Politics 28000 Layoffs coming to Disney's domestic theme parks - statement from Josh D'Amaro

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Slpy3270

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Kinda interesting that there's no call to boycott Disney for the layoffs since that would probably be the only thing to force them to reverse course (aside from a stimulus deal that won't come til after the election, by which point the economy will have passed the point of no return).
 

Miss Bella

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First sailings are mid December, and I was told that they’re aiming to be operational for then as long as CDC doesn’t change.
I think the cdc lost that battle and Dec is before any potential administration changes. Theres a couple of discounted cruises late January early February that I have my eye on, but I’m not sure how the capacity limits are going to affect bookings.
 

Miss Bella

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Kinda interesting that there's no call to boycott Disney for the layoffs since that would probably be the only thing to force them to reverse course (aside from a stimulus deal that won't come til after the election, by which point the economy will have passed the point of no return).
Outside of Disney fan sites I’m not sure that many people care.
 

hopemax

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Kinda interesting that there's no call to boycott Disney for the layoffs since that would probably be the only thing to force them to reverse course (aside from a stimulus deal that won't come til after the election, by which point the economy will have passed the point of no return).
I think people understand this is a crisis situation. However, when people return to more normal travel patterns and are greeted with negative signs of Disney's new leaner operations. Things like long waits to enter a park, for rides, to order food, messy bathrooms and trash, fewer food & entertainment options, etc. that's when the pushback will happen. Customers are going to expect to be wooed by companies competing for their patronage, that's why people are looking for discounts already. If the basics are a serious of frustrations, I don't know how it's going to play.
 

Parker in NYC

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Kinda interesting that there's no call to boycott Disney for the layoffs since that would probably be the only thing to force them to reverse course (aside from a stimulus deal that won't come til after the election, by which point the economy will have passed the point of no return).

People are too lazy today to boycott. #cancel, maybe. But even that's fleeting.
 

Nmoody1

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Outside of Disney fan sites I’m not sure that many people care.
Unfortunately this is happening in companies across the world - and it will continue to happen for some time. Its very sad that people at disney are losing thier jobs, but this is not unique to Disney, florida or california. Retailers, hotels, aviation jobs - disney have sadly lost a huge number- i can't help it was in some way political - its interesting California are now moving ahead with reopening plans. I cant help but think Disney did *some* of this to put pressure on.
 

Lilofan

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People are too lazy today to boycott. #cancel, maybe. But even that's fleeting.
One revolt that came to mind was the ouster of Eisner as CEO. It worked and Iger became in charge. Both are doing fine financially. Eisner joined the billionaire boys club and Iger is not far behind.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I've been thinking about that since the announcements. Even if these Disney jobs come back 3-5 years, the salaries for those jobs will be less than if the pandemic had never happened. The front line cast may be less affected in the first wave, as living wage is still a hot button issue. But all the salaried positions, managers, technicians, artisans, etc. If $80K jobs become $60K, if $60K becomes $40K, something is going to have to give in the greater scheme of things. That next wave, as we learn which industries have support in a world where people make less, while bearing the increased costs of worldly issues (climate change, healthcare, etc)... this all feels like we are going through a transformative period in history, with no guarantee that the outcomes will be positive.
I feel very much the same way. We all hope that travel bounces back in a few years and things go back to normal, but who the hell knows what kind of economy or world we will be living in once this pandemic is over. This crisis feels different to the others we have lived through over the past few decades, in part as it has collided with broader divisions over the results of the dominant economic (and perhaps political) model. This could end up in a more prosperous society, or it could go very much the other way.

This does seem like a moment in history when everything is up in the air and impossible to predict.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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One revolt that came to mind was the ouster of Eisner as CEO. It worked and Iger became in charge. Both are doing fine financially. Eisner joined the billionaire boys club and Iger is not far behind.

That’s kinda unique...

Where else in a company did a guy with his named on the door who looked exactly like Walt Disney have Eisner “offed”??

That is what happened there...and he may he having Iger lined up too If not for his chain smoking habit.
 

Jrb1979

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I really disagree with the bolded. My most enjoyable trips to WDW have been my most recent, and that isn’t because I’m mindlessly following Disney’s spin (I’ve visited in 1991, 1996, 2001, and several times since 2017). As you yourself acknowledge, it’s ultimately a matter of opinion, and while most people who post here seem to agree with you that the experience has significantly declined over the years, some of us genuinely feel differently.

That said, it’s impossible to be positive about these tragic layoffs and their wider implications. On that I think we can all agree.
I disagree with how Disney is now. Yes they put in some great new attractions. When I walk into a Disney park now I think of Six Flags. What I mean by that is the constant bombardment of IP everywhere which I equate to the constant bombardment of Ads at Six Flags. Adding all the IP into World Showcase and shoehorning in IP into places has turned me off Disney.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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That is what happened there...and he may he having Iger lined up too If not for his chain smoking habit.
Shame he chose to copy Walt on that habit. :(
I disagree with how Disney is now. Yes they put in some great new attractions. When I walk into a Disney park now I think of Six Flags. What I mean by that is the constant bombardment of IP everywhere which I equate to the constant bombardment of Ads at Six Flags. Adding all the IP into World Showcase and shoehorning in IP into places has turned me off Disney.
Up until Pixar Pier and Toy Story Land I would disagree with you, but those 2 are certainly at six flags level.

While I disagree with the level of IP in Epcot, it’s been done well so far.
 

LittleBuford

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I disagree with how Disney is now. Yes they put in some great new attractions. When I walk into a Disney park now I think of Six Flags. What I mean by that is the constant bombardment of IP everywhere which I equate to the constant bombardment of Ads at Six Flags. Adding all the IP into World Showcase and shoehorning in IP into places has turned me off Disney.
I wasn’t disagreeing with his opinion of Disney, and I won’t disagree with yours either—it’s a matter of personal preference, after all. My only point was that those of us who continue to enjoy the experience aren’t simply falling for Disney’s messaging. In my case at least, it’s a genuine love affair. (I’m referring to pre-COVID times; I have no desire to return before things start getting back to normal.)
 

Slpy3270

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Yep. Some CMs were relocated but the majority and the department is gone.

So the Marvel Land stuff and the Splash Mountain retheme are out? Laying off creative content is basically saying you don't plan on building anything for decades.

EDIT: Never mind. They're the ad agency. Still, how will you even advertise Disney Parks without them?
 
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denyuntilcaught

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So the Marvel Land stuff and the Splash Mountain retheme are out? Laying off creative content is basically saying you don't plan on building anything for decades.

EDIT: Never mind. They're the ad agency. Still, how will you even advertise Disney Parks without them?

Late last year they divided their $3B Parks and D+ media account with 2 of the big 4 ad agencies, Publicis and Omnicom, who created dedicated in-house agencies to serve Disney: Publicis Imagine and OMD23.

While that's largely media related, most of the work seemed duplicative from what I heard.
 

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