Rumor Frontierland Shootin' arcade to close and replaced with DVC Member lounge

[nickys]

We bought into SSR in 2005 at $95/point (we got an $8/point discount, bring it down to $87/point). Current rates are $225-ish per point. I can also say that according to Birnbaum's, in 2005, the Peak rate for a room at AKL was $445/night, and as near as I can figure, a standard view, non-discounted room at AKL this year during a Peak time (week before Christmas, so not holiday pricing) is $780/night. So DVC per point prices have increased roughly 140%, whereas standard cash room prices have increased 75%. DVC rooms haven't gotten bigger, the amenities haven't gotten better than they were in 2005, but the per-point prices have outpaced cash room prices by nearly double. Resale is an entirely different discussion, with the limitations Disney has imposed.

And while I know what you're getting at, you can't compare the price increases related to cars (which are mostly technology-based these days, and comparable technology prices drop over time) with a vacation destination, it's a very apples-to-oranges comparison.

Also, if you want to throw in benefits? You and I know we used to get a discount on APs, whereas there is no discount anymore. Have they moved back to hard kitchen goods in studios or are they still doing the disposable plates, cups, and silverware? (That's actually an honest question, I haven't stayed in a studio in forever)

So if the price of technology has dropped, why are the latest top of the range cars more expensive than they were a decade ago?

But OK, let’s use the price of a holiday as an example, including air fare. Or a house. Or just flights.

Our flights from the UK to Orlando in 2010 were less than £400 pp return. Same flights in 2022 was over £800. In 2010 we got free drinks throughout the flight and two meals. In 2022 it was one meal, a drink with the meal and a snack.

And everyone knows you should never factor in DVC benefits into the decision to buy.

 

[HauntedPirate]

So if the price of technology has dropped, why are the latest top of the range cars more expensive than they were a decade ago?

But OK, let’s use the price of a holiday as an example, including air fare. Or a house. Or just flights.

Our flights from the UK to Orlando in 2010 were less than £400 pp return. Same flights in 2022 was over £800. In 2010 we got free drinks throughout the flight and two meals. In 2022 it was one meal, a drink with the meal and a snack.

And everyone knows you should never factor in DVC benefits into the decision to buy.

Because airlines subscribe to the same customer theories that Bob does - If you can charge them for something, do it. If you can charge them more, even better. I used to work for a major US airline and whilst I wasn’t involved in the business side, we heard enough as IT people to know they were constantly looking for ways to upcharge passengers and reduce offerings to those unwilling to pay. Then Covid hit, and the ensuing inflation and fall out from Covid, and here we are. Airfare that was $250 in 2019 is now $450. Why?

 

[rle4lunch]

Because airlines subscribe to the same customer theories that Bob does - If you can charge them for something, do it. If you can charge them more, even better. I used to work for a major US airline and whilst I wasn’t involved in the business side, we heard enough as IT people to know they were constantly looking for ways to upcharge passengers and reduce offerings to those unwilling to pay. Then Covid hit, and the ensuing inflation and fall out from Covid, and here we are. Airfare that was $250 in 2019 is now $450. Why?

Don't forget about Union workers getting huge pay increases the last few years, even though the work isn't getting any tougher due to automation. You keep increasing wages, prices will continue to go up and up.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Don't forget about Union workers getting huge pay increases the last few years, even though the work isn't getting any tougher due to automation. You keep increasing wages, prices will continue to go up and up.

Not to mention unskilled/entry level workers demanding, and often getting, at least $15/hr as a starting wage.

But anyway... I'm still opposed to the shooting gallery being replaced by a DVC lounge.