Pre-Trip 2 Broke Guys (now with Table of Contents!)

Important note: First post edited 7/13/17 to make this odyssey easier to follow!

The reason is I started this pre-trip report over a year ago to help plan our most important trip ever (so far) our 10 year wedding anniversary trip.

However, we have AP's, and we took many short "side-trips" along the way. Rather than creating so many Trip Report threads and looking like a total egomaniac, I just added those mini-TR's into this same thread.

People have said it was hard to follow (I can see that.) Someone suggested putting a "table of contents" in the beginning. So that's what I'm doing. Then you can skip to the pages with the other trip reports, or just read the ones pertaining to "the big one" coming up in early September, 2017.

I will post that trip report separately when it finally happens, but will of course link to it here.

Speaking of linking here, here's a little background. This old post details our vow renewals a few years ago, for a very specific reason. If you haven't read my other trip reports or interacted with me very much on the boards, it kind of sets the stage for what's to come. Here's that link:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...orporate-disney-into-your-vow-renewal.903761/

What follows is the original first post (from 2/11/16) of this long, long thread. At the end of it, I'll put the table of contents to guide you through the rest of the thread.

I am sitting here in a hotel in Tampa, just an hour away from "home." And I'm thinking about it LOL. Oh, am I thinking about it.

When I'm "home home" - in Fort Lauderdale, I never have time to do more than some quick posts because I am always busy with work.

This is going to be a long-@ss pre-trip report.

Not necessarily this first post, but the report as a whole - by necessity, since the trip isn't until early September 2017. And I know I can use some help and advice in putting this all together - it's a very special trip - and have already begun organizing my thoughts based on discussions on this forum.

The basic premise is this: We are going to spend our 10-year wedding anniversary celebration at WDW, with the centerpiece of that trip to be the biggest dinner we can afford at Victoria & Albert's (hopefully the chef's table.) One of the things we enjoy most about Disney in our forties are the amazing meals at places like the Flying Fish Cafe and the Yachtsman's Steakhouse. I expect this meal will be at least as mind-blowing, but probably more.

The catch is - it costs a freaking fortune (at least to us.) I'm estimating something like $600 to $800 when all is said and done(?) And there is no way I could justify spending that much money on one meal.

Except...we have the Disney Chase Visa card, and have come to rely on this for our last several trips. This has opened doors to new experiences that we couldn't afford before. Instead of getting a 4-day ticket, we started getting AP's. Instead of staying off property, we started staying at Disney Moderates. And loved it!

And - we have a year off (sort of) to save up for this magical trip and important celebration. For the last several years, we've been getting the Florida Resident Weekday Select Annual Pass every other year, never two years in a row. I think it's good to go away and miss it for awhile, especially with all the work being done. Stay away for a year and come back to lots of little surprises. (Like those metal detectors! Ha!) They're fine. Anyway, that's the responsible side of me to say we shouldn't spend that much money every year. (We really shouldn't.)

But the advantage of that in this case is to amass Disney Chase Visa card points for months on end (sort of.) We used up all the rest of our points on our last short trip in January of 2016. But then at the end of the month, we earned more money. It's just sitting there...LOL.

Well, I made a deal with myself - if I can save up that $700 or $800 just in Chase points, then I can justify booking that meal at Victoria & Albert's. So that is the first goal. I know somebody will tell me when is the first day I can book it, and I will make a note on my phone so I don't forget LOL.

Based on January rewards being $146.50, I'm thinking this should be cake. (Mmm...cake...)

I'm not saving up for this September, but next September 2017. Total cake, right?!

Then we have to figure out where to stay. I'd like it to be our first Deluxe (possibly on the special floor with the extra goodies) and probably our first DVC rental. DVC Upside - real cost is less. Downside - can't pay for it with Disney Chase dollars LOL. That is funny, but it is a real consideration.

There's the obvious choice - to stay in the Grand Floridian to be where Victoria & Albert's is.

I don't know if that would be my favorite place in general.

I think my favorite place might be the Polynesian - I like the food & the vibe - and the walking into MK. I think that's a must on this trip - have to be able to walk to somewhere. That would include all of the Boardwalk area properties, which are fine with me as well.

Or AK with the Savannah view.

Then there's the corny and sentimental way - 10 years ago, our honeymoon was to Key West. They have a Key West DVC hotel. We love Olivia's. Somehow it doesn't seem big deal enough or have something special like a footpath to MK lol.

At the very least, a monorail resort, even if not walking distance, would be preferred.

Then we have to figure out whether or not to bring the dog or leave her home, drive or fly, diet for 6 months for the pictures LOL. Maybe this one and only trip would be worth memory maker?

I want to really blow it out - something we will never forget. Go for the upgrades. Pick the right tour or tours. So much to discuss!!

I will end each post in this saga like the parodied "2 Broke Girls" TV show, with the dollar amount of whatever they have left or have made at the end of the show, so you can see where they are in their goal.

So for example, tonight's would be:

$146.50

I'll add in any WDW Gift Cards I might buy or receive in the next year as part of what's saved up for that trip. My free BJ's trial period just expired, so I won't be getting any discounted GC's from them.

Now - the potential issue: there is no way we are not going to go to Disney in some way until September of 2017. We are toying with skipping our usual January or April trip in order to go full-on crazy in September.

But we are also toying with things like my dilemma as I sit here in this hotel with all this time to type. We're less than an hour away. I told this story in more detail at the end of my last trip report thread, so I'll just make it very short: Brian is working in Tampa from the end of January until the middle of February (over three weeks.) Yesterday I packed up our pup and drove up to visit, with our Valentine's Day gifts in tow (mostly specialty sugar-free chocolate dipped pretzels potato chips, oreos, plus peppermint bark, etc. We know we won't see each other for Valentine's Day, so basically tomorrow is it, unless I stay until Saturday morning.

Since no WDW trip was planned, I did not bring either my Tables In Wonderland card, or my Chase rewards gift card. But I called, and confirmed I could go to Guest Services and get another gift card (which of course can be loaded automatically.) There's a nice lunch reservation open. There's a spot for the pup at Best Friends Pet Care for 1/2 day care.

On the one hand - this would be something like a 45 minute to 1 hour drive for Brian from 12:30 to 1:30 to go to a special Disney lunch at 1:50, hang out for a bit, and then drive back 45 minutes to an hour to go to work by 4PM until 4AM. (I would have my own car, spend more money buying Disney records for my record store after lunch, go pick up the dog, and drive home to Fort Lauderdale.)

The other option is to drop the pup off at Petco in Tampa for a shampoo, and then hurry to whatever local restaurant is near that Petco, and meh.

Who would ever forget picking up and driving to WDW just for lunch for Valentine's Day (early) There's a fun story to remember when we're in our 60's LOL.

But it would already deplete our current total towards our V&A goal:

$146.50

OK, that was the first post of this whole thing. Now here comes the table of contents. Separate trip reports will be listed in bold. Regular stuff won't.

Posts 1-11 planning.
Posts 12-18: "The Blip Report" - a spur of the moment, one day drive over to the Yacht Club for Valentine's Day lunch at Captain's Grille (with dog.)
Posts 19-70 planning.
Posts 71-199 (page 4) pre-trip (back pain) & TR for 3-day quickie in September 2016 for Food & Wine (no dog, meeting Tuvalu, car trouble LOL) (skip it if you're only in for the anniversary trip!)
Posts 200-210 stuff. (starts bottom of page 10)
Posts 211-258-ish (begins page 11) "micro-trip" - had to go back up to get our car, might as well visit the Mouse!
Posts 258-ish to 276 planning.
Posts 277-283 (page 14) Pre-trip for almost Christmas at Saratoga Springs
Posts 284-331 planning, chit-chat, Thanksgiving
Posts 332-380 (page 17) That almost Christmas trip at Saratoga Springs
Posts 381-392 (Page 20) mostly chit-chat
Posts 393-561 (starts on page 20) (Several short trips back and forth since Brian had sporadic work in Orlando - all with dog!) Including Flower & Garden, Tiffins, more Tiffins, Valentine's Day again, RoL, and to confuse things, somwhere around #522 I'm at WDW but also planning the September 2017 trip (it was the 180 day mark for ADR's!)
Posts 562-569 chit chat
Posts 570-605 (page 29) - omg another quickie trip, Paddlefish
Posts 606-614 chit chat
Posts 615-657 (page 31) omg another trip - Wishes at Cali Grill (our last time seeing it)
Posts 658-694 chit chat, Record Store Day, Nashville
Posts 695- serious September planning!!

 
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MinnieM123

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I'm all over the place but psychotic!

Fixed that for you. :hilarious:

Hey, your dinner plans sound really diversified and interesting. I love hearing about restaurants I haven't been to. Also, I think it's a riot that you're planning on emailing your bartender at the Tune In Lounge to find out her schedule! (As you know I also like that place for lunch at the bar--it's a "must do" from now on for any time I visit WDW.)

The rest of your prelminary schedule sounds fun, too.
 

Tony the Tigger

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Fixed that for you. :hilarious:

Hey, your dinner plans sound really diversified and interesting. I love hearing about restaurants I haven't been to. Also, I think it's a riot that you're planning on emailing your bartender at the Tune In Lounge to find out her schedule! (As you know I also like that place for lunch at the bar--it's a "must do" from now on for any time I visit WDW.)

The rest of your prelminary schedule sounds fun, too.

Got her schedule. And our bartender at Flying Fish via Facebook messaging LOL.

Thing is: they're both off Monday and both working late shifts Tuesday. My poor liver! @BuddyThomas do you carry a spare? Can you get a spare liver through security?

Working on the scheduling puzzle - it's a short trip.

Welcome aboard, @SSH !
 

Tony the Tigger

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Booked Flying Fish for Tuesday - 9:25PM again lol. This time they did have 2 earlier times, but I want to do the Star Wars fireworks at 8:15 first. We always want food again after park closing, anyway, and usually end up with 7-11 pizza or WDW pizza or something. So let's end the night on a high note. Hmmm...and maybe Swan karaoke?

There goes that budget, @Tuvalu !

So we won't go again until January. Rationalization - yeah, that'll work!
 

Tony the Tigger

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I guess my TR title is misleading now, because this upcoming trip is not the V&A trip. (Neither will be the next two trips LOL.) But I like to keep things all tidy on one thread.

So I know we're doing DS on Sunday, including dinner at Art Smith's.

Based on all available data, it looks like Monday will be a flexible Epcot day for the whole day, most likely with a nap in the afternoon. Air Supply at night. Hoping for the Frozen & Soarin FP's. No formal dinner planned, can easily fill up on bites and what not. Nice, laid back day, no rushing around.

Tuesday will be MK in the AM (possibly our first rope drop? One can "dream" LOL) then nap, then evening at HS, Tune-In lounge, Star Wars fireworks, dinner at FF. Possible karaoke at the Swan/Dolphin (I always forget which.)

Wednesday morning I will not plan, but it may be open for AK (our red-headed stepchild) unless we want to do a repeat of something or still haven't gotten a certain FP, etc.

Also gotta restock my records!

And that's it - planning is done other than booking a handful of FP's. Now hurry up and wait...
 

Tony the Tigger

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My bf & I are staying in the BoardWalk Villas Sept. 18th - 25th for my semi annual b-day trip visit. Maybe we'll run into you at Abracadabar before your dinner at Flying Fish?! Enjoying following your planning adventure. :0)

That could work! We want to check that out - there is also a bar inside FF proper.

Only thing is we will be coming from HS Star Wars fireworks - they start at 8:15, I have no idea what time they end, and then we have to get over to the boardwalk in time for the 9:20ish ADR
 

dizfan917

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That could work! We want to check that out - there is also a bar inside FF proper.

Only thing is we will be coming from HS Star Wars fireworks - they start at 8:15, I have no idea what time they end, and then we have to get over to the boardwalk in time for the 9:20ish ADR

Star Wars fireworks are on our itinerary that night as well! Maybe we'll run into each other in HS! I suppose it might be tough to insure that you'd make your reservation with a stop in between for a cocktail and lively conversation. :0)
 

Tony the Tigger

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Star Wars fireworks are on our itinerary that night as well! Maybe we'll run into each other in HS! I suppose it might be tough to insure that you'd make your reservation with a stop in between for a cocktail and lively conversation. :0)

I can see this cosmically working out one way or another LOL. We'll be at HS first - maybe meet at the Tune-In Lounge before the fireworks? Love that place. (The bar connected to the Prime Time 50's Cafe. "The drinking uncles" of the family atmosphere, if you will. LOL.)
 

bee

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We are totes into the celebrity chef restaurants at Disney and elsewhere! We're hoping to try Rick Bayless' place at Disney Springs in the near future.

Hoping for the Frozen & Soarin FP's
Frozin' and Soarin' are both in Tier 1 so you'll have to pick one or the other if you want to do them the same day.:( Maybe you can FP Frozin' and either rope drop Soarin' or watch wait times on your phone and hope for the best?
 

Tony the Tigger

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...and we may have @Tuvalu on board for Air Supply on 9/19!!
We are totes into the celebrity chef restaurants at Disney and elsewhere! We're hoping to try Rick Bayless' place at Disney Springs in the near future.


Frozin' and Soarin' are both in Tier 1 so you'll have to pick one or the other if you want to do them the same day.:( Maybe you can FP Frozin' and either rope drop Soarin' or watch wait times on your phone and hope for the best?

So far unsuccessful getting Frozen. Got Soarin. Will try once in awhile (especially the day before/day of) to switch it to Frozen.

We have never done rope drop! It might happen on Tuesday at MK, depending if I can wake Brian up LOL. He will sleep til 11 if I let him. (meanwhile I'm up at 5AM - "are they open yet? are they open yet?"
 

Tuvalu

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Apparently we read the same crowd calendars. :D

We could have a party with @dizfan917 at the Tune-In! (Julie pours the best-est-est.)
Actually I am just tagging along on a family trip and my mom set the schedule a few months ago. They have a 5 pm ADR at Hollywood and Vine and if the restaurant can't accommodate me (we tried to add me to the ADR without success) I will need a place to hang out...perhaps Tune In?
 

Tony the Tigger

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Actually I am just tagging along on a family trip and my mom set the schedule a few months ago. They have a 5 pm ADR at Hollywood and Vine and if the restaurant can't accommodate me (we tried to add me to the ADR without success) I will need a place to hang out...perhaps Tune In?

Tune In is awesome. Sit at the bar and order anything from 50's Prime Time menu. We'll shoot for 5-ish (probably a little sooner but we've been known to hang out for 2 hours or more lol. Our "real dinner" isn't until 9:30PM at Flying Fish.

Packing in a bunch of stuff in those 2 1/2 days, turns out we have to leave early Wednesday morning so Brian can work that afternoon. (yikes.)
 

Tony the Tigger

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OK updates:

Previous balance $399.95

August Chase Visa points: $77.97 (a little low, but OK.)

But wait - there's more! Bday presents from yesterday:
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Sorry, a little blurry. Anyway, I guess Brian thinks I won't spend the plain Visa card at Disney. (Duh! Who am I?)

Now the downside which I think is going to work itself out: While Brian's back is getting better since surgery, mine has gotten worse. I had a pretty bad disc herniation back in 2005 that left me unable to get up off the floor for 2 months. Eventually an epidural and months of my own self-determined physical therapy routine took care of that without getting surgery (which every doctor who sees my MRI from 2005 says is pretty remarkable.)

The thing is, it's a fragile recovery, and I've learned over the years how to avoid aggravating it, and how to handle it if I accidentally aggravate it.

Around July 4th, I noticed a tingling "falling asleep" feeling in my right arm, and weakness in that arm when I tried to do presses at the gym. After a few weeks, I started going to real physical therapy, because this was a new thing and I didn't know how to fix it. I made mention of my back, especially so they knew not to do anything serious to my lower back or I could end up out of commission for a couple of weeks.

I love the physical therapy place, they also have chiropractors, etc., Brian has gone for years and they love him and every staff member kept asking me about him when I went the first time. An X-ray of my neck showed some abnormalities, and they started me on stretching exercises, neck adjustments, and a machine that stretches the vertebrae in your neck. This was very effective and that particular issue is 98% resolved. (yay!)

But there were some questionable moves which I think led to where I am now. Namely, one woman had me lay on my back, and she would take one of my legs and push it backwards with all her weight in order to stretch my hamstrings. Another was basically doing reverse leg lifts. They didn't so much "hurt" at the time, but I got a little concerned, and started getting pain from my lower back down my left leg. (Historically the pain has always been on my right side.) It got a little worse Saturday, a little worse Sunday...

Woke up Monday in a lot of pain. The worst pain was in the car driving to my primary care doctor. It was a "9" on a scale of 1 to 10.

Got a steroid shot, helped a little but not touching the worst part of the pain. Went back the next day and got a referral for an orthopedist and some not very strong but effective pain meds. Wasting no time, I saw the orthopedist yesterday. He gave me the oral steroid pack and a prescription for an MRI. MRI is scheduled for the Thursday before our Disney trip (they can only do it on Thursdays because I specially requested the open MRI (I am too claustrophobic to go into a tube) and my insurance has an odd requirement that an MD be on the premises for the MRI (which they only do on Thursdays.) But she said they get a lot of cancellations, so they may be able to call me in a week earlier (which would be one week from today. Probably not today because they have to do a lot of paperwork first with the insurance company.)

I'm hoping this will just settle down by then - I'm taking bunches of meds, stretching, etc. and mostly laying flat because it's my only chance at virtually no pain - laying down with either an ice pack or my heating pad. Standing up is painful, although gets less painful after I walk around a bit. Sitting is excruciating (as it was back in 2005.) But I am noticing a bit of improvement each day since Monday. I can function. I'm going in to the store today to work a short shift, and I can stand up most of the time. I did have to turn down Brian's "take me out to dinner for my bday" invite last night because I was afraid I couldn't sit all the way through the dinner.

Either way, whatever we determine from the MRI, I'm not getting an epidural or surgery before our trip LOL. But the two of us will be wobble-walking like Weebles around Epcot LOL!! "Does your back hurt?" "Yes." "Let's get a drink from Australia!" "Let's." (in lieu of meds LOL.)

If it's this bad a few days before we are scheduled to go (I don't think it will be but) we may have to push the trip back to November/December. Ack. I just realized how many attractions involve sitting.

Thinking positively, the new total:

$627.32
 
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Tony the Tigger

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Aw, man, I feel your pain (literally--I've herniated L5 twice and recovered without surgery). I have a standing desk, and that's helped amazingly well with back discomfort. Good luck!

Mine are the L4-L5 and the L5-S1. The Ortho took a look at the old MRI yesterday and said, "You have a huge disc!" (Shut up, Buddy.) He proceeded: "It's really bulging out!" LOL. Anyway, the new MRI will show what, if anything has changed. I got no surgery either (so far!) I was incredibly afraid of it, and I know my Dad's several back surgeries made him worse every time - but that was the techniques used in the 70's and 80's. So back in 2005 when I was injured, no exaggeration, I was literally flat on the floor for 2 months until I could get an epidural injection. This was such a lesson in humility. I had to crawl into the doctor's office. I had to drive two blocks at a time, pull over, get out, lay flat on the ground wherever I may be, and then get back in the car for another two blocks. Ever crawl into a CVS and then all the way back to the pharmacy counter? I have. Also, I was single, so I had to ask my mother for a few hundred bucks to cover my rent. I never ask my mother for anything. That was crazy.

When I (for the first time) walked into the Doctor's office after my epidural, he said, "Don't get cocky, if you don't get surgery within a month or so, you'll be right back on the floor." That didn't make sense to me, and I just walked farther and farther every day, did hot/cold therapy on myself, ate nothing but simple foods (anti-inflammatory diet) plus extra pineapple (for bromelain) and never got the surgery.

It's possible I've gotten along without it as long as I could have. But actually my left side is feeling considerably better today. And my thoughtful cashier offered to work the whole day so I didn't have to go in this afternoon after all. That's really good because as anyone with this kind of back pain knows, once you aggravate it, it will probably stay aggravated for a good long while. By avoiding a car ride today, I reduce my chances of aggravating it. I'm just in bed with my heating pad and ice pack (and tens unit) and puppy. And meds. And TV. (That goes without saying.)
 

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