Major refurbishment of the Flying Fish Cafe beginning in February 2016

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
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Well...I did wait to see what it looked like... and again, i think it is nice... but hardly dramatic or even special... it looks like a dumbed down version of BlueZoo......Perfectly nice, but nothing particularly special...
Except that I've never seen anything like it from where I'm from, so to me, it is special, and I think it looks very classy. Sorry that you have so much better where you live that it doesn't appear special to you.
 

Bocabear

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Except that I've never seen anything like it from where I'm from, so to me, it is special, and I think it looks very classy. Sorry that you have so much better where you live that it doesn't appear special to you.
Don't be sorry... I am glad to live somewhere that has some decent architecture... but that is not the point...the point was, the original interior was much more custom and special than what replaced it... Also the fact that the 10 year old BlueZoo having a similar but more dramatic version of the interior kinda makes Flying Fish look less remarkable... that was my point, but thanks for trying to make this personal.
 

LuvtheGoof

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Premium Member
Don't be sorry... I am glad to live somewhere that has some decent architecture... but that is not the point...the point was, the original interior was much more custom and special than what replaced it... Also the fact that the 10 year old BlueZoo having a similar but more dramatic version of the interior kinda makes Flying Fish look less remarkable... that was my point, but thanks for trying to make this personal.
Sorry, not trying to make it personal. But we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I think the new look is miles better than the old one. You had stated that you have something similar where you live near Miami, and I was simply making the statement that the vast majority of us do not, so to us it is different, and better.
 

Brian Swan

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Although I have eaten at the "old" FF, I had no special attachment to either the menu or the decor. The food was good, but on the whole it was my least favorite of the Disney Signatures, and one I only went to if I was with a group that wanted to go. A lot of that was the atmosphere. I'm kind of a coaster nut and I loved the tie-in with the old Flying Turns coaster from Coney Island, but to me the setting and menu were a disconnect. With the bright colors, whimsical fish, and NOISE level, it was a place I would expect to get chowder, fish and shrimp baskets, crab cakes, maybe a lobster, hamburgers, hot dogs, etc - NOT $75-100 per person upscale fine dining. I love the new look, and FF will be on my "must do" list, along with Tiffins, on my next trip.
 

Bocabear

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Sorry, not trying to make it personal. But we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I think the new look is miles better than the old one. You had stated that you have something similar where you live near Miami, and I was simply making the statement that the vast majority of us do not, so to us it is different, and better.
Not only do we have similar things here, but I used a similar chandelier in a client's house about 4 years ago...so what I am saying, whether you have seen it before or not, Disney used to do extremely creative, original interiors for their different signature dining... this new interior, while very nice, doe not have any of the unique custom touches the previous interior had...and located practically next door, Todd English's restaurant has similar fixtures and theming, but is done in a way that is more dramatic... And yeah, everyone has an opinion...and that is what a forum is about.
 

trampdog

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Not only do we have similar things here, but I used a similar chandelier in a client's house about 4 years ago...so what I am saying, whether you have seen it before or not, Disney used to do extremely creative, original interiors for their different signature dining... this new interior, while very nice, doe not have any of the unique custom touches the previous interior had...and located practically next door, Todd English's restaurant has similar fixtures and theming, but is done in a way that is more dramatic... And yeah, everyone has an opinion...and that is what a forum is about.

Flying Fish is a Disney owned restaurant, Blue Zoo is not. If Todd wants to keep his other restaurants in the Marketing mix, he has to step it up. Personally, I think Blue Zoo is very dated. Looks more like an early 90's nightclub, than a restaurant. It's like eating in Mannequins.

Food-wise, I liked the old FF menu but this one looks equally good. I have my ADR in October. Can't wait!
 

ABQ

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Flying Fish is a Disney owned restaurant, Blue Zoo is not. If Todd wants to keep his other restaurants in the Marketing mix, he has to step it up. Personally, I think Blue Zoo is very dated. Looks more like an early 90's nightclub, than a restaurant. It's like eating in Mannequins.

Food-wise, I liked the old FF menu but this one looks equally good. I have my ADR in October. Can't wait!
Todd is a tool, in my personal opinion. Going way back in the day, dealing with him at Figs, the old Brookline, MA location, he was a nice guy, but dang has he become more and more of a hat made of a butt, if you get my meaning.
As for the decore of Flying Fish, I think it's nicer than that of BlueZoo, but the resemblance is not hard to see.
 

Bocabear

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Todd is a tool, in my personal opinion. Going way back in the day, dealing with him at Figs, the old Brookline, MA location, he was a nice guy, but dang has he become more and more of a hat made of a butt, if you get my meaning.
As for the decore of Flying Fish, I think it's nicer than that of BlueZoo, but the resemblance is not hard to see.
and that was sort of my point...a lack of originality to the decor...espcially with it being a Disney restaurant VS a commercial venture at a competing hotel... You would always expect the Disney version to be much more original and spectacular...well in the past anyway. Blue Zoo has also been open for about 12 years... so that might be why it feels dated to you...
 

TheGuyThatMakesSwords

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All personal opinion - I'm not right, no one else is wrong.....

I really LIKE what they have done to the Restaurant finishings..... it looks comfortable, upscale, and really nice.

But I also looked at the menu :(.
Generally, I see very little SHELLFish. There is no Alaskan King Crab, not even a really good sized Lobster. SOME Clams, Mussles, Oysters - but only in the Appetizer area.

No one wants to spill the facts on the Wagu size.... at $58 a head? My guess is you are getting a 4 Oz. Filet. Thinking this would be best introduced in the "Appetizer" section, and really not sure how it actually fits the Restaurant's Focus.

All in all - I personally love the decor. But I won't be going there, due to the limited menu. Good news? Menus can change - I'll keep an eye on the offerings.

Again.... All personal opinion - I'm not right, no one else is wrong..... :).
 

Pleakley

Active Member
Not only do we have similar things here, but I used a similar chandelier in a client's house about 4 years ago...so what I am saying, whether you have seen it before or not, Disney used to do extremely creative, original interiors for their different signature dining... this new interior, while very nice, doe not have any of the unique custom touches the previous interior had...and located practically next door, Todd English's restaurant has similar fixtures and theming, but is done in a way that is more dramatic... And yeah, everyone has an opinion...and that is what a forum is about.

I couldn't agree more. It's nice, looks like a high end restaurant. I was just really hoping for something grand and unique. Disney set that bar and that's how I got interested in design as a kid. If you put yourself back fifteen to twenty years ago, FF really had that wow factor. You'd expect that again, just today's equivalent. It's like they hinted at an art deco/Hollywood regency feel, but really played it safe. They could have gone very dramatic in the style and it still would have been very classy. The theme offers such an opportunity to be opulent and transportive that it feels like a bit of a waste.

But I will say, the photos on this site look much nicer than those on others. The first few I saw appeared incredibly dark and very different from the concept art. Initially I really disliked the look for this particular space, and I like dark colors normally. I thought the palette almost looked like Jiko. However, now seeing it in proper light, the colors seem fine. I suppose they went for "under the sea" as the review says. I would have loved to have seen them gone with some lighter blues though.
 

DisneyPrincess5

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I haven't read anything about this-weren't they suppose to do something about a lack of a waiting area for reservations or did I imagine that one up? I could've sworn I heard that part of the rehab was creating a little more of a space for waiting.

The review was very informative. Food looks good as does the new ambiance! My mom will be eating there in November-excited to see what she will think.
 

Bocabear

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I haven't read anything about this-weren't they suppose to do something about a lack of a waiting area for reservations or did I imagine that one up? I could've sworn I heard that part of the rehab was creating a little more of a space for waiting.

The review was very informative. Food looks good as does the new ambiance! My mom will be eating there in November-excited to see what she will think.
I think adding the bar next door will address some of the waiting area concerns while adding money to the coffers... Honestly all signature restaurants should have a longe area...
 

rael ramone

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The signature appetizer that was removed (crab cake with ancho remoulade) is quite doable at home. Or just make the remoulade and put it on a home made po boy...
 

NeXuS1000

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Great review of the re-imagining of FF from :

http://.com/blog/2016/08/photos-vid...neys-boardwalk-as-an-entirely-new-restaurant/

So far, I've only heard great receptions since it re-opened.
 

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