EPCOT Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

tpoly88

tpoly88

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mergatroid said:
The bit highlighted part I would disagree with as it's not really like Space Mountain is it especially if we're looking at the technology is uses as you clearly are? I mean if we're arguing that then we may as well say that every ride using a screen is essentially the same and that all the roller coasters outside are all the same. We may as well say the still being built Epic Universe is just a park copying IOA and US which it clearly isn't.

Space mountain is in indoor roller coaster in the dark. Space Mountain doesn't go backwards at any point, it doesn't reach the speeds Cosmic Rewind does, it isn't as long as CR is, it doesn't have vehicles that spin like CR does and to the point you're arguing it doesn't use the technology that CR does. If we're arguing something is essentially the same to that degree then we get to the point where we may as well say Jurassic Park us 'essentially the same as Pirates' as they're both boat ride attractions including animatronics.

The technology may have been used before but the award it won which triggered this conversation wasn't in any way related to 'the best ride using unique technology award' so it just seems a bit strange mentioning it. I think when people refer to it as unique it may be because they've personally never been on a ride using that technology before? However it could also be that they mean they've never been on a ride using that technology that also utilises the storyline, the music, the darkness and the screens in that way combined? They're possibly referring to the whole experience rather than dissecting the technological aspect of which screws and engines were used and letting that somehow spoil the experience the ride allowed them to feel.

It's subjective as to whether people enjoy it or not, as is whether it deserved the award or not. It's just whenever we read "It's just a coaster in a box" it usually is an argument that would make 99% of attractions the same and just feels a bit of a lazy way of sating that the person saying it doesn't like the ride.
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i think its a great ride, yes not like space mnt. i missed that part.
 
Rich Brownn

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Poseidon Quest said:
Unique? As in rollercoasters with programmable yaw? Like Harry Potter and the Escape from Gringotts 8 years prior? In a big building with star projections like Space Mountain did a previous 47 years prior?

For good measure, might as well mention its novelty effect, the retracting walls in the pre-show, which was achieved by Poseidon's Fury on a larger scale after its rework in 2001.
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Actually the Presto-Chango room (as Landmark called it) was there since Poseidon opened in 1999. Orginally you walked in with the walls already up . When you were rescued by Zeus (Poseidon was the bad guy in this version) the walls dropped down to give the illusion you were back in the previous room/People had trouble understanding it so in the new version it starts with walls down
 
Casper Gutman

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UNCgolf said:
I don't think people are saying it's no good because it's an indoor coaster, or at least that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it doesn't really elevate beyond just being an indoor coaster -- even if it's a very good one -- and they'd indicated it was going to be something more than that. That doesn't mean it's a bad ride (and it's not a bad ride). I just don't think it's an especially great one and don't think it's even close to being one of the best at WDW.

Your description of Revenge of the Mummy is how I felt about Cosmic Rewind! I think Revenge of the Mummy is a better attraction than CR, even though it's not one of my absolute favorites either.

Of course it's all subjective, though.
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I’d sum it up as CR is a vastly better coaster than Gringotts but Gringotts is a vastly better theme park attraction than CR.

The really glaring failure of the ride in comparison to other, similar attractions is the changing room. As Boca points out, the effect was done spectacularly at a Las Vegas Hilton decades ago. Even with that model, Disney messed up the effect so badly and at such a fundamental level it actually makes one question their competence.
 
Bocabear

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Casper Gutman said:
I’d sum it up as CR is a vastly better coaster than Gringotts but Gringotts is a vastly better theme park attraction than CR.

The really glaring failure of the ride in comparison to other, similar attractions is the changing room. As Boca points out, the effect was done spectacularly at a Las Vegas Hilton decades ago. Even with that model, Disney messed up the effect so badly and at such a fundamental level it actually makes one question their competence.
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True dat! I like the ride... It has a few issues, but in general, I think it is a solid attraction...Just needs some tuning....
 
Rich Brownn

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Bocabear said:
There was a much better version of the flying walls trick used at the Star Trek Experience in Vegas... It really was an amazing effect...Smaller room, and the cast were all fully playing their roles as starship team members....It was really well done... but long long gone now....that opened in 1998.
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Same company (Landmark) but that effect included a ceiling that moved in and out as well. I wish I could have experienced that
 
Casper Gutman

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Rich Brownn said:
Same company (Landmark) but that effect included a ceiling that moved in and out as well. I wish I could have experienced that
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It worked beautifully for a lot of reasons CR missed, perhaps the two biggest being that the initial room created a very convincing illusion of being a simulator loading area and that there was a very substantial difference between the first and second version of the room. It was genuinely great.
 
Bocabear

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Rich Brownn said:
Same company (Landmark) but that effect included a ceiling that moved in and out as well. I wish I could have experienced that
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It was amazing...Even the floor changed under your feet....You were in a small pre-boarding room and Flash and whoosh, you were on the deck of the Enterprise and the cast members were all in motion...It felt so believable... amazing attraction....
 
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Touchdown said:
Anyone know if they are putting the Christmas mode on again? I hope they don’t unless we get a better song.
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It should have been more than a song anyway. It wouldn't theoretically be terribly difficult to overlay a Holiday version seeing as how it's mostly screens and projections. Only the exit tunnel would require festive decor. The biggest caveat would be the costs associated with filming a new preshow and lift sequence videos. On-ride audio could be pulled directly from the The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special. The post show projection could be tweaked to give The Guardians of the Galaxy Santa hats and other holiday garb. As for a song choice, maybe McCartney's "Wonderful Christmastime"?

Speaking of preshow: Does anyone suspect they'll be changing it? There's a rumor going around that Disney isn't happy with the way guests respond to Terry Crews's question of "Does anyone know what they call themselves anyway?" with shouted responses of "Drunks" or "Alcoholics!"

Has that been a rampant issue? I guess if they were to redo it they'd have the opportunity to record a holiday version too.
 
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EricsBiscuit

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I wonder if Disney is going to build this ride at another park. An Aladdin ride with the same ride system in Adventureland would be great but anyways I think Tokyo’s new SM might employ this ride system? Not sure
 
Epcot82Guy

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EricsBiscuit said:
I wonder if Disney is going to build this ride at another park. An Aladdin ride with the same ride system in Adventureland would be great but anyways I think Tokyo’s new SM might employ this ride system? Not sure
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While not confirmed, Tokyo SM is assumed to be the next use case. If true, that will be a really good application of this ride system (and hopefully with a simpler, more effective storyline).
 

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