Politics 28000 Layoffs coming to Disney's domestic theme parks - statement from Josh D'Amaro

[el_super]

If population density were the cause California would be less expensive than Florida. Florida has 364.6 per square mile while California only has 246.1 per square mile.

That may just be a holistic look though. The mountains and deserts in California make land use... Complicated at best. The population density in Southern California is about twice that of Miami, and the only reason it hasn't grown is due to the lack of housing.

 

[Brian]

For a non American can someone explain in a non political way why people keep mentioning relocating to texas? I don’t know enough about the local politics/economics to understand why this thread keeps coming up and I would genuinely like to understand more

Taxes and COVID-19 restrictions. California has a lot of both, Texas has very few COVID restrictions and lower taxes.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

For a non American can someone explain in a non political way why people keep mentioning relocating to texas? I don’t know enough about the local politics/economics to understand why this thread keeps coming up and I would genuinely like to understand more

I’m an American and I don’t understand it. lol

 

[Lilofan]

In the least political way I think I can put it: California is bursting with people, and due to the climate and history, is a fairly desirable place to live. As such, its also incredibly expensive to live there. Texas has more usable land, so its a cheaper alternative, but as it has a population only slightly smaller than California, the quality of life can be maintained.

Most of these "move to texas" tropes completely originate in political fantasy though.

In Austin TX there are two basic food groups, barbeque and tacos.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Terrible idea. Even if it made sense to leave California, there are far cheaper and more strategic places (like China) they could move to.

Not sure if you’re serious...they have a park in China and would never move their headquarters overseas. Texas makes infinitely more sense than China...many American companies have moved to Texas, so this idea isn’t foreign.

California is doing a lot of damage to Disney.

 

[Robbiem]

Thanks guys. Some really interesting points, I never knew about the useable land differences or that tax and benefits vary between states. Explains a lot of the threads I’ve been reading

 

[techgeek]

For a non American can someone explain in a non political way why people keep mentioning relocating to texas? I don’t know enough about the local politics/economics to understand why this thread keeps coming up and I would genuinely like to understand more

In addition to the reasons others have mentioned, there’s been a wave of tech companies recently relocating there, so it’s somewhat of a copy-cat business move... off the top of my head I can think of HP, Oracle, and recently Tesla making announcements to move to the Austin area. It’s this weeks business fad.

Of note, in many cases this is often just the ‘Headquarters’ of a company, for tax purposes mainly. If Disney were for some unlikely reason to actually do this, it would probably only be the ‘Team Disney’ HQ operations... which could be done just about anywhere anyways. I don’t think anyone would seriously expect them to close Disneyland, or move significant amounts of film production off the west coast.

 

[legwand77]

Can't, California is the center of the entertainment industry.

Might be corporate headquarters but for production, a good bit are shot outside of California. Primarily for tax purposes. All of Disney highest grossing movies are shot at studios outside of California

 

[JoeCamel]

In addition to the reasons others have mentioned, there’s been a wave of tech companies recently relocating there, so it’s somewhat of a copy-cat business move... off the top of my head I can think of HP, Oracle, and recently Tesla making announcements to move to the Austin area. It’s this weeks business fad.

Of note, in many cases this is often just the ‘Headquarters’ of a company, for tax purposes mainly. If Disney were for some unlikely reason to actually do this, it would probably only be the ‘Team Disney’ HQ operations... which could be done just about anywhere anyways. I don’t think anyone would seriously expect them to close Disneyland, or move significant amounts of film production off the west coast.

Those companies do a very different business than Disney does. TWDC needs to be where it's business takes place. That is California. Same reason Walt went there in the first place.

 

[el_super]

California is doing a lot of damage to Disney.

Not really.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

California is doing a lot of damage to Disney.

Like what?

(And please don’t mention Disneyland since France and Hong Kong have also required Disney to close theme parks during this time.)

 

[Jrb1979]

Covid is doing a lot of damage to Disney.

FIFY

 

[el_super]

Of note, in many cases this is often just the ‘Headquarters’ of a company, for tax purposes mainly. If Disney were for some unlikely reason to actually do this, it would probably only be the ‘Team Disney’ HQ operations... which could be done just about anywhere anyways.

Talent pool is definitely something that would lock a company in a certain area, and as others have said, for Disney that usually means Southern California. Texas has done well to build a pool of tech talent,but for entertainment its still Hollywood (at least until the big talent agencies and/unions move out).

That being said though, the new work from home movement could encourage migrations out of California, but ironically that could also discourage people from picking Texas as the automatic stand in, since you could theoretically work/pull talent from anywhere, and Texas isn't the cheapest state to live in.

I think though that if Disney were to move anything anywhere, it would be overseas.

 

[Ldno]

they were always baseless rumors in the 90’s when Seaworld and six flags fiesta texas opened their parks in San Antonio for the longest time that Disney was planning to open a park in the Texas Hill Country, the land would certainly have been there but nevertheless it never took off, Granted texas has low taxes and no personal income tax but one of the problems is the fact that a lot of central texas relies on the edwards aquifer and at the time they were scared of droughts, hence why a lot of corporations and businesses shied away from moving their corporate HQ here.

This could of, might have been scenario is fascinating to me I guess.

Still all rumors, but quite interesting to say the least that one would had wondered what would had happened, kind of similar to that rumored Disney Colony or whatever, close to Virginia, anyways it’s obvious that Disney is not planning to invest heavily On theme parks for the longest time but Covid accelerated businesses into the future thanks to information technology too much they had to alter their ways of doing things so it’s obvious their main focus is not Disney +.

Austin is becoming the new tech center of the nation from what I have seen along with San Antonio, that mass exodus from California is real, I’m starting to see too many california license plates all over the area with Uhauls left and right.

 

[HongKongFooy]

California is bursting with people, and due to the climate and history, is a fairly desirable place to live.

desirable climate depends on where in Cali. Death Valley and the desert like other areas ain't too fun to live in nor is the extremely vast Central Valley which is geographically 40 perhaps 45% of the state. But the rest of the state has quite nice weather compared to other USA regions.

desirable history??
How many people move to Cali due to its history? Not many.



Folk find Cali desirable due to:
Terrain(ocean cliffs/beaches, vineyards, rivers, Alpine), Cities (LA, SF, San Diego),recreation/activities, jobs and yes some mild climate.

 

[SourcererMark79]

Georgia has and will continue to be a large theatrical filming location, would it be as welcoming to corporations?

 

[Lilofan]

Georgia has and will continue to be a large theatrical filming location, would it be as welcoming to corporations?

TWDC made some news in that they would consider not making future movies in Georgia due to abortion laws in that doctors may get sent to prison.

 

[el_super]

desirable history??
How many people move to Cali due to its history? Not many.

Ah yeah... By history I meant the businesses/industries that have been well established here (like Hollywood for Entertainment or Silicon Valley for Tech).

 

[lazyboy97o]

they were always baseless rumors in the 90’s when Seaworld and six flags fiesta texas opened their parks in San Antonio for the longest time that Disney was planning to open a park in the Texas Hill Country, the land would certainly have been there but nevertheless it never took off, Granted texas has low taxes and no personal income tax but one of the problems is the fact that a lot of central texas relies on the edwards aquifer and at the time they were scared of droughts, hence why a lot of corporations and businesses shied away from moving their corporate HQ here.

This could of, might have been scenario is fascinating to me I guess.

Still all rumors, but quite interesting to say the least that one would had wondered what would had happened, kind of similar to that rumored Disney Colony or whatever, close to Virginia, anyways it’s obvious that Disney is not planning to invest heavily On theme parks for the longest time but Covid accelerated businesses into the future thanks to information technology too much they had to alter their ways of doing things so it’s obvious their main focus is not Disney +.

Austin is becoming the new tech center of the nation from what I have seen along with San Antonio, that mass exodus from California is real, I’m starting to see too many california license plates all over the area with Uhauls left and right.

Disney’s America wasn’t just rumored, it was publicly announced by the Company.

Disney looking to do a project in Texas was not a baseless rumor. Disney‘s Texposition was a festival marketplace (a type of urban mall) Disney considered building in Dallas in the late 1980s.

https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1140&context=buzzprice

 

[Chef Mickey]

Like what?

(And please don’t mention Disneyland since France and Hong Kong have also required Disney to close theme parks during this time.)

Disneyland, Disneyland, and Disneyland.

They’ve been closed the longest are no longer even basing decisions on science or reality. Other parks have opened and are doing very well within guidelines and taking appropriate precautions.

Thousands of Californians are out of work because they are clueless.