DHS MuppetVision 3-D's Future: Potential Disney Park Venues and Vision Pro Immersive Experience

[Nobody nobody]

I say this as a massive muppetvision fan. I think we all need to stop coping.
As much as it sucks to finally say, muppetivison is 99% not coming back in any physical form. If it was, they would’ve said announced it with the closing date of mv3d and pizzerizzo. They very distinctly say CLOSING multiple times and do not seem to word it with any way of. We are probably going to get a pro shot on Disney+, and maybe VR, and that’s it.

We need to look towards the future. Rnrc is probably gonna happen. Ipersonally think that the muppets could Show up in other places too in the future too. Maybe we will
Eventually get that long rumored muppets HOP replacement! maybe there will be a muppets show replacing villains in the future! But it won’t be muppetvision 3D. Its unfortunately over WaldoBros.

If we want to see the muppets continue at the Disney parks, we need to, as shilly as this sounds, buy the crap out of that muppets
Merch they keep bringing up in the article when rnrc opens. Because as we have seen with figment, that seems to be one of the only ways they genuinely listen to us and
Move towards what we want. We all need to
SHOW them, instead of just saying we want it and then not showing up.

This is just me though.

 

[mattpeto]

If I had the chance to talk to the powers that be (and if anyone of importance at Disney is reading this)...can I propose this as a last ditch effort?

I get that you want to have a Villian's show to give you at least some Villians at the parks until the new land gets built. I get that this will be a money maker for now through merchandise sales..etc. However, once the new Villians land opens - do we need this show anymore?

What if you store all the Muppets stuff so that it can be preserved. And I mean store it well - not like Spectro. Then - when RNR is converted to the Muppets, take out the Villians show. Then you can convert the Villians theater back into the Muppets and add a Muppets spinner ride.

If there is anyone from accounting reading - this is perfect. You get a new attraction that opens in time for Epic, you get to sell merchandise for Villians before the Villians land is ready, and you even get to gauge what may or may not work in Villians land with the show. Then....you can take out the show with lots of performers and put back in a show with only a few performers - thus cost cutting in a future budget. You won't even have to spend as much money - because if you have preserved everything well - the fandom will be happy if you put the show back together the way it was. Thus, making a huge win for the fandom who will be beyond excited to go back to the Muppets theater in droves! And you - as Disney - get a "brand new" mini land that you can advertise and gives you a win with the fans.

Search your feelings, you know them to be true.

I hope I’m wrong but MV3D isn’t coming back.

 

[Nobody nobody]

While looking into muppet movie ride on a sad about muppet vision, I accidentally found a somewhat hidden jackpot: this video. It interviews the concept artist behind all the famous muppet studios art. In it, he shows multiple peices of never before seen concept art, including new movie scenes and a clarified design for a unique omnimover concept. he also does a full description of the scenes, and clarifies the full idea behind the ride, what the story would be like, and how the scene connect. He also has descriptions of other stuff about the proposed land. If you haven’t, PLEASE check this video out.

TLDR from the video: the general story of the ride was that you were on the muppet studios seeing them make movies. You would first see the final product scene on a video screen, Hollywood quality, and then you would pass through the wackiness from the famous concept arts, showing the imperfect chaos of how the “film” was made.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

If I had the chance to talk to the powers that be (and if anyone of importance at Disney is reading this)...can I propose this as a last ditch effort?

I get that you want to have a Villian's show to give you at least some Villians at the parks until the new land gets built. I get that this will be a money maker for now through merchandise sales..etc. However, once the new Villians land opens - do we need this show anymore?

What if you store all the Muppets stuff so that it can be preserved. And I mean store it well - not like Spectro. Then - when RNR is converted to the Muppets, take out the Villians show. Then you can convert the Villians theater back into the Muppets and add a Muppets spinner ride.

If there is anyone from accounting reading - this is perfect. You get a new attraction that opens in time for Epic, you get to sell merchandise for Villians before the Villians land is ready, and you even get to gauge what may or may not work in Villians land with the show. Then....you can take out the show with lots of performers and put back in a show with only a few performers - thus cost cutting in a future budget. You won't even have to spend as much money - because if you have preserved everything well - the fandom will be happy if you put the show back together the way it was. Thus, making a huge win for the fandom who will be beyond excited to go back to the Muppets theater in droves! And you - as Disney - get a "brand new" mini land that you can advertise and gives you a win with the fans.

Unfortunately the Villains show ruins the dream.

But you're right in that it wouldn't be terribly difficult for Disney to execute such a land and "on the cheap" if they deemed it worthwhile. Or with a little more effort a better land, if they really saw the potential. A Muppet's land shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. Adding back MV3D would be an easy win! I guess they could always explore the idea once Villains makes the jump to Magic Kingdom?

And that may well be the plan, though I'd hate to get my hopes up. In theory, We'd probably be looking at 10+ year out plan. Long enough for Villains Show to have a solid run (in its current locale) and with RnRC losing some of it's newness. Hypothetical of course. Now for the unsolicited armchair.*

Spoiler

Muppet Studios
-Muppet Studios arch facade entry into the land.

Muppet Coaster - Headliner E-Ticket.

Muppet Vision 3D: Encore Performance Runtime: 10-12 min. C-Ticket

- LMRA/Villains flex space theatre​

- Retains Sweetums performer​

- Penguin Orchestra donated to Center For Puppetry Arts (a means of preservation)​

- Bean and Statler & Waldorf AAs are now screenz (runtime reduced)​

- Some practical 4D effects are not included in revival show​

Muppet Babies Storytime Adventure B-Ticket

- Turtle Talk-esque experience for toddlers with a format similar to that of a Choose Your Own Adventure book combined with the interactivity and structure of a Dora the Explorer episode. Stories revolve around the Muppet Babies imagining themselves as the characters of well-known Disney movies and books. (for IP synergy) Kermit as Indiana Jones type stuff. Pre-scripted Meet and Greet show. ​

Flatride options: (0ne or both if space allows) B-Ticket

Gonzo the Great Aerobatic Stunt Flyer (Zamperla Air Race)

- Lightly-themed Flat ride. Includes photo-op statue of Gonzo on a biplane​

Electric Mayhem's Road Tripp'n (Zamperla Crazy Bus)

- Lightly-themed Jr Flat Ride. Those are like exhaust fumes, man!​

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Food Trucks and Carnival Games (Animal/Swedish Chef/Sam Eagle/Miss Piggy)

-Themed to resemble Food Services and Movie Star Trailers. Budget solution with "pay-per-play" games​

*Just for musings. Bean-counter, budget conscious by default. Slightly unhinged and cynical but not unrealistic when you consider the likes of PIXAR Pier. The idea being this land would probably only come about if LL sales were on decline and/or Disney needed to prop up the park with something NEW while also catering to the fandom. Don't hate the player hate the game.

 

[Nobody nobody]

If the “great moments in history” project is in development still like LenTesta said a while ago, or if the muppets get any other show-like attraction anywhere at wdw or anywhere else at the parks have a proposal: with the verbiage of “preserve other parts of the experience”, what if Disney hypothetically pulls an “America sings” and re-use whatever animatronics and other stuff they can? (In my mind the Penguin orchestra/statler and Waldorf. Maybe even find a way to work sweetums in!). That’d be cool, and better than nothing

 

[Figments Friend]

 

[Tha Realest]

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Looks like he’s past the bargaining and depression stages and has arrived at acceptance.