn't mean they can't be a terrorist.

Stir away...

Exactly my point. An American can (and has) committed terrorist acts in their own country and who's to say that didn't happen in Boston.

 

[Hakunamatata]

OK hows this - To stir the pot there's indication this terrorist is a born and bred American Not entirely accurate but I think it got rid of the double...errr...triple negatives

Thanks for restating. Lol.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Exactly my point. An American can (and has) committed terrorist acts in their own country and whose to say that didn't happen in Boston.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit given the divisive nature of our current leadership.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

I have a Disney Security story that you may find entertaining. When I worked there at the Cdn Pavilion I saw a shoplifter. I called security and a plain clothes officer followed him to the UK pavilion. He caught the guy stealing again and the guy kept yelling that he bought the stuff he was carrying from Canada. The security officer brought him back to me and asked if he bought the stuff and I, of course said no.

Then the shoplifter said that he was Canadian and the "cop" had no authority to deport him from Canadian soil and that he would live here if he had to. When the officer explained that he was not on Canadian soil the guy then declared himself to be the country of "Dave" and that Disney laws were not recognized in his country.

It was quite amusing to watch

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

no offense... disney security isn't all that tight.

oh this bottle, yes officer... it's water.

Yes It's vodker...err...wata...oh dammit just let me on the Teacups!

 

[Nemo14]

I have a Disney Security story that you may find entertaining. When I worked there at the Cdn Pavilion I saw a shoplifter. I called security and a plain clothes officer followed him to the UK pavilion. He caught the guy stealing again and the guy kept yelling that he bought the stuff he was carrying from Canada. The security officer brought him back to me and asked if he bought the stuff and I, of course said no.

Then the shoplifter said that he was Canadian and the "cop" had no authority to deport him from Canadian soil and that he would live here if he had to. When the officer explained that he was not on Canadian soil the guy then declared himself to be the country of "Dave" and that Disney laws were not recognized in his country.

It was quite amusing to watch

Hmmm - was he carrying a big camera?

 

[englanddg]

I have a Disney Security story that you may find entertaining. When I worked there at the Cdn Pavilion I saw a shoplifter. I called security and a plain clothes officer followed him to the UK pavilion. He caught the guy stealing again and the guy kept yelling that he bought the stuff he was carrying from Canada. The security officer brought him back to me and asked if he bought the stuff and I, of course said no.

Then the shoplifter said that he was Canadian and the "cop" had no authority to deport him from Canadian soil and that he would live here if he had to. When the officer explained that he was not on Canadian soil the guy then declared himself to be the country of "Dave" and that Disney laws were not recognized in his country.

It was quite amusing to watch

Oh man, if only this had happened in the days of cel phones and youtube!

The Canada Pavilion should sell limited edition t-shirts that say "I'm a citizen of Dave" on them!