20 years of Splash Mountain

[Clever Name]

Are you kidding?! Insensitive? how? Just because the setting takes place in a time of American history where there was slavery doesnt make the movie insensitive. I could see maybe if it promoted slavery, but of course thats not the case.
You might as well say EVERY movie that has anything to do with slavery is an insensitive movie. Besides, the movie even isn't about that. Its about the use of the imagination to tell stories and learn lessons. I realize everyone has the right to their opinion, but to call the movie insenstive is a little too much.

It is very insensitive, but my opinion on the matter is not important. The Disney CEO's opinion is important in this matter:

“Thank you for not disappointing me,” Iger said Wednesday after an attendee of the meeting in San Antonio asked about the 1946 film [Song of the South] ...

Calling the movie “antiquated” and “fairly offensive,” Iger said there are no plans for releasing “Song of the South” on DVD. ...

 

[WDWmazprty]

It is very insensitive, but my opinion on the matter is not important. The Disney CEO's opinion is important in this matter:

“Thank you for not disappointing me,” Iger said Wednesday after an attendee of the meeting in San Antonio asked about the 1946 film [Song of the South] ...

Calling the movie “antiquated” and “fairly offensive,” Iger said there are no plans for releasing “Song of the South” on DVD. ...

Again, I'd still like to know why it would be considered insensitive and fairly offensive.

 

[ellie-badge]

Are you kidding?! Insensitive? how? Just because the setting takes place in a time of American history where there was slavery doesnt make the movie insensitive. I could see maybe if it promoted slavery, but of course thats not the case.
You might as well say EVERY movie that has anything to do with slavery is an insensitive movie. Besides, the movie even isn't about that. Its about the use of the imagination to tell stories and learn lessons. I realize everyone has the right to their opinion, but to call the movie insenstive is a little too much.

With Clever Name's logic, Dumbo should be banned because it has a very prominent scene in which animals and most notably black people toil in the middle of a raging thunderstorm to set up the circus tents.

People are such pansies these days. Although I do love the movie, this is precisely why The Princess and the Frog is so unrealistic and why Disney made as many changes as they did to appease the masses.

 

[mickey2008.1]

Spalsh is a fantastic ride. Its got thrills, great theming, is quite long, and just has a great feel to it. It does need a good refurb, but still comes across very well. I can only imagine how long it would take to refurb, I mean, look at Space Mountains refurb, and that was nothing major.

 

[xdan0920]

With Clever Name's logic, Dumbo should be banned because it has a very prominent scene in which animals and most notably black people toil in the middle of a raging thunderstorm to set up the circus tents.

People are such pansies these days. Although I do love the movie, this is precisely why The Princess and the Frog is so unrealistic and why Disney made as many changes as they did to appease the masses.

"Logic" and that poster should never be mentioned in the same sentence.

 

[ellie-badge]

Again, I'd still like to know why it would be considered insensitive and fairly offensive.

I'd also like to know if they've even seen the movie and why they believe Wall-E would fit well in Frontierland.

 

[WDWmazprty]

I'd also like to know if they've even seen the movie and why they believe Wall-E would fit well in Frontierland.

Right. If anything Wall-E belongs in Tomorrowland; and maaayyybe Fantasyland but thats a stretch.

 

[ellie-badge]

Right. If anything Wall-E belongs in Tomorrowland; and maaayyybe Fantasyland but thats a stretch.

My guess would be either Tomorrowland or somewhere in Epcot. He could have a minor appearance in Animal Kingdom (conservation), but that's really a stretch. In short, though, there is a better chance of Disney re-theming Space Mountain to a ride where Wall-E is flown into space for the first time than there is of Splash Mountain being gutted and re-themed to Wall-E, no matter the content. It just wouldn't work, period.

 

[bubbles1812]

Clever Name's posts are quite...special. He either likes pulling people's legs just to get a reaction out of them or he's delusional...I can never decide which.

 

[ellie-badge]

Clever Name's posts are quite...special. He either likes pulling people's legs just to get a reaction out of them or he's delusional...I can never decide which.

They seemed somewhat (and I'm using "somewhat" very loosely here) legitimate in their first couple of posts on this thread, but it wasn't long before they made their intentions quite clear.

 

[Kuhio]

Let's put it this way: the Norway pavilion isn't the only place you'll find a Disney troll...

 

[Magenta Panther]

I've seen Song of the South twice: once at a re-release when I was a kid, and recently *ahem* online. And I really think that, with a little judicious editing, the film would be quite acceptable for most audiences. I wish Iger would reconsider, but if he won't, maybe the NEXT CEO of Disney will be a little more appreciative of the Disney legacy and will make the attempt to let SotS' magic be shared with today's generation and beyond...

 

[hollywoodj]

I just don't understand the hate of Splash's story. I love it. I would hate if they rethemed such a classic story; it builds suspense until the final drop.

No need for a new theme; let's just get the ride, as a whole, back on its feet again.

 

[GoofGoof]

They will NEVER shut down a ride just to work on the show, if the ride needs work then they could work on the show concurrently. They think they can just work on the show at nights without shutting down the ride.

This is probably true. BTMRR probably got the nod this year since it had structural ride issues. They couldn't have both rides down at one time and they won't close Splash in the summer. My guess is if they close it for a major refurb it will not be until January 2014. The mine train will be open or close to open as well as the rest of FLE so crowds will be diverted to the other side of the park anyway. I have no info to support this. Just a guess. No way will they change the theme. Splash is top 5 most popular at WDW. Why change a great thing.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Being a cartoon, Wall-E only fits in Fantasyland.

It is very insensitive, but my opinion on the matter is not important. The Disney CEO's opinion is important in this matter:

“Thank you for not disappointing me,” Iger said Wednesday after an attendee of the meeting in San Antonio asked about the 1946 film [Song of the South] ...

Calling the movie “antiquated” and “fairly offensive,” Iger said there are no plans for releasing “Song of the South” on DVD. ...

Well whether people agree with Disney's assesment or not, there's no denying that Disney does feel uncomfortable with Song of the South. The movie touches on subjects - slavery and the old South - that modern Disney wouldn't want to touch with a ten foot pole.

 

[Tom]

Clever Name's posts are quite...special. He either likes pulling people's legs just to get a reaction out of them or he's delusional...I can never decide which.

Tee are oh double el.

Let's put it this way: the Norway pavilion isn't the only place you'll find a Disney troll...

 

[Timekeeper]

We must also petition for the demolition of Tom Sawyer's Island. Highly offensive.

 

[Clever Name]

Again, I'd still like to know why it would be considered insensitive and fairly offensive.

The major problem with the Uncle Remus tales is that they were written by Joel Chandler Harris for the sole purpose of appealing to a white audience and becoming a commercial success. Harris specifically wrote so as to appeal to the aesthetics and prejudices of his white audience. He characterizes Uncle Remus as being totally loyal and obedient to his former slave master.

Harris states in the introduction to his first book that Remus, “--has nothing but pleasant memories of the discipline of slavery...." Remus is also characterized as a venerable person. The popularity of the Uncle Remus character among white audiences served to reinforce a negative stereotype.

You can download the books for free.

 

[ellie-badge]

The major problem with the Uncle Remus tales is that they were written by Joel Chandler Harris for the sole purpose of appealing to a white audience and becoming a commercial success. Harris specifically wrote so as to appeal to the aesthetics and prejudices of his white audience. He characterizes Uncle Remus as being totally loyal and obedient to his former slave master.

Harris states in the introduction to his first book that Remus, “--has nothing but pleasant memories of the discipline of slavery...." Remus is also characterized as a venerable person. The popularity of the Uncle Remus character among white audiences served to reinforce a negative stereotype.

You can download the books for free.

What about the film?

 

[Clever Name]

Have you ever actually seen the movie? I didn't find it insensitive at all.

Also, may I inquire as to why you think inserting Wall-E, a futuristic robot from the year 2805, would be perfectly acceptable in Frontierland?

Yes, I have seen the movie. I have a very good quality copy. The dialect is a real problem.

As for Wall-E, you could put a cowboy hat on him? How about we get the writers to work out a time warp or parallel universe angle? I like the parallel universe idea myself but I'm open to suggestions. Through the looking glass might work as well. A flying saucer landing in the old west has promise I think. I'm sure we can fit this in the theme without a problem. It's easier to fit this in the park than the idea of a happy slave.