mickEblu
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Bingo. The effect is flawed but some people are going through great lengths to prove it’s the design intent. It’s like we don’t have warped Eiffel towers on Soarin.
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Bingo. The effect is flawed but some people are going through great lengths to prove it’s the design intent. It’s like we don’t have warped Eiffel towers on Soarin.
The issue appears to stem from the method of achieving the effect rather than the concept itself. With the angled glass, the reflected image travels a greater distance as it ascends, resulting in loss of detail and distortion by the time it reaches her face/head height. In short: They goofed.
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Castle Cake Apologist
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This seems like such a no-brainer! I mentioned a similar idea just a little earlier, so I think we should team up and send our joint resume to WDI immediately. They need us.
I also really think they should scale back all the extra stuff going on. It’s just too much for the attraction it’s in, way too flashy. The Mansion is a powerhouse showcase of typically very basic magic tricks, and this feels like what it is... a tech demo.
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mickEblu
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And just said “ok it’s good enough.”
That's been Imagineering's motto for a decade+
Castle Cake Apologist
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Also, are there any other examples in the attraction of "elongated neck and face" being used to communicate "this is a ghost"? I can't think of any.
Agent H
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I love this
MerlinTheGoat
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Given that she went on to say that she wants to replace the hangman in the stretching room, but that it was put off for "structural" reasons (whatever that means), I don't know if I buy that.
Someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but I think she was also the lead imagineer on the Snow White's Enchanted Wish overhaul? At the very least she was the one who was used in the tour and promo video for it. It was framed as if she was in charge. They painted the dark gothic brickwork on the facade and queue with Barbie's Dreamhouse pinks and blues. Replaced all the Evil Queen's props in the queue with princess paraphernalia. Made the dark forest after the cottage scene a bright daylight scene. Removed all skeletons from the dungeon and replaced them with chemistry sets (one of these is sort of a nice effect, but the rest are overkill and awkwardly set dressed). Removed the witch in the boat and replaced it with a mirror projection of Snow White. Removed the witch trying to kill the dwarfs and guests with a boulder, and subsequently being struck by lightning. Removed the entirety of the scary forest trees and witch holding the apple in the cottage door, and replaced it all with a bright flowery tunnel and happy ending finale. BTW, if they wanted a happy ending, they could likely have replicated what Paris did and sacrificed nothing, it shares an exact copy of the show building and found the space to add an extra scene right before unload.
That to me introduces the polar inverse extreme and makes her face looks horizontally stretched instead.
Not particularly I think? There are characters with sort of elongated looking faces in the ride, and it does make them look a bit more disturbing IMO. Some of the pop-up ghosts for instance, or the now-removed ghost that used to inhabit the mausoleum. I know this isn't what you meant and doesn't technically count, but several different Marc Davis concept drawings of the bride were also unnaturally lanky and thin. Much moreso than this new one in fact.
There is something about this new bride's lanky and slender proportions that adds to her general mystique and other-worldliness IMO. Again, not scary, but ethereal. Sorry that I can't think of better terms to explain myself at the moment though.
I will bring up a somewhat unrelated example of a similar sort of vibe. The main female spirit at the end of Raiders of the Lost Arc has an almost unnaturally long and slender face that reminds me of this bride. It's a tad unsettling even before it "changes". In fact, if Disney had any balls these days, it would have been kind of cool had they given this bride a similar "transformation" into something much more horrifying as you pass by her. Doesn't have to be as insane as what Raiders did, but something at least mildly disturbing. But again, Disney is unfortunately allergic to potentially upsetting or scaring people...
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Suspirian
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I think there's definitely a bit of uncannyness to the new bride look but I welcome that in the Haunted Mansion. I don't think the hokey look was intended by the imagineers but I don't hate the figure for it? A ghost should look strange. I would imagine if I saw a ghost in "real life" it wouldn't have a perfect neck lol. You can poke holes in many of the illusions in the haunted mansion but I think thats what makes it click as an attraction to most people.
Disney Analyst
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Phroobar
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People can barely handle Stitch with chilli dog breath much less a bride turning into a rotting corpse in front of them. The Disney Mommies would freak out.
I will say this. I don't like this bride nor did I like Constance. I preferred every iteration of her before Constance. But we have to admit that she did not resemble anything from a Marc concept or anything in the graveyard scene. She literally was the creepiest and most frightening thing in the ride and the nightmares my childhood were made of. So Everyone seems to be upset that she now does not resemble the work of Marc Davis or any other character in the ride but has she ever? Since the beginning of time? I do agree she looks way too digital and AI generated and I would say that is my primary reason for disliking this iteration. But not because she doesn't flow with Marc Davis' ideas because she never looked like a Davis idea. Prob more so a Crump idea.
BrianLo
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That was just fixed! (At Epcot at least)
mickEblu
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Oh wow they did? Does anyone know if the fixed at DCA? I ride Soarin maybe once a year.
SpaceMountainUK
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They should have had her face turn black with glowing eyes kind of like the hatbox ghost the face vanishing and a throw back to one of the older brides
Disney Irish
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When I rode last month it wasn't looking as warped as in years past. So I don't know if they "fixed" it like is said to be done in Epcot (wasn't even aware it was done there) or if its just less noticeable now. For reference I was sitting in the front row toward the middle, so that might make a difference.
VicariousCorpse
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No it's not changed at DCA. This is a very recent change from November.
Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
- No
The only way to fix the DCA Soarin' is by bringing back Over California for good.
Professortango1
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Well, yesterday with the rain the new gift shop became the FEMA Disaster Recreation Photo Op with sandbags pulled up alongside the main walkway door.
It was a day where Tiana was down most of the day, Haunted Mansion was down the afternoon through about 10ish. Runaway Railway was down which made me go to Car-Toon Spin, which went down when I was line the queue. Went to Space Mountain, which went down as I entered it. And then got walked off Pooh after Tiana reopened at 11. So...I'm clearly the problem here.
It was a day where Tiana was down most of the day, Haunted Mansion was down the afternoon through about 10ish. Runaway Railway was down which made me go to Car-Toon Spin, which went down when I was line the queue. Went to Space Mountain, which went down as I entered it. And then got walked off Pooh after Tiana reopened at 11. So...I'm clearly the problem here.
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