A Few More Details About The Laugh Floor

[dxwwf3]

Just because I don't like SGE doesn't give me the right to be self-centered and think it should be removed. Same goes for everyone. WDI has to look at things with macro-vision and not the micro-vision that you appear to want.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

But what about those non-fan guests that complained about AE and ultimately got it removed after only 8 years?

Their complaints got things done. So why should we refrain from complaining at the parks because we are "fans"?

I didn't care that much for AE... others think it's one of the most creative attractions built in MK.

I'll go ahead and be nice and give you the "Understatement of the Day" award

 

[Lewis Carroll]

But why should your opinion of the attractions be taken as the rule or as the reason to "replace the current staff [of writers]"?

Food Rocks was popular with a lot of people and there was close to a mutiny when it was discovered that it was being replaced. Several people feel EE is a lousy attraction that doesn't have enough special effects or show scenes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with liking or not liking any attraction as that is just purely human. We all have different likes and dislikes.

However, saying "hang Nigel's head on my wall" is not contributing anything to the forums in a meaningful manner. Neither is saying "Food Rocks is garbage", or "Dialogue in Stitch's Great Escape, Journey into YOUR imagination, Superstar Limo and tiki room UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT has got to be the worst cringe-inducing dialogue with plots that go beyond childish immature stupidity."

I don't like SGE... others do. I didn't like JII, others did. I didn't care that much for AE... others think it's one of the most creative attractions built in MK. Just because I don't like SGE doesn't give me the right to be self-centered and think it should be removed. Same goes for everyone. WDI has to look at things with macro-vision and not the micro-vision that you appear to want.

You are right its time to look at things with macro vision...and looking at it like that alot of those attractions arent liked at all because they are terrible.

 

[dxwwf3]

I will shut my mouth the day you can prove that attractions like Stith and Superstar Limo, and the current version of Imagination are widely popular attractions with the general public.

I am always one to say you can't judge an attraction's popularity by wait time. Just because there isn't much of a line, doesn't mean an attraction doesn't please the people that see it.

BUT, guest reaction to those attractions seem to be quite low for fans and regular guests as well.

 

[wannab@dis]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

But what about those non-fan guests that complained about AE and ultimately got it removed after only 8 years?

Their complaints got things done. So why should we refrain from complaining at the parks because we are "fans"?



I'll go ahead and be nice and give you the "Understatement of the Day" award

Those complaints were apparently very numerous and went on for a long period of time. I'm sure they will look for changes to SGE if it also receives numerous complaints over a period of time.

I have a feeling there's not as many complaints about attractions as some would think. Most people don't feel it necessary to complain about an attraction since there are so many others they like. A few fans dropping in and saying they don't like the new Tiki Room just doesn't cut it.

If you don't like an attraction, by all means make your voice heard at guest relations. That input would be used, along with internal data, to gauge the popularity of the attraction.

 

[dxwwf3]

Those complaints were apparently very numerous and went on for a long period of time.

That is true.

I'm sure they will look for changes to SGE if it also receives numerous complaints over a period of time.

And that is why I complain about SGE everytime I'm in the MK

I have a feeling there's not as many complaints about attractions as some would think. Most people don't feel it necessary to complain about an attraction since there are so many others they like. A few fans dropping in and saying they don't like the new Tiki Room just doesn't cut it.

You're probably right.

If you don't like an attraction, by all means make your voice heard at guest relations. That input would be used, along with internal data, to gauge the popularity of the attraction.

I agree, but you did just say that complaining about an attraction could be looked at as being "selfish".

 

[GothMickey]

I agree, but you did just say that complaining about an attraction could be looked at as being "selfish".

I don't usually agree with wannabe, but... I think he meant complaining for the sake of getting rid of an attraction YOU don't like, but others do... Kind of like forcing Disney to change the parks to what YOU like not the majority..

Lines are non-existent for Journey.... When I went to WDW last year, Stitch had a waiting time of over 1 hour all day.. the queue was unreal.. Fast pass was done by early morning... To me, that says the public enjoys Stitch and continues to go see it... I do not know how lines are now.. But last year, the ride was a hit.. Everyone came off laughing and saying they wanted more... oh, and they also said they loved the chili dog smell...

 

[dxwwf3]

When I went to WDW last year, Stitch had a waiting time of over 1 hour all day.. the queue was unreal.. Fast pass was done by early morning... To me, that says the public enjoys Stitch and continues to go see it... I do not know how lines are now

The bold portion is pretty obvious. When you went last year, the attraction just opened and was brand new. Now it is a walk on during most of the day. The longest wait I saw during my trip was 10 minutes and FastPass is almost never used :wave:

 

[dxwwf3]

I think he meant complaining for the sake of getting rid of an attraction YOU don't like, but others do... Kind of like forcing Disney to change the parks to what YOU like not the majority..

Gotcha

 

[wannab@dis]

Gotcha

He was correct.

Also, it's one thing to complain to guest services and another going to a forum and posting "such & such is garbage." First timers read this forum and, based on some of the threads around here, could conclude there's nothing good at WDW.

 

[Pongo]

I am always one to say you can't judge an attraction's popularity by wait time. Just because there isn't much of a line, doesn't mean an attraction doesn't please the people that see it.

BUT, guest reaction to those attractions seem to be quite low for fans and regular guests as well.

Just look at the TTA.



Also, on the topic of complaining:

More people are going to complain about an attraction that scares the living daylights out of their kids (like AE) than complain about an attraction that just doesn't please them (like SGE).

Like wannabe said, there are so many other attractions at Disney that people love, the ones they don't care for won't draw a second thought most of the time.

 

[GothMickey]

The bold portion is pretty obvious. When you went last year, the attraction just opened and was brand new. Now it is a walk on during most of the day. The longest wait I saw during my trip was 10 minutes and FastPass is almost never used :wave:

Gothcha... although my trip was in the end of October... and it was not too crowded...

 

[dxwwf3]

Also, it's one thing to complain to guest services and another going to a forum and posting "such & such is garbage." First timers read this forum and, based on some of the threads around here, could conclude there's nothing good at WDW.

Well I see your point there. I might not 100% agree (I think most people on here are fans and know the subject matter), but I see where you are coming from. And I'll go along with that

 

[dxwwf3]

Just look at the TTA

Perfect example. Also PotC (before the film came out) and the Haunted Mansion. If queue time was the only thing Disney went by, those two attractions would be LONG GONE.

 

[mousermerf]

They measure both riders per hour and queue length along with possible capacity.

No one statistic is a full picture.

TTA, HM, and PotC all have high riders per hour with high capacities. They say, how many people went through this ride and how many were waiting at XX time?

Take a lower capacity attraction with a 10 minute wait, and the total nmber of guests ridden and in-queue might equal what pirates "rode" without a queue.

 

[mousermerf]

Also, there are attractions on the other side of the spectrum which are both low capacity AND very popular. Turtle Talk come to mind. At that point it's a measure of how willing people are to wait.

Every minute over like 30 is mega-points on the popularity scale. It used to be higher before Fastpass, as an hour long queue was "expected" at a popular line, but most people find anything over 20 to be long now.

 

[wannab@dis]

Well I see your point there. I might not 100% agree (I think most people on here are fans and know the subject matter), but I see where you are coming from. And I'll go along with that

Most posters maybe... but take a look at the numbers of visitors and you'll see that most are guests. There's a lot of people that do research for their first trips. I know several that have told me about their first trip and when I mentioned this site, they said they had already been reading.

It's not a big deal, but just something to keep in mind. Continually bashing Disney on these types of forums could cause some to change their mind about going. Big numbers... no way. Some... maybe.

 

[dxwwf3]

Continually bashing Disney on these types of forums could cause some to change their mind about going

I think that there are WAY too many positive items on these boards for that to happen. The positives outweigh the negative posts here and they always have and they always will. Otherwise, why would we be here? I also think that THIS is the best place for fans to come and vent about things happening at the resort they aren't pleased with. For whatever reason that may be.

 

[dxwwf3]

Thanks for the descriptions merf.

 

[polarboi]

Also, it's one thing to complain to guest services and another going to a forum and posting "such & such is garbage."

Exactly! :sohappy:

By all means, let Disney know how you feel about things. But there's no need to put other people's views down or constantly harp on the things you don't like on a fan forum. Many of us got tired of it a lonnng time ago.

-p.b.

 

[Ears to you]

Does anyone have a month on opening early 2007 ? we will be there for the first week of the new year early inuff ?