1986 monorail fire

[scottnj1966]

1985 monorail fire

Does anyone have a scan of the picture from the Orlando Sentinal that actually had a picture of the burned cab of the monorial June 25th 1985 ( I think that was the date)
No one was hurt, well except the Orlando Sentinal for putting it in the paper.

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[Legacy]

I never even knew about this. I want to see this.

(Side note: I originally thought your subject said Monorail FARE... I was like, "They use to charge?")

 

[MKCP 1985]

I was working the day that happened. It made the local television coverage, too. I seem to recall they had news video of people being evacuated via a cherry picker type machine. I don't think anyone was injured, thank goodness.

 

[Jenngusto]

I have never even heard of this, does anyone have more info?!?

 

[Mickeyrulz]

Ditto-- never heard of this.

 

[boo52]

It was this one event that Disney decided to install the Alison Heat Detection systems in all the Mark IV trains. The Mark VI trains had them built into the design. But the Mark IV's were retrofitted. And BTW I believe the fire was in Mark IV Silver.

 

[speck76]

In 1986 a Mark IV monorail (silver) caught on fire. The back two cars were burned badly. The cars were occupied, but everyone got off of the train okay. The train was on the Epcot beam south of the Magic Kingdom toll plaza. There was a side tire failure and the fragments from that tire lodged in the skirts where they eventually caught fire.

Now there are beam contact sensors that will indicate when a side tire blows and a heat detection system that alerts the driver before things can get too hot in critical areas.

 

[scottnj1966]

from the orlando sentinal free clips you can buy the full articles at there site

200 ESCAPE FIRE ABOARD MONORAIL DISNEY WORLD PASSENGERS CLIMB TO SAFETY ON ROOF; [3 STAR Edition]
Bob Levenson of The Sentinel Staff. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Jun 27, 1985. pg. A.1

Companies: Disney Enterprises Inc (NAICS: 337125 )
Dateline: LAKE BUENA VISTA
Section: A SECTION
Text Word Count 529

Abstract (Article Summary)
Firefighters inspect burned-out car . . . passengers avoided smoke, flames by climbing onto roof. VICTOR JUNCO SENTINEL Fire engulfs rear of Disney monorail . . . visitor from New York took picture shortly after 9 p.m. PHOTO/VIDAL MEDINA Flames engulfed last car of 6-car train between Epcot Center and Magic Kingdom. VICTOR JUNCO SENTINEL Firefighters help passenger from cherry picker after rescue. VICTOR JUNCO ...


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DISNEY FIRE: 'IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE'; [3 STAR Edition]
Prakash Gandhi of The Sentinel Staff. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Jun 28, 1985. pg. A.1

Companies: Disney Enterprises Inc (NAICS: 337125 ) , Walt Disney World (NAICS: 713110, Sic:7996, 7033, 7011, 5812, Duns:04-975-9814 )
Section: A SECTION
Text Word Count 1106

Abstract (Article Summary)
PHOTO (c): Curtain hides fire-damaged portion of train in Disney's monorail barn Thursday. RED HUBER SENTINEL Burned-out monorail car sits on track Wednesday night . . . many passengers escaped by climbing onto roof of the train. VICTOR JUNCO SENTINEL Monorail passenger jumps from crane Wednesday night . . . firefighters used equipment to pluck people from top of cars. VICTOR JUNCO SENTINEL

MONORAIL FIRE BEGAN IN WHEEL, STATE SAYS OFFICIALS DON'T KNOW CAUSE OF BLAZE THAT SLIGHTLY INJURED 7 RIDERS AT DISNEY; [3 STAR Edition]
Louis Trager of The Sentinel Staff. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Jun 29, 1985. pg. D.1

Companies: Disney Enterprises Inc (NAICS: 337125 ) , Walt Disney World (NAICS: 713110, Sic:7996, 7033, 7011, 5812, Duns:04-975-9814 )
Section: LOCAL/STATE
Text Word Count 467

Abstract (Article Summary)
The wheel is made of rubber and filled with insulation material, said Tom Moses, director of the Reedy Creek Improvement District, which provides services to Disney World. He would not comment on the monorail's inspection record or on [David Voss]' statement that the fire started in the wheel.

REPORT BLAMES TIRE FRICTION FOR FIRE ON DISNEY MONORAIL; [3 STAR Edition]
Louis Trager of The Sentinel Staff. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Jul 4, 1985. pg. D.1

Companies: Walt Disney World (NAICS: 713110, Sic:7996, 7033, 7011, 5812, Duns:04-975-9814 )
Section: LOCAL/STATE
Text Word Count 579

Abstract (Article Summary)
The tires look like automobile tires, only smaller, [Tom Moses] said. He said the guide tire is solid rubber. The safety tire that is supposed to back up the guide tire is filled rubber. Moses and Disney spokesman [John Dreyer] said they don't know what the filling is.

MONORAIL'S FIRE BLAMED ON FLAT TIRES CAUSE OF DISNEY TRAIN MALFUNCTION NOT FOUND; [FLORIDA Edition]
Louis Trager of The Sentinel Staff. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Jul 4, 1985. pg. A.1

Companies: Walt Disney World (NAICS: 713110, Sic:7996, 7033, 7011, 5812, Duns:04-975-9814 )
Section: A SECTION
Text Word Count 584

Abstract (Article Summary)
The tires look like automobile tires, only smaller, [Tom Moses] said. He said the guide tire is solid rubber. The safety tire that is supposed to back up the guide tire is filled rubber. Moses and Disney spokesman [John Dreyer] said they don't know what the filling is.






NEW SUIT OVER FIRE HITS DISNEY SISTERS CLAIM DISTRESS IN '85 MONORAIL BLAZE; [3 Star Edition]
Mike Oliver of The Sentinel Staff. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Jun 23, 1989. pg. C.1

Companies: Disney Enterprises Inc (NAICS: 337125 ) , Occupational Safety & Health Administration (NAICS: 926150 ) , Walt Disney World (NAICS: 713110, Sic:7996, 7033, 7011, 5812, Duns:04-975-9814 )
Section: LOCAL/STATE
Text Word Count 1037

Abstract (Article Summary)
In the wake of the fire, the suit contends, Disney conducted tests on the toxicity of fumes emitted by the burning monorail, and studies on fire protection in the monorail cars.

 

[speck76]

This even also triggered a media standoff between the Orlando Sentinel and the Walt Disney World Company over pictures published of the charred monorail in the next day's paper. Putting this diplomatically, no media service in Central Florida has since published an unfavorable story about the Company. More information about the fire can be purchased from the Orlando Sentinel Website in their archives.

That is not true. The problem with the Orlando Sentinel is that they tend to sensationalize their stories.....I have never seen a paper with so many corrections posted, nor one that publishes so many stories that are based on rumors.

The Sentinel does know who pays the bills though. A few years ago, they kept running stories on the front page about how we should add to the tourist tax and basically make the tourists pay for more schools in Orange County. Since the paper is given to guests by many hotels in the area, many hotels, including the hotels that I work with (which has around 10,000 rooms in the city) threatened to stop distributing the paper if the negative tourism stories continued.

 

[scottnj1966]

Its true

It is true and I saw the picture once but I do not have it anywhere. i have looked for it.
That is why I started searching for it online.

You can actually buy the full articles from the sentinal.
I am trying to find out if it includes the pictures also.

 

[Legacy]

That is not true. The problem with the Orlando Sentinel is that they tend to sensationalize their stories.....I have never seen a paper with so many corrections posted, nor one that publishes so many stories that are based on rumors.

The Sentinel does know who pays the bills though. A few years ago, they kept running stories on the front page about how we should add to the tourist tax and basically make the tourists pay for more schools in Orange County. Since the paper is given to guests by many hotels in the area, many hotels, including the hotels that I work with (which has around 10,000 rooms in the city) threatened to stop distributing the paper if the negative tourism stories continued.

Ah... the Orlando Slantinel

 

[lamarvenoy]

The Orlando Sentinal was the paper that broke the story of Disney coming to Florida and they were biased toward Disney initially but I don't think they are as much as they once were. Although it is a real paper it seems to be very "entertainment" based with more stories about garbage than real news. I like a more factual even a little dry paper. Speck is right LOTS of rumors-

 

[scottnj1966]

So far no luck on the picture

I have had numerous contacts but nothing yet.
If I do get my hands on it I will post it here.

The newpaper is like all others. They do and say what there owners want.
All I care is to see the picture. I dont read it.

 

[scottnj1966]

more info

Real incidents do occasionally occu...re things can get too hot in critical areas. http://www.mcjackie.com/monorail.html

Real incidents do occasionally occur, however. One night during the summer in 1985 a Mark IV monorail caught on fire. The back two cars were burned badly. The cars were occupied, but everyone got off of the train okay. The train was on the Epcot beam south of the Magic Kingdom toll plaza. As I understand it, there was a side tire failure and the fragments from that tire lodged in the skirts where they eventually caught fire. Now there are beam contact sensors that will indicate when a side tire blows and a heat detection system that alerts the driver before things can get too hot in critical areas.

Reportedly, the burned rail is still visible, though just barely, where the fire and melting plastic left its mark.

 

[scottnj1966]

no luck on monorail fire pic

Have not had any luck finding it again. It may be gone for good.

01-29-2006
Still no luck findng that picture.
Anyone else find it yet?

 

[scottnj1966]

Hate to open an old thread but I thought I would share this with everyone.

 

[PBarton]

Hate to open an old thread but I thought I would share this with everyone.

 

[Jessie&Buzz]

Hate to open an old thread but I thought I would share this with everyone.

Oh wow! That had to be scary to be on.

 

[Since1976]

Gee, scottnj1966!

I see you were the original poster...Did it take you 3 years to find that pic?!?! You are one diligent guy. Props to finding your original thread too!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Wow,That's terrible.

I never knew about this.