5th gate anyone.......?

[ppete1975]

Another thing is if you open a 5th gate you severely hurt 3 of the other parks. Everybody will either want to go to the new gate, or the MK. Epcot, AK, and HS would suffer badly. It makes more sense to expand the existing gates even if that means moving infrastructure around. Also the 5th gate would be severely over crowded for the foreseeable future where adding new areas to already existing gates would spread people around.
As much as I would love a new gate it doesnt make alot of sense. As far as universal I would be alot more worried if it wasnt for MK and that beautiful castle. People all over the world and little kids will always want to go there and meet mickey. No matter what IP universal adds, no matter the naysayers, nothing can compete with that. But how many days people stay or how the other 3 parks do thats the question.

Disney hasnt been the bubble it once was for a long time.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Another thing is if you open a 5th gate you severely hurt 3 of the other parks. Everybody will either want to go to the new gate, or the MK. Epcot, AK, and HS would suffer badly. It makes more sense to expand the existing gates even if that means moving infrastructure around. Also the 5th gate would be severely over crowded for the foreseeable future where adding new areas to already existing gates would spread people around.
As much as I would love a new gate it doesnt make alot of sense. As far as universal I would be alot more worried if it wasnt for MK and that beautiful castle. People all over the world and little kids will always want to go there and meet mickey. No matter what IP universal adds, no matter the naysayers, nothing can compete with that. But how many days people stay or how the other 3 parks do thats the question.

Disney hasnt been the bubble it once was for a long time.

That’s park cannibalization …which is why any mention of “5th park” ends up being silly

 

[ppete1975]

Another media site misinterpreting the agreement. The Reedy Creek Comprehensive plan has had an allowance for a 5th gate since 2010. This is simply what is allowed to be developed under the agreement not necessarily what Disney actually plans to build.

They could have built a nuclear power plant as well, according to the original agreements.

 

[Master Yoda]

They could have built a nuclear power plant as well, according to the original agreements.

let us not forget the airport.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

They could have built a nuclear power plant as well, according to the original agreements.

If they did, I'd bet you it'd have a "festival"

 

[HauntedPirate]

They could have built a nuclear power plant as well, according to the original agreements.

let us not forget the airport.

Where does the prison go?

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Where does the prison go?

Discovery Island. Could be Disney's Alcatraz or Australia (depending on how you look at it).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Where does the prison go?

…some would say all star music…

I say it’s anyplace with a fixed price menu

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Discovery Island. Could be Disney's Alcatraz or Australia (depending on how you look at it).

Rabid wallaby out there would be epic

 

[FutureCEO]

There will be no fifth gate when the new rides and areas are horrible

 

[Stripes]

The biggest argument against a fifth gate has been that Americans wouldn’t be willing to extend their vacations to visit all the parks. I’m not sure that’s a valid reason Disney wouldn’t build another gate though.

For one, if a visitor doesn’t have enough time to see all the parks in one trip it would likely encourage them to make another trip next year to see the rest of them.

Secondly, Disney needs to spread out the crowds more in order to maintain a positive guest experience.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

There will be no fifth gate when the new rides and areas are horrible

There will be no fifth gate when the new stuff is horrible…and your attendance is declining because you’ve far outpriced your market…

Tomato/potato

 

[Jrb1979]

The biggest argument against a fifth gate has been that Americans wouldn’t be willing to extend their vacations to visit all the parks. I’m not sure that’s a valid reason Disney wouldn’t build another gate though.

For one, if a visitor doesn’t have enough time to see all the parks in one trip it would likely encourage them to make another trip next year to see the rest of them.

Secondly, Disney needs to spread out the crowds more in order to maintain a positive guest experience.

IMO to spread out crowds, they need more attractions in the parks that are already there

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Eh. I'd rather them fix stuff and the lack of stuff in their current parks.

 

[Stripes]

IMO to spread out crowds, they need more attractions in the parks that are already there

I think adding capacity to the existing parks first would be a good idea but eventually they will need a fifth gate.

Adding to the existing parks will also help ensure that when a fifth gate is built the new park won’t cannibalize any one park too much. Of course, any time a new gate is built the rest of the parks see some level of attendance decrease but with the number of guests visiting WDW nowadays it makes sense to consider adding a fifth gate in 7-10 years time.

 

[danlb_2000]

The biggest argument against a fifth gate has been that Americans wouldn’t be willing to extend their vacations to visit all the parks. I’m not sure that’s a valid reason Disney wouldn’t build another gate though.

For one, if a visitor doesn’t have enough time to see all the parks in one trip it would likely encourage them to make another trip next year to see the rest of them.

Secondly, Disney needs to spread out the crowds more in order to maintain a positive guest experience.

It's not just a question of time, but of money. Are there enough people who would add extra trips to do more?

Is there any evidence that the current crowd level are hurting attendance?

 

[danlb_2000]

I think adding capacity to the existing parks first would be a good idea but eventually they will need a fifth gate.

This is dependent on how much un-tapped market there is.

 

[Goofyernmost]

This is dependent on how much un-tapped market there is.

I have a feeling that the market that could afford to go has already been there and are now tapped out.

 

[esskay]

The biggest argument against a fifth gate has been that Americans wouldn’t be willing to extend their vacations to visit all the parks. I’m not sure that’s a valid reason Disney wouldn’t build another gate though.

For one, if a visitor doesn’t have enough time to see all the parks in one trip it would likely encourage them to make another trip next year to see the rest of them.

Secondly, Disney needs to spread out the crowds more in order to maintain a positive guest experience.

It would need the 4 parks to be consistently full at all times to warrant the 5th gate. That would have to mean Americans are there constantly keeping it full along with internationals, and even then the 5th gate is only going to really spread them, meaning some Americans would be skipping a park entirely given the shorter vacation stays.

Capacity isn't anywhere close to its limit, so no 5th gate. Not now, not in 5 years, probaly not even in 15 years, especially when they can just expand what they've already got.

 

[danlb_2000]

It would need the 4 parks to be consistently full at all times to warrant the 5th gate. That would have to mean Americans are there constantly keeping it full along with internationals, and even then the 5th gate is only going to really spread them, meaning some Americans would be skipping a park entirely given the shorter vacation stays.

Capacity isn't anywhere close to its limit, so no 5th gate. Not now, not in 5 years, probaly not even in 15 years, especially when they can just expand what they've already got.

.. and they need to have squeezed every penny out of existing guests. At the moment it it easier to get more money out of existing guests then to try to draw new visits.