Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

Bocabear

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Though vailed and obscured by smoke and mirrors (which makes sense after it failed) the Star Cruiser may be in the beginning stages of coming out of mothballs. Looking forward to actual details.
as office space for an expanded accounting division?
DVC Galaxy's Edge accommodations?
 

Fox&Hound

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I find it interesting that so many (myself included) hate the fact that SWL went new trilogy instead of classic but then Universal is building the new HP land at Epic themed to Fantastic Beasts. Won’t this be a location most people do not appreciate or have knowledge of? Or does the Ministry of Magic retcon their idea?
 

Purduevian

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I find it interesting that so many (myself included) hate the fact that SWL went new trilogy instead of classic but then Universal is building the new HP land at Epic themed to Fantastic Beasts. Won’t this be a location most people do not appreciate or have knowledge of? Or does the Ministry of Magic retcon their idea?
They kind of ran out of super notable outdoor locations to visit from the HP movies with Hogwarts/Hogsmead then London/Diagon Alley. (the Burrow isn't big enough for a land)

If the rumors are true, the ride inside the buildings is called "Battle of the Ministry of Magic" and be set in the HP timeline not fantastic beasts
 

UNCgolf

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They kind of ran out of super notable outdoor locations to visit from the HP movies with Hogwarts/Hogsmead then London/Diagon Alley. (the Burrow isn't big enough for a land)

If the rumors are true, the ride inside the buildings is called "Battle of the Ministry of Magic" and be set in the HP timeline not fantastic beasts

It should have been Hogwarts, since Hogwarts doesn't really feature at IoA except as a facade and queue.

But it's possible JK Rowling wouldn't allow it. Who knows.
 

Purduevian

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It should have been Hogwarts, since Hogwarts doesn't really feature at IoA except as a facade and queue.

But it's possible JK Rowling wouldn't allow it. Who knows.
That kinda feels like putting a Cinderella castle/ride in the Italy pavilion at EPCOT because the castle is just a restaurant and a walk though. Hogwarts is very clearly at IOA.

Now if they used something like floo powder to get you inside of Hogwarts with a different exterior, I wouldn't have a problem as long as the exterior was not something from the other 2 lands.
 

UNCgolf

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That kinda feels like putting a Cinderella castle/ride in the Italy pavilion at EPCOT because the castle is just a restaurant and a walk though. Hogwarts is very clearly at IOA.

Now if they used something like floo powder to get you inside of Hogwarts with a different exterior, I wouldn't have a problem as long as the exterior was not something from the other 2 lands.

The Hogwarts at IoA is a bit weird, in that it really looks like it's supposed a bit off in the distance even when you're entering FJ (which makes sense from an IP perspective because it is supposed to be off in the distance from Hogsmeade). It already requires some suspension of disbelief that you're suddenly inside the castle when you're in the FJ queue because there's nothing to actually get you there from Hogsmeade.

Regardless, even if it would require some fudging because of what they did at IoA, Hogwarts is by far the most iconic setting in the franchise and it seems a bit crazy that it's not going to be used more significantly at any of the parks.
 

Casper Gutman

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The Hogwarts at IoA is a bit weird, in that it really looks like it's supposed a bit off in the distance even when you're entering FJ (which makes sense from an IP perspective because it is supposed to be off in the distance from Hogsmeade). It already requires some suspension of disbelief that you're suddenly inside the castle when you're in the FJ queue because there's nothing to actually get you there from Hogsmeade.

Regardless, even if it would require some fudging because of what they did at IoA, Hogwarts is by far the most iconic setting in the franchise and it seems a bit crazy that it's not going to be used more significantly at any of the parks.
The Hogwarts dining hall is going to be added to EU a year or two after opening.

EU Potter is pretty incoherent… and I don’t care. Wizarding Paris is a cool, unique, exciting setting and the ride exploits the characters and time periods people actually care about. There’s a balancing act between “coherently canonical” and “what works.” I wish SWL was more like EU Potter. I do wish the new land had a family dark ride based on the fantastic beasts - I think that would make the land’s balance darn near perfect.
 

RoysCabin

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Finally experiencing it, but I admittedly didn't get to spend a ton of time. Still, wasn't super enthused; I'm not the biggest fan of these "mini-lands" that are centered around IPs to begin with, but I think my lack of feelings for the sequel trilogy leave me feeling kind of cold with it. It's not like it's bad, but I don't really feel like spending a ton of time there to do two rides I found mostly OK to pretty good, and then otherwise shopping or having a cantina drink.

Said it in the Rise thread, but to echo it here: it's that feeling that Disney wanted to "beat Potter", but they never realized what made that whole thing work so well for Universal. I've spent a couple years saying that what makes Potter tick is being based off a property that has aspects fans like that can appeal to all five senses, since it stems from a book series where descriptions of sights/sounds/smells/tastes/etc. are so vital, and it's based around a few very recognizable and fleshed-out physical locations that a theme park can really go wild with, since if you really nail those locations fans will go nuts.

Star Wars...just isn't that. It's not about specific locations (unless you want to count "swamp planet" or "cloud planet" as locations), it doesn't try to appeal to every sense with distinctive scents and foods people will want to experience for themselves, it's a purely cinematic and thus visuals-based series yet Disney built a land that doesn't even try to capitalize on what few distinctive locations the series *does* have (e.g. the Mos Eisley cantina), so, well...it had a lot of work put into it, but it just doesn't click beyond being "ok" for me.
 

Bocabear

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Finally experiencing it, but I admittedly didn't get to spend a ton of time. Still, wasn't super enthused; I'm not the biggest fan of these "mini-lands" that are centered around IPs to begin with, but I think my lack of feelings for the sequel trilogy leave me feeling kind of cold with it. It's not like it's bad, but I don't really feel like spending a ton of time there to do two rides I found mostly OK to pretty good, and then otherwise shopping or having a cantina drink.

Said it in the Rise thread, but to echo it here: it's that feeling that Disney wanted to "beat Potter", but they never realized what made that whole thing work so well for Universal. I've spent a couple years saying that what makes Potter tick is being based off a property that has aspects fans like that can appeal to all five senses, since it stems from a book series where descriptions of sights/sounds/smells/tastes/etc. are so vital, and it's based around a few very recognizable and fleshed-out physical locations that a theme park can really go wild with, since if you really nail those locations fans will go nuts.

Star Wars...just isn't that. It's not about specific locations (unless you want to count "swamp planet" or "cloud planet" as locations), it doesn't try to appeal to every sense with distinctive scents and foods people will want to experience for themselves, it's a purely cinematic and thus visuals-based series yet Disney built a land that doesn't even try to capitalize on what few distinctive locations the series *does* have (e.g. the Mos Eisley cantina), so, well...it had a lot of work put into it, but it just doesn't click beyond being "ok" for me.
THAT!! Yes...there is just something that doesn't click...Perhaps if they had used the original trilogy characters....Maybe if the location was recognizable... If the land was more kinetic somehow...If it had a little mor whimsy... But while I think Rise is fantastic when fully working, the rest of the land just doesn't seem to inspire...
 

DisneyDodo

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They kind of ran out of super notable outdoor locations to visit from the HP movies with Hogwarts/Hogsmead then London/Diagon Alley. (the Burrow isn't big enough for a land)

If the rumors are true, the ride inside the buildings is called "Battle of the Ministry of Magic" and be set in the HP timeline not fantastic beasts
It’s weird that they’re calling the land MoM and not Place Cachèe. I understand that it’s a more marketable name, but it doesn’t actually reflect what the land is supposed to represent. It only pertains to the ride, which takes place in a different country.
 

Basil of Baker Street

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Not to derail this thread but my only complaint with both Potter lands is they are "tight". If it was up to me I would expand USO Potter thru FF or ideally into MIB and IOA all the way to Sinbad and Poseidon's Fury. Potter is still strong all these years later.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Not to derail this thread but my only complaint with both Potter lands is they are "tight". If it was up to me I would expand USO Potter thru FF or ideally into MIB and IOA all the way to Sinbad and Poseidon's Fury. Potter is still strong all these years later.
That's a problem with some one-IP lands. If your E-Ticket anchor runs through 1,500 PPH, then 1,500 PPH are traipsing through the land. The land needs as much, if not more capacity than the ride. We see this with Ratatouille plaza and TSL. The ride(s) bring more people into the land that it can comfortably handle.

You need the kind of open space that a SWL provides.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
It appears Walt Disney World has added a new Disney Visa 10% discount for Savi's Workshop.

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