Pre-Trip 2 Broke Guys (now with Table of Contents!)

Important note: First post edited 7/13/17 to make this odyssey easier to follow!

The reason is I started this pre-trip report over a year ago to help plan our most important trip ever (so far) our 10 year wedding anniversary trip.

However, we have AP's, and we took many short "side-trips" along the way. Rather than creating so many Trip Report threads and looking like a total egomaniac, I just added those mini-TR's into this same thread.

People have said it was hard to follow (I can see that.) Someone suggested putting a "table of contents" in the beginning. So that's what I'm doing. Then you can skip to the pages with the other trip reports, or just read the ones pertaining to "the big one" coming up in early September, 2017.

I will post that trip report separately when it finally happens, but will of course link to it here.

Speaking of linking here, here's a little background. This old post details our vow renewals a few years ago, for a very specific reason. If you haven't read my other trip reports or interacted with me very much on the boards, it kind of sets the stage for what's to come. Here's that link:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...orporate-disney-into-your-vow-renewal.903761/

What follows is the original first post (from 2/11/16) of this long, long thread. At the end of it, I'll put the table of contents to guide you through the rest of the thread.

I am sitting here in a hotel in Tampa, just an hour away from "home." And I'm thinking about it LOL. Oh, am I thinking about it.

When I'm "home home" - in Fort Lauderdale, I never have time to do more than some quick posts because I am always busy with work.

This is going to be a long-@ss pre-trip report.

Not necessarily this first post, but the report as a whole - by necessity, since the trip isn't until early September 2017. And I know I can use some help and advice in putting this all together - it's a very special trip - and have already begun organizing my thoughts based on discussions on this forum.

The basic premise is this: We are going to spend our 10-year wedding anniversary celebration at WDW, with the centerpiece of that trip to be the biggest dinner we can afford at Victoria & Albert's (hopefully the chef's table.) One of the things we enjoy most about Disney in our forties are the amazing meals at places like the Flying Fish Cafe and the Yachtsman's Steakhouse. I expect this meal will be at least as mind-blowing, but probably more.

The catch is - it costs a freaking fortune (at least to us.) I'm estimating something like $600 to $800 when all is said and done(?) And there is no way I could justify spending that much money on one meal.

Except...we have the Disney Chase Visa card, and have come to rely on this for our last several trips. This has opened doors to new experiences that we couldn't afford before. Instead of getting a 4-day ticket, we started getting AP's. Instead of staying off property, we started staying at Disney Moderates. And loved it!

And - we have a year off (sort of) to save up for this magical trip and important celebration. For the last several years, we've been getting the Florida Resident Weekday Select Annual Pass every other year, never two years in a row. I think it's good to go away and miss it for awhile, especially with all the work being done. Stay away for a year and come back to lots of little surprises. (Like those metal detectors! Ha!) They're fine. Anyway, that's the responsible side of me to say we shouldn't spend that much money every year. (We really shouldn't.)

But the advantage of that in this case is to amass Disney Chase Visa card points for months on end (sort of.) We used up all the rest of our points on our last short trip in January of 2016. But then at the end of the month, we earned more money. It's just sitting there...LOL.

Well, I made a deal with myself - if I can save up that $700 or $800 just in Chase points, then I can justify booking that meal at Victoria & Albert's. So that is the first goal. I know somebody will tell me when is the first day I can book it, and I will make a note on my phone so I don't forget LOL.

Based on January rewards being $146.50, I'm thinking this should be cake. (Mmm...cake...)

I'm not saving up for this September, but next September 2017. Total cake, right?!

Then we have to figure out where to stay. I'd like it to be our first Deluxe (possibly on the special floor with the extra goodies) and probably our first DVC rental. DVC Upside - real cost is less. Downside - can't pay for it with Disney Chase dollars LOL. That is funny, but it is a real consideration.

There's the obvious choice - to stay in the Grand Floridian to be where Victoria & Albert's is.

I don't know if that would be my favorite place in general.

I think my favorite place might be the Polynesian - I like the food & the vibe - and the walking into MK. I think that's a must on this trip - have to be able to walk to somewhere. That would include all of the Boardwalk area properties, which are fine with me as well.

Or AK with the Savannah view.

Then there's the corny and sentimental way - 10 years ago, our honeymoon was to Key West. They have a Key West DVC hotel. We love Olivia's. Somehow it doesn't seem big deal enough or have something special like a footpath to MK lol.

At the very least, a monorail resort, even if not walking distance, would be preferred.

Then we have to figure out whether or not to bring the dog or leave her home, drive or fly, diet for 6 months for the pictures LOL. Maybe this one and only trip would be worth memory maker?

I want to really blow it out - something we will never forget. Go for the upgrades. Pick the right tour or tours. So much to discuss!!

I will end each post in this saga like the parodied "2 Broke Girls" TV show, with the dollar amount of whatever they have left or have made at the end of the show, so you can see where they are in their goal.

So for example, tonight's would be:

$146.50

I'll add in any WDW Gift Cards I might buy or receive in the next year as part of what's saved up for that trip. My free BJ's trial period just expired, so I won't be getting any discounted GC's from them.

Now - the potential issue: there is no way we are not going to go to Disney in some way until September of 2017. We are toying with skipping our usual January or April trip in order to go full-on crazy in September.

But we are also toying with things like my dilemma as I sit here in this hotel with all this time to type. We're less than an hour away. I told this story in more detail at the end of my last trip report thread, so I'll just make it very short: Brian is working in Tampa from the end of January until the middle of February (over three weeks.) Yesterday I packed up our pup and drove up to visit, with our Valentine's Day gifts in tow (mostly specialty sugar-free chocolate dipped pretzels potato chips, oreos, plus peppermint bark, etc. We know we won't see each other for Valentine's Day, so basically tomorrow is it, unless I stay until Saturday morning.

Since no WDW trip was planned, I did not bring either my Tables In Wonderland card, or my Chase rewards gift card. But I called, and confirmed I could go to Guest Services and get another gift card (which of course can be loaded automatically.) There's a nice lunch reservation open. There's a spot for the pup at Best Friends Pet Care for 1/2 day care.

On the one hand - this would be something like a 45 minute to 1 hour drive for Brian from 12:30 to 1:30 to go to a special Disney lunch at 1:50, hang out for a bit, and then drive back 45 minutes to an hour to go to work by 4PM until 4AM. (I would have my own car, spend more money buying Disney records for my record store after lunch, go pick up the dog, and drive home to Fort Lauderdale.)

The other option is to drop the pup off at Petco in Tampa for a shampoo, and then hurry to whatever local restaurant is near that Petco, and meh.

Who would ever forget picking up and driving to WDW just for lunch for Valentine's Day (early) There's a fun story to remember when we're in our 60's LOL.

But it would already deplete our current total towards our V&A goal:

$146.50

OK, that was the first post of this whole thing. Now here comes the table of contents. Separate trip reports will be listed in bold. Regular stuff won't.

Posts 1-11 planning.
Posts 12-18: "The Blip Report" - a spur of the moment, one day drive over to the Yacht Club for Valentine's Day lunch at Captain's Grille (with dog.)
Posts 19-70 planning.
Posts 71-199 (page 4) pre-trip (back pain) & TR for 3-day quickie in September 2016 for Food & Wine (no dog, meeting Tuvalu, car trouble LOL) (skip it if you're only in for the anniversary trip!)
Posts 200-210 stuff. (starts bottom of page 10)
Posts 211-258-ish (begins page 11) "micro-trip" - had to go back up to get our car, might as well visit the Mouse!
Posts 258-ish to 276 planning.
Posts 277-283 (page 14) Pre-trip for almost Christmas at Saratoga Springs
Posts 284-331 planning, chit-chat, Thanksgiving
Posts 332-380 (page 17) That almost Christmas trip at Saratoga Springs
Posts 381-392 (Page 20) mostly chit-chat
Posts 393-561 (starts on page 20) (Several short trips back and forth since Brian had sporadic work in Orlando - all with dog!) Including Flower & Garden, Tiffins, more Tiffins, Valentine's Day again, RoL, and to confuse things, somwhere around #522 I'm at WDW but also planning the September 2017 trip (it was the 180 day mark for ADR's!)
Posts 562-569 chit chat
Posts 570-605 (page 29) - omg another quickie trip, Paddlefish
Posts 606-614 chit chat
Posts 615-657 (page 31) omg another trip - Wishes at Cali Grill (our last time seeing it)
Posts 658-694 chit chat, Record Store Day, Nashville
Posts 695- serious September planning!!

 
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BuddyThomas

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Mine are the L4-L5 and the L5-S1. The Ortho took a look at the old MRI yesterday and said, "You have a huge disc!" (Shut up, Buddy.) He proceeded: "It's really bulging out!" LOL. Anyway, the new MRI will show what, if anything has changed. I got no surgery either (so far!) I was incredibly afraid of it, and I know my Dad's several back surgeries made him worse every time - but that was the techniques used in the 70's and 80's. So back in 2005 when I was injured, no exaggeration, I was literally flat on the floor for 2 months until I could get an epidural injection. This was such a lesson in humility. I had to crawl into the doctor's office. I had to drive two blocks at a time, pull over, get out, lay flat on the ground wherever I may be, and then get back in the car for another two blocks. Ever crawl into a CVS and then all the way back to the pharmacy counter? I have. Also, I was single, so I had to ask my mother for a few hundred bucks to cover my rent. I never ask my mother for anything. That was crazy.

When I (for the first time) walked into the Doctor's office after my epidural, he said, "Don't get cocky, if you don't get surgery within a month or so, you'll be right back on the floor." That didn't make sense to me, and I just walked farther and farther every day, did hot/cold therapy on myself, ate nothing but simple foods (anti-inflammatory diet) plus extra pineapple (for bromelain) and never got the surgery.

It's possible I've gotten along without it as long as I could have. But actually my left side is feeling considerably better today. And my thoughtful cashier offered to work the whole day so I didn't have to go in this afternoon after all. That's really good because as anyone with this kind of back pain knows, once you aggravate it, it will probably stay aggravated for a good long while. By avoiding a car ride today, I reduce my chances of aggravating it. I'm just in bed with my heating pad and ice pack (and tens unit) and puppy. And meds. And TV. (That goes without saying.)
Sympathy like. That totally sucks. I pinched a nerve in my back at the gym a few years ago and it was some of the most intense pain ever. This sounds a hundred times worse than that. Hope it resolves itself before your trip. Get some rest!
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
@Tony the Tigger , sorry to hear about your medical condition, and I hope things get better in due course.

I've had PT in the past (at the time, it was for "frozen shoulder"). I know what you mean about questioning some of the positions and stretches that the physical therapists put you through. The positions/stretches can be painful in themselves, let alone the original reason why you went there in the first place. I can only suggest that if something is really not feeling right to you, ask the PT person to lessen the intensity. PT sessions take weeks, usually, and everyone handles it differently. So, I know this is basic, but listen to your own body and certainly voice any concerns you have with the physical therapist. The interesting thing about PT, is that it's a two-way relationship, versus just taking prescription medications that a doctor prescribes for you..
 

Tony the Tigger

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Original Poster
Unfortunately, both yesterday and today I woke up in much worse pain. Can no longer walk at all. Left foot going numb. And everything is closed until Tuesday unless I go to the emergency room.

Sorry – bummer post!
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Unfortunately, both yesterday and today I woke up in much worse pain. Can no longer walk at all. Left foot going numb. And everything is closed until Tuesday unless I go to the emergency room.

Sorry – bummer post!

Ugh. Hate it when bad things happen to good people. (I'm sure you've already thought of this, but every doctor has an answering service and there will be someone covering for your own doctor, if he or she is out of town for the weekend. Might not hurt to call their office and see if you can get someone to call you back.)
 

Tony the Tigger

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Original Poster
OK so last night I found an MD Now (walk-in clinic) that was open til 8PM and was determined to get there rather than suffering until Tuesday. I thought I would have to double up on the pain meds to make it over and just be extra careful driving - and find that heating pad/massage thingy that goes over the seat in my car. (Brian was working at the stadium from 9AM until after 2AM so he couldn't help.) I had been in bed the entire day, except when I crawled into the kitchen to feed Kylie and switch out my ice packs. (I tried walking first, got two steps past the bed, and had to jump right back into the bed and get the ice packs going again.)

Pardon the next sentence but before leaving to see the doctor, I used the restroom, and immediately afterwards the pain went down from a level 10 to a 5. Hallelujah! Excellent timing and interesting to note.

The doc was actually more thorough than my PCP or my orthopedist. Very patient, answered all my questions, didn't feel rushed, etc.

He gave me a different shot (Toradol?) for the pain and a stronger pain med, plus a refill on the muscle relaxer.

He also told me to sleep with a pillow under my back, which I thought was counter-intuitive, but it was more comfortable.

This morning, much improved. And the more I walk around the house, the better it feels. Haven't attempted sitting yet (other than the car last night.) I don't know how much of this is from the shot (which will wear off in a few days) so I'm just taking it easy for a few, and decided to close the store for Labor Day.

Left foot still feels like it's going numb. Left leg is very weak. But I'm much happier than I was yesterday!
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
OK so last night I found an MD Now (walk-in clinic) that was open til 8PM and was determined to get there rather than suffering until Tuesday. I thought I would have to double up on the pain meds to make it over and just be extra careful driving - and find that heating pad/massage thingy that goes over the seat in my car. (Brian was working at the stadium from 9AM until after 2AM so he couldn't help.) I had been in bed the entire day, except when I crawled into the kitchen to feed Kylie and switch out my ice packs. (I tried walking first, got two steps past the bed, and had to jump right back into the bed and get the ice packs going again.)

Pardon the next sentence but before leaving to see the doctor, I used the restroom, and immediately afterwards the pain went down from a level 10 to a 5. Hallelujah! Excellent timing and interesting to note.

The doc was actually more thorough than my PCP or my orthopedist. Very patient, answered all my questions, didn't feel rushed, etc.

He gave me a different shot (Toradol?) for the pain and a stronger pain med, plus a refill on the muscle relaxer.

He also told me to sleep with a pillow under my back, which I thought was counter-intuitive, but it was more comfortable.

This morning, much improved. And the more I walk around the house, the better it feels. Haven't attempted sitting yet (other than the car last night.) I don't know how much of this is from the shot (which will wear off in a few days) so I'm just taking it easy for a few, and decided to close the store for Labor Day.

Left foot still feels like it's going numb. Left leg is very weak. But I'm much happier than I was yesterday!

Now that it's midweek, how are you feeling? Did the dr. give you any sort of (approximate) timeframe for when the pain in your foot, etc. would go away? I hope you're doing a bit better now.
 

Tony the Tigger

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Original Poster
Now that it's midweek, how are you feeling? Did the dr. give you any sort of (approximate) timeframe for when the pain in your foot, etc. would go away? I hope you're doing a bit better now.

Meh. It's been a long week LOL. I'm walking much better. The left leg and especially foot still feel numb. I did go to PT yesterday and will go again tomorrow. They're being a lot more careful and focusing more on the spinal decompression and electrical treatments vs. certain exercises.

I have an MRI scheduled for Saturday afternoon. I presume there will be a follow-up with the orthopedist after that to determine whether to go with an epidural, surgery, or ?

I could still do Disney with some meds, and a lot of walking could be helpful.

Or we could end up postponing. If I end up getting the surgery, it may keep me from F&W altogether this year. Not going to complain - there are people with real problems out there beyond going to WDW sooner rather than later LOL. Today I'll just appreciate our 9 year anniversary and probably order in to avoid sitting in public LOL.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Meh. It's been a long week LOL. I'm walking much better. The left leg and especially foot still feel numb. I did go to PT yesterday and will go again tomorrow. They're being a lot more careful and focusing more on the spinal decompression and electrical treatments vs. certain exercises.

I have an MRI scheduled for Saturday afternoon. I presume there will be a follow-up with the orthopedist after that to determine whether to go with an epidural, surgery, or ?

I could still do Disney with some meds, and a lot of walking could be helpful.

Or we could end up postponing. If I end up getting the surgery, it may keep me from F&W altogether this year. Not going to complain - there are people with real problems out there beyond going to WDW sooner rather than later LOL. Today I'll just appreciate our 9 year anniversary and probably order in to avoid sitting in public LOL.

Just do what is best for your health and happiness. May I also take this opportunity to wish you a very happy anniversary!!
 

BuddyThomas

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Meh. It's been a long week LOL. I'm walking much better. The left leg and especially foot still feel numb. I did go to PT yesterday and will go again tomorrow. They're being a lot more careful and focusing more on the spinal decompression and electrical treatments vs. certain exercises.

I have an MRI scheduled for Saturday afternoon. I presume there will be a follow-up with the orthopedist after that to determine whether to go with an epidural, surgery, or ?

I could still do Disney with some meds, and a lot of walking could be helpful.

Or we could end up postponing. If I end up getting the surgery, it may keep me from F&W altogether this year. Not going to complain - there are people with real problems out there beyond going to WDW sooner rather than later LOL. Today I'll just appreciate our 9 year anniversary and probably order in to avoid sitting in public LOL.
This totally sucks, and I'm sorry to hear you are going through it.

If you have to postpone, Disney will probably refund everything without a penalty, even if you don't have insurance. They plopped all my money back in my bank account within 48 hours of my having to cancel due to Phil's grandmother dying in 2013.

You Hopefully it won't come to that for you but just in case....

Sending you good thoughts and wishes.
 

SSH

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Meh. It's been a long week LOL. I'm walking much better. The left leg and especially foot still feel numb. I did go to PT yesterday and will go again tomorrow. They're being a lot more careful and focusing more on the spinal decompression and electrical treatments vs. certain exercises.

I have an MRI scheduled for Saturday afternoon. I presume there will be a follow-up with the orthopedist after that to determine whether to go with an epidural, surgery, or ?

I could still do Disney with some meds, and a lot of walking could be helpful.

Or we could end up postponing. If I end up getting the surgery, it may keep me from F&W altogether this year. Not going to complain - there are people with real problems out there beyond going to WDW sooner rather than later LOL. Today I'll just appreciate our 9 year anniversary and probably order in to avoid sitting in public LOL.

What a great attitude. Happy anniversary. :cat::cat::cat:
 

Tony the Tigger

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Original Poster
Any update? Hope you're doing okay!

Well, been lovin your Key West report on fb - but no pics of Phil - did you really bring him?

So, we didn't even know for sure until today if this little trip would still happen.

I've been bouncing from Dr. to test to Dr. to Orthopedist to Neurologist to pain management. But overall I feel so much better than when this first started. My guess is I should be able to get away with an epidural injection to fix things like not being able to feel my left toes lol. But day to day function is fairly normal, with minimal meds, as long as I'm careful for now.

Brian now has to work on Sunday, so we won't be arriving until around 11pm. Had to cancel the ADR at Art Smith's. Although they may have a grab-n-go section open till midnight with a pork sandwich so hmmm...

We'll still have all day Monday reserved for Epcot - no dinner ADR, playing it by ear.

Tuesday MK and HS with the new Flying Fish for dinner.

Wake up and drive right back on Wednesday morning - Brian wants to get to work by 1pm, and I am getting sworn in to our local city's advisory board at 2pm. Then right back to physical therapy lol.

We'll make the most of those two days!! Could really use some fun.
 

Tony the Tigger

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You know what - we may get to Art Smith's after all. They are still taking ADR's up to and including 11pm on Sunday. I won't book just because leaving time and travel time can be so unpredictable - but if all goes as planned, we'll be easily on the road by 7 and arrive before 11. Brian will be dead tired but what else is new? I'll keep that option open and keep my expectations realistic.

Just woke up and walked Kylie around the block without any meds - good practice - in my new sneakers (they sneaker-shamed me at physical therapy LOL. But seriously, any traction on the bottom of those sneaks had completely worn down like bald tires. I had no idea, and I typically walk a lot - like an hour a day, most days.)

Brian is off today, so it's his day to pack. I have events at my store so will be popping in and out of there and picking up last minute things - bottled water, new dollar tree ponchos, etc.

And everyone living in the eastern third of the country should gas up early today! The oil spill will diminish 40% of the supply for the next several days, so some places are running out already and other places are jacking up prices.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Well, been lovin your Key West report on fb - but no pics of Phil - did you really bring him?

So, we didn't even know for sure until today if this little trip would still happen.

I've been bouncing from Dr. to test to Dr. to Orthopedist to Neurologist to pain management. But overall I feel so much better than when this first started. My guess is I should be able to get away with an epidural injection to fix things like not being able to feel my left toes lol. But day to day function is fairly normal, with minimal meds, as long as I'm careful for now.

Brian now has to work on Sunday, so we won't be arriving until around 11pm. Had to cancel the ADR at Art Smith's. Although they may have a grab-n-go section open till midnight with a pork sandwich so hmmm...

We'll still have all day Monday reserved for Epcot - no dinner ADR, playing it by ear.

Tuesday MK and HS with the new Flying Fish for dinner.
Wake up and drive right back on Wednesday morning - Brian wants to get to work by 1pm, and I am getting sworn in to our local city's advisory board at 2pm. Then right back to physical therapy lol.

We'll make the most of those two days!! Could really use some fun.


Thrilled to hear that the trip is ON!!! So glad that you're feeling better--at least enough for a few days at WDW.
 

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