DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

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AidenRodriguez731

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Architectural Guinea Pig said:
Eh, I’m pretty sure they’re just spoiling the pig/attraction before slaughter. It’s one way of showing respect to the thousands of fans who rode the attraction by returning it to its former glory
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Still feel like they missed out on doing a "final extinction" mini-party or smth for Dinoland USA. Some merch, rename Dinosaur temporarily to Countdown to Extinction or smth and do a Dr. Seeker M&G or smth
 
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MistaDee

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James Alucobond said:
Also, IIRC, FoP is D, so it’s not like being a D would preclude it from being a major draw for both the land and park.
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Where are you remembering that from? I'm always curious how and when Disney chooses to invoke the ticket system since so much seems blurry.

It's current role and wait times in the park certainly seem to be E ticket status
 
JackCH

JackCH

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MistaDee said:
Where are you remembering that from? I'm always curious how and when Disney chooses to invoke the ticket system since so much seems blurry.

It's current role and wait times in the park certainly seem to be E ticket status
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One of the insiders on this site has said that Disney internally marked it as a D ticket (@marni1971) , but there is spirited debate over what makes a ride a D vs. an E ticket nowadays.

Heck, as LL evolves the old ticket system might be revived lol.
 
Karakasa

Karakasa

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Disgruntled Walt said:
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Eh, I think this is just assuming (or wishful thinking? Unsure of Dan's opinion on Dinosaur) that Disney upper management gets bitten by the lazy/cheap bug again. That being said... for a ride they apparently really want to replace, its closure keeps getting pushed back from what people expected. I swear there was one point where someone said it'd be closed by the end of 2024, and I know for a fact a few insiders here said they heard it'd close around when Dinorama would be closing. Now it's staying open until 2026.

Maybe we do get, to paraphrase Podcast the Ride, "Indiana Jones versus the dinosaurs" after all, lol. Not like they really committed that much to what's in the Indy refresh, and the lore we do have is permissive to making the "legendary creature" turn out to be a living dinosaur or living dinosaur(s), hidden within an underground forest grove beneath a temple. The biggest roadblocks are the Carnotaurus, raptor, and Iguanodon designs, which while not 1:1 to the Dinosaur movie designs are quite similar. I do think it's more likely they go through with the original plan, ditching all dinosaurs completely. But I can see why one might get that feeling, and even how it could be a halfway correct gut check.

dennis-in-ct said:
I would like to mention “tough to be a bug” as this attraction is part of the upcoming planned Animal Kingdom changes (along with Encanto, and Indiana Jones). We visited last week so we could enjoy the Christmas holidays and say goodbye to attractions that are to be revamped.

Tough to be a bug was in bad shape. The effects were not working - no air jets, stinger, bugs exiting the theater under your butt, spiders only partially worked. Extra fog used to cover up the broken effects.

As a fan of the show, I now wish I did not have this as my last experience. Same feeling I had when we rode Splash before it closed. Splash was a shell of its former self. Riding the new Tiana’s was better than I expected. There is a real lack of show scenes but the new figures are impressive. I hope the new Zootopia overlay comes out a winner.
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It feels like only a few select attractions get the real "last sendoff" they deserve, like Dinosaur kind of is, and I think it might depend on in-the-moment fan reaction - do wait times skyrocket after the closure announcement, thus making maintenance meaningful? I don't think people are running to go see ITtbaB like they are Dinosaur, which now sees 45 minute to hour long waits, something it hasn't had in a decade. Splash of course is an exception, given the unique reason it was tapped for closure (it was still popular, but perceived as controversial or potentially controversial).

Question: Does anyone have further examples of this? I swear I remember GMR being better treated during its last stretch than it had been in a while but that might be a false memory. Maybe Dinosaur is unique...

And yeah, I'm in a similar boat. I definitely wish I hadn't gone to see Bug the last time! Some of the stuff you mentioned not working did work for me, but dang, if Flik wasn't a mess. One of his eyes wasn't working at all, stuck half-open, half-closed, and he didn't fully retract into his hole.
 
osian

osian

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Karakasa said:
.. for a ride they apparently really want to replace, its closure keeps getting pushed back from what people expected. I swear there was one point where someone said it'd be closed by the end of 2024, and I know for a fact a few insiders here said they heard it'd close around when Dinorama would be closing. Now it's staying open until 2026.
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Well, I hope it closes soon... (jk)

In November I made a point of marathoning it ten times one afternoon as it would be gone by my next visit, so I've said "goodbye". And due to a quirk of batching on my very last go (due to getting delayed exiting the pre-show room while chatting with a CM) I got a rather special ride. (image doctored because I'm shy).

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Marc Davis Fan

Marc Davis Fan

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celluloid said:
This may be oversimplifying it in some ways and overcomplicating it in others if people don't also take into account fluidity.


20K and Hall of Presidents were once E Tickets.
Demand shifts.

Star Tours was without a doubt an E ticket its opening and just being a Simulator of that caliber was a fresh new concept and industry elevating standard in the late 80s.

20K was certainly not an E Ticket when it was about to close and popularity dwindles down but still being valuable enough to keep around for at times years until a time is right to change if ROI of operating is worthwhile.

Hall of Preidents definitely did not need its extended queue decades later and does not going near 50 years later, it is not an E ticket at all anymore but sitll.

Because by its nature, the ticket system was demand-based. Fluidity.
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That's what I was trying to take into account with my caveat "A unique/novel characteristic might for a time push something to E ticket status whose lack of scale and/or high-quality detail would otherwise relegate it to below E ticket status, e.g., Soarin' (which, as flying theaters become more common, may eventually be relegated to D ticket status)." Other examples of that could have been 20K, HoP, and Star Tours.

That being said, I think you're still right that my listed caveats can't capture it perfectly, because some of the demand shift is surely also based on changing tastes among the public, etc.
 
SpectreJordan

SpectreJordan

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BrianLo said:
I’m surprised given the companies a la carte revenue focus that the five year plan went anemic for DAK. I won’t go so far to say Hollywood studios is getting a strong investment cycle, but it’s already the second place LLMP consideration park due to its heavy headliner burden.

We’re clearly missing a DAK project.
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I can see them thinking Encanto, Indy, Flight, Safari & Everest is a good lineup for it. It's definitely better than the current lineup, which is really just the latter 3 (I love Dino but it always has a short wait time).

Ideally, Disney will expand DAK to help capacity... and sell more LLs, but who knows with them.
 
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Nickm2022

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SpectreJordan said:
I can see them thinking Encanto, Indy, Flight, Safari & Everest is a good lineup for it. It's definitely better than the current lineup, which is really just the latter 3 (I love Dino but it always has a short wait time).

Ideally, Disney will expand DAK to help capacity... and sell more LLs, but who knows with them.
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I agree, however my hope (no evidence just some fun speculation) is I am fine they cancelled an announced AK project so they can give Hollywood something else bigger in the near future atop of Monsters and Muppets Coaster
 

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