$4 a gallon... we aren't going...

[VillanovaBlue]

gees, would you qualify that as a selfish post? :shrug:

sounds like someone who doesn't pay the bills for the family. or is in an elite situation, where the price of gas doesn't affect them at all.

very short sighted. but not uncommon for those who "have money".

Sounded like just a joke to me...lighten up Francis...

And while I don't "have money" as you say, I don't begrudge those who do...in fact, I do what I can to eventually be someone who "has money"...even if that sometimes means I can't take that trip to Disney, or buy that new flat-screen TV...

 

[Mybails]

I have an 8 seater Sienna - At $5.00 US from here in Winnipeg to WDW and back (6 people in our van) it would cost $900 US -
1 return flight is almost that. And I can take all the luggage I want for no extra charge.

Face it folks - the world is changing but the ratios aren't any different as 20 years ago, when we all made a lot less and things cost less. If the price of fuel is going to change your life that much, obviously you were over extended before the price went up. We don't fly because of the cost of the flight and renting a car. So we will take 6 people 4300 miles for at most $900. About $200 more than we originally budgeted but we'll be saving about $3,800.00.

As for home fuel and driving, we average -20 F during the winter with 2 - 3 feet of snow. I don't drive an all wheel drive. I have learnt how to drive responsibly without it. I have never gotten stuck with my van. I drive the speed limit and don't spin my tires when I hit a snowy spot. Our house (3600 Sq ft) is kept at 72 degrees. A sweater is useful if you're chilly. I heat and light my house for a year for $2000 Cdn. the worst month is about $450 Cdn.

My point is whining isn't going to help, stop, think, and start realizing that we all have to do what we can to use our resources in a responsible manner. That means money, fuel, air, and water.

 

[bjlc57]

sorry but it didn't sound like a joke to me..

it sounded like someone being ignorant of the plight of the country. or again, some one who doesn't pay their own bills. or for whom the price of gas has no meaning..

for example, on another forum, I have a guy who is justifying the current price of gas.. however, He DOESN'T pay for his own gas, HIS EMPLOYER DOES. So what does he care, what the price of gas is? its not costing him a penny.

and again, its not just the extra money spent on the trip, its how much more you have to spend on weekly basis. Its how much it takes out of your current pocketbook for the long haul.

its not like spend the extra $500 and its over.. $4.00 a gallon is still there when you get back from Disney as well. its the extra $50 per week. and for some its much, much more.

don't say to "lighten up".. the price of gas has a much further affect on your life other then going to WDW for a week or two.

for some its a crushing affect. its deciding do I have enough cash to buy food or put gas in my car to go to work. ( I am not in that situation, but certainly others are..)

and trust me, in Wisconsin, all the resorts are feeling the effects. Not some, all of them. A resort owner, recently told me that his wife had to get a job outside of her resort owner duties, just to make ends meet. resorts and restaurants are closing because of this.

I was in Alabama and drove back to Wisconsin on Memorial day.. the roads were close to being empty.

US motorists have already cut back 14 million miles per month according to the news.. and that was BEFORE $4 per gallon gas.

tomorrow the US gas report will come out at 9:30 est, and let you know just how little people drove for the three day weekend.

this is not something to "lighten up about".. this price of gas is serious business, to all of us.

GM is announcing that 4000 workers here in Wisconsin are losing their jobs THIS MORNING.

should we "lighten up" about that?

and its all from $4 per gallon gas.

 

[steffen1912]

Hi there,
i´m realy sorry about the gas price and the followings but just keep in mind that you all fare away from my point: This morning I had to pay 8,66 for 1 gal. regular gas!!! I think that is really bad!!!
Greetings to all of you from germany:wave:

 

[abbeysmom]

Good Lord, sorry to have offended so many people with a smart a** post. And to answer ALL the questions, my husband and I are in our 50's and pay all our own bills. We have nothing paid for by anyone but us. Neither one of us has any type of expense account for work. We actually clean houses for an extra job to make extra money. We both drive 50 miles to work RT each day which will change soon. I will be driving 90 miles to work 1 way. So I AM VERY AWARE OF PRICES!! Thank you very much. We don't have children and choose to use our extra money traveling..... I was just making a joke people..... :hammer:And for the record, I am sure that WDW will be plenty crowded when we get there in 3 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!! We have saved for a long time for this trip and will truly appreciate the fact that we are able to go. We never take things like this for granted. Believe me we are not one of those "with money". That is really funny to think about actually.

Sounds to me like someone is very bitter with life. I don't like it anymore than the next person but as I said in another post, I WILL NOT let it get me down. We all still have the freedom to pick and choose what we do, what we purchase and where we go.

 

[bjlc57]

geography lesson...

Germany is approximately the size of Wisconsin.. definitely not as big as say Wisconsin and Minnesota combined.. meaning that for that $8 in gas you can easily drive across the state, or in this case the whole country.

lets put things in real perspective.

 

[sknydave]

it sounded like someone being ignorant of the plight of the country. or again, some one who doesn't pay their own bills. or for whom the price of gas has no meaning..

for example, on another forum, I have a guy who is justifying the current price of gas.. however, He DOESN'T pay for his own gas, HIS EMPLOYER DOES. So what does he care, what the price of gas is? its not costing him a penny.

and again, its not just the extra money spent on the trip, its how much more you have to spend on weekly basis. Its how much it takes out of your current pocketbook for the long haul.

its not like spend the extra $500 and its over.. $4.00 a gallon is still there when you get back from Disney as well. its the extra $50 per week. and for some its much, much more.

don't say to "lighten up".. the price of gas has a much further affect on your life other then going to WDW for a week or two.

for some its a crushing affect. its deciding do I have enough cash to buy food or put gas in my car to go to work. ( I am not in that situation, but certainly others are..)

and trust me, in Wisconsin, all the resorts are feeling the effects. Not some, all of them. A resort owner, recently told me that his wife had to get a job outside of her resort owner duties, just to make ends meet. resorts and restaurants are closing because of this.

I was in Alabama and drove back to Wisconsin on Memorial day.. the roads were close to being empty.

US motorists have already cut back 14 million miles per month according to the news.. and that was BEFORE $4 per gallon gas.

tomorrow the US gas report will come out at 9:30 est, and let you know just how little people drove for the three day weekend.

this is not something to "lighten up about".. this price of gas is serious business, to all of us.

GM is announcing that 4000 workers here in Wisconsin are losing their jobs THIS MORNING.

should we "lighten up" about that?

and its all from $4 per gallon gas.

And yet the first thought that came to your mind was OH NO! WE HAVE TO CANCEL OUR DISNEY TRIP!?

 

[VillanovaBlue]

Good Lord, sorry to have offended so many people with a smart a** post. And to answer ALL the questions, my husband and I are in our 50's and pay all our own bills. We actually clean houses for an extra job to make extra money. We both drive 50 miles to work RT each day which will change soon. I will be driving 90 miles to work 1 way. So I AM VERY AWARE OF PRICES!! Thank you very much. We don't have children and choose to use our extra money traveling..... I was just making a joke people..... :hammer:And for the record, I am sure that WDW will be plenty crowded when we get there in 3 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry...some people just don't have a sense of humor...which is even more important when things get tough...:wave:

 

[wannab@dis]

it sounded like someone being ignorant of the plight of the country. or again, some one who doesn't pay their own bills. or for whom the price of gas has no meaning..

for example, on another forum, I have a guy who is justifying the current price of gas.. however, He DOESN'T pay for his own gas, HIS EMPLOYER DOES. So what does he care, what the price of gas is? its not costing him a penny.

and again, its not just the extra money spent on the trip, its how much more you have to spend on weekly basis. Its how much it takes out of your current pocketbook for the long haul.

its not like spend the extra $500 and its over.. $4.00 a gallon is still there when you get back from Disney as well. its the extra $50 per week. and for some its much, much more.

don't say to "lighten up".. the price of gas has a much further affect on your life other then going to WDW for a week or two.

for some its a crushing affect. its deciding do I have enough cash to buy food or put gas in my car to go to work. ( I am not in that situation, but certainly others are..)

and trust me, in Wisconsin, all the resorts are feeling the effects. Not some, all of them. A resort owner, recently told me that his wife had to get a job outside of her resort owner duties, just to make ends meet. resorts and restaurants are closing because of this.

I was in Alabama and drove back to Wisconsin on Memorial day.. the roads were close to being empty.

US motorists have already cut back 14 million miles per month according to the news.. and that was BEFORE $4 per gallon gas.

tomorrow the US gas report will come out at 9:30 est, and let you know just how little people drove for the three day weekend.

this is not something to "lighten up about".. this price of gas is serious business, to all of us.

GM is announcing that 4000 workers here in Wisconsin are losing their jobs THIS MORNING.

should we "lighten up" about that?

and its all from $4 per gallon gas.

LOL

You talk about priorities, but yet you are the one that started the whole "woe is me, I can't go to Disney World." Sorry, but that sounds like you don't have an issue with priorities, but entitlement. Face it, WDW is a luxury, not a necessity. For us driving 1000 miles, the cost of gas has added maybe $150 to our trip. If I can't afford that $150, how was I going to afford the $2000+ for the vacation to begin with?

Does the cost of gas affect us? Sure, my 50 mile RT commute each day takes gas. But if it was causing me to re-think what I could buy (groceries, clothes, housing, etc) then the last thing on my mind would be a luxury such as a trip to WDW. Quite honestly, it sounds like you are the one that should get the priorities lecture. :wave:

 

[maggiegrace1]

Good Lord, sorry to have offended so many people with a smart a** post. And to answer ALL the questions, my husband and I are in our 50's and pay all our own bills. We have nothing paid for by anyone but us. Neither one of us has any type of expense account for work. We actually clean houses for an extra job to make extra money. We both drive 50 miles to work RT each day which will change soon. I will be driving 90 miles to work 1 way. So I AM VERY AWARE OF PRICES!! Thank you very much. We don't have children and choose to use our extra money traveling..... I was just making a joke people..... :hammer:And for the record, I am sure that WDW will be plenty crowded when we get there in 3 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!! We have saved for a long time for this trip and will truly appreciate the fact that we are able to go. We never take things like this for granted. Believe me we are not one of those "with money". That is really funny to think about actually.

Sounds to me like someone is very bitter with life. I don't like it anymore than the next person but as I said in another post, I WILL NOT let it get me down. We all still have the freedom to pick and choose what we do, what we purchase and where we go.

You have no reason to apologize at all...

He is the one who started the thread complaining because he can not go to WDW yet gives you a lecture on priorities and values and whatever...

Seems to me like his biggest problem about gas being so high in his first post was the fact that he had to cancel his trip..and not about people losing jobs and food and other things being priced so high.

Some people do not have to worry about the price of gas or other things because they can afford things and not worry..and whether it is because they work hard and earn that money themselves or have it given to them..it is really no buisness of ours.

 

[VillanovaBlue]

You have no reason to apologize at all...

He is the one who started the thread complaining because he can not go to WDW yet gives you a lecture on priorities and values and whatever...

Seems to me like his biggest problem about gas being so high in his first post was the fact that he had to cancel his trip..and not about people losing jobs and food and other things being priced so high.

Some people do not have to worry about the price of gas or other things because they can afford things and not worry..and whether it is because they work hard and earn that money themselves or have it given to them..it is really no buisness of ours.

:sohappy::sohappy::sohappy:

 

[Sam02]

what I really like is that I should buy another vehicle, when I own free and clear the one that I currently have. that's the advice that I really like. Spend $5000, $8000, $12,000, $18000 to save gas. How much gas do I need to save to justify spending this amount of money?

and that I should do so just because "some know it all on the internet said so".

some one who must know where I live, or my weather or what ever. Someone who must know my personal driveway, and what it is like in 6 or 8 or 14 inches of snow, or in glare ice.

wow, how did I ever live without this expert in my life?


the bottom line is that its too expensive to go to Florida.

and that $1.65 a gallon price, that was just over two years ago.

sad to say.

I stated you did not need a suburban to drive, it is a choice you make. I also based this statement off your post stating you needed it for comfort to make the trip. You made no mention of where you live, that you have it paid off, that it is more convienent in the winter, etc until after other posters got on you about your excessive need for comfort. You can not then go back and tell us how wrong we are because we don't have all the information. Maybe that is what you should have started with instead of saying it was a comfort requirement.

 

[minnie2000]

Slightly off topic, but air ticket prices are increasing too. I checked the price yesterday for a return ticket from Gatwick to Orlando for one person, this August, and it is £900 - that's $1800!!! Last year it was about £400 and we thought that was expensive!

We booked ages ago and paid much less than that, but are hoping that we won't be hit with a huge fuel surcharge!

 

[Brwneyedgirl72]

The bottom line is that vacations are a luxury - no matter where you choose to go. A person needs to evaluate their own priorities and decide what is best for them. Everyone is effected in some way by the rising cost of living, we just have to learn to make adjustments and sacrifices where we can. If eliminating a trip this year helps to ease the burden, then that is a choice you have to make for the greater good. However, to sit around, whine and feel sorry for yourself because you are spending more in gas is what you want to do - so be it. Life is too short - lighten up people!!!! Plan something closer to home or save for a little while longer so that you can afford your trip to WDW, just a little later than you had originally planned.

 

[bjlc57]

And yet the first thought that came to your mind was OH NO! WE HAVE TO CANCEL OUR DISNEY TRIP!?

no that was not my first thought. But it became a product of what $4 per gallon has caused.

and let me say that if this price holds or increases, it will be a product of many of the posters here, who pay their own bills, who set the family budget, Who know just how much, heat, and lights and house payment cost, how much the price of food is rising as we speak. see all those things add up. and they are going up due to one factor, $4 per gallon of gas. Most of you don't know that the price of flour has tripled this year. wait until July and see what the price of corn will be from a road side seller.
for the first time in this country, people are STEALING CORN from silo's because of it's worth.


but don't put words into my mouth.

and don't poo poo this graphic situation. this loss of 4000 jobs here in Wisconsin will reach across the country. To the steel mills. to the plastics manufactures. To the manufacturers of the seats. to all the companies that sell to GM to complete these trucks. They all will be affected.

to the city of Janesville, watch as the crime rate rises as people do stupid things just trying to survive. and if you don't believe me, ask the people of Flint Michigan.

and as for the poster from Missouri, if you take the time to look at my handle, it clearly says LaCrosse, Wisconsin. it isn't hidden or disguised in any way.




Gas is $4 per gallon and we are not going to Disney. and we are not alone.

 

[WDW Monorail]

Gas is $4 per gallon and we are not going to Disney. and we are not alone.

That's cheap.

 

[Southern Lady]

Gas

It is serious problem. We do have gas here in the USA. Colorado, TX, off shore need to be tapped. It does affect everything, grocercies, etc. Newt Gingrich made a statement that I like. DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, PAY LESS. I used to know a lot of oil people, and it is here. They made a decision to buy outside of the US because it was cheaper. We have been lucky for a long time, but we need to be intelligent about using what we have. I too came back from a trip on Memorial Day, 864 miles, and there was not much traffic. Also flew to WDW in May.

 

[Sam02]

and as for the poster from Missouri, if you take the time to look at my handle, it clearly says LaCrosse, Wisconsin. it isn't hidden or disguised in any way.

And that means what to me? I shouldn't have to research where you live, what the weather is like, how you pay your bills, whether you have paid off your car or not. I went off what you posted, what you deemed important for the rest of us to know. You stated you and 3 other adults need (your words, not mine) a Suburban for comfort on the drive to WDW. You did not state any other facts on why you might need said Suburban. It is not my responsibility to read your mind, your personal information even it is not hidden or disguised, or any other minutia you deem relevant after the fact.

And yes I do live in Missouri, in an area prone to ice storms. So instead of dealing with lots of snow, I deal with ice covered roads. I still don't need a huge SUV to get around. Would it be extremely helpful? Yes! But I still don't need it. Life is all about choices, and I choose not to drive a vehicle that would cost me hundreds/thousands extra in gas.

I'm not telling you to go into debt to buy another vehicle, but if you choose to buy an SUV then you gave up the ability to complain about it's gas mileage and how much it costs to fill it up. It doesn't matter what gas prices are today compared to 2, 5, 10 years ago. SUV's gas mileage has not really changed all that much over that amount of time. You hopefully knew buying such a vehicle meant that you would need to fill it up more frequently and therefore drive up your demand for fuel.

Basic economics...the demand for fuel is up (from us and other countries) therefore price will go up. If we want price to go down, demand must go down as well. This means a great deal of lifestyle choices that I just don't see too many people willing to make (all of us, not just you) at this time. Case in point.....Local TV did a piece about local gas prices and how it affects people's driving habits. One interviewee drove an RV and said that he wouldn't even consider cutting back on his driving habits until gas reached at least $6, and then he would have to "think" about it.

Sorry for the rant. I am trying to teach my kids the lesson of personal choices and responsiblity. There are choices we all make in life and we have to take the consequences (good and bad) that come with them. We don't get to put the blame on anybody else for the choices we make.

 

[abbeysmom]

Life is all about choice and I choose this year to go on vacation. Maybe next year will be different. I truly feel for all the people who are out of work and have no money coming in. I might possibly be out of work or work somewhere different with a lower salary next year since my job situation is changing in the fall I don't know at this point. :shrug:

And not that it matters but I drive a paid for 2002 Ford Taurus....

 

[wvdisneyfamily]

Good Lord, sorry to have offended so many people with a smart a** post. And to answer ALL the questions, my husband and I are in our 50's and pay all our own bills. We have nothing paid for by anyone but us. Neither one of us has any type of expense account for work. We actually clean houses for an extra job to make extra money. We both drive 50 miles to work RT each day which will change soon. I will be driving 90 miles to work 1 way. So I AM VERY AWARE OF PRICES!! Thank you very much. We don't have children and choose to use our extra money traveling..... I was just making a joke people..... :hammer:And for the record, I am sure that WDW will be plenty crowded when we get there in 3 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!! We have saved for a long time for this trip and will truly appreciate the fact that we are able to go. We never take things like this for granted. Believe me we are not one of those "with money". That is really funny to think about actually.

Sounds to me like someone is very bitter with life. I don't like it anymore than the next person but as I said in another post, I WILL NOT let it get me down. We all still have the freedom to pick and choose what we do, what we purchase and where we go.

I understood your post to be a joke. I actually said the same thing to my husband when gas started going up. No one in their right mind can think the current cost of gas is funny. The $4 cost is shocking but it is not totally unexpected. When making vacation plans one should plan on transportation costs whether it be plane, train, or automobile. Good vacation cost worksheets go a long way. I'm not being cold or hateful; I'm being realistic.