“Something major” coming to DHS???

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doctornick

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DisneyDodo said:
If Disney wants to do something in Animation Courtyard (and I’m not convinced it’s quite as imminent as some are suggesting), there’s a lot of ways they can go in terms of scale. On one end of the spectrum, they could just replace Launch Bay with something more substantial. On the other, they could build a huge new land (or 2) spanning from WDP all the way to LMRA (which would include the demolition or retheming of RnRC). Basically all of the backstage utilities there can be relocated if desired. Most likely, we’d end up with something in between those extremes.
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To me, the main reason to look at the Animation building footprint for any addition (besides the fact that Launch Bay is pretty meh and unnecessary) is that you need to connect that area to the RNR area to improve guest flow at the park. It is far from idea having Sunset Blvd being a dead end and doing any outer loop by connecting Animation and RNR would make it much easier to move around the park.
 
DisneyDodo

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RobbinsDad said:
Which is why if it's a new land coming to DHS, and it's behind Launch Bay, Carsland makes the most sense. You already have the LMRA attraction. It would also be relatively easy to retheme RNRC to Cars.
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That would definitely be the easiest route, but I would prefer they go in a different direction. The biggest appeals of Carsland in DCA are the breathtaking rock work and RSR, so an indoor show and rethemed indoor coaster wouldn’t provide comparable value. And if they were to add RSR in addition, that would mean 2 somewhat thrilling E-tickets for an IP that skews younger in a park that desperately needs kid-friendly options.
 
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doctornick

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There's no reason to change RNR. If they want to use a different artist but the same general ride, okay, but otherwise it's a perfectly fine ride. Just make a new land on the Animation building footprint - Launch Bay and the offices alone plus the space next to it leading to RNR is a sizeable footprint; if they can relocate the other backstage buildings and use more space that's great too. It's stupid to waste money in changing RNR substantially to another theme when the park needs additional capacity.

Ideally whatever land they build in the area would have multiple new rides to increase the total count at DHS. DHS is actually fine with headliners but needs a lot of complimentary attractions to provide offerings. A big problem at DHS is that a lot of the supplemental attractions are shows with set times (as opposed to continuously running things) so they cannot be experienced on a whim.
 
PREMiERdrum

PREMiERdrum

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There is no congruence in trying to themeatically tie any proposed expansion (planned but not approved AFAIK) to the RnR and Sunset Showcase courtyard.

In fact, it's likely that Sunset Showcase is hosting a completely different experience by the time this would take place. LMRA was never intended to be a permanent resident - one of the planned advantages of the Showcase was adaptability to different content as demands change.
 
Marc Davis Fan

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doctornick said:
To me, the main reason to look at the Animation building footprint for any addition (besides the fact that Launch Bay is pretty meh and unnecessary) is that you need to connect that area to the RNR area to improve guest flow at the park. It is far from ideal having Sunset Blvd being a dead end and doing any outer loop by connecting Animation and RNR would make it much easier to move around the park.
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I think the only downside (but a significant one, IMHO) of connecting Animation Courtyard and RNR is it would mean that - for many guests, especially first-timers - the Tower of Terror experience will be diminished by not having the "approach" experience of seeing it from a distance at the end of Sunset and getting slowly closer, etc. I hope they'd consider instead creating a route from Animation Courtyard that enters Sunset where the center of Sunset Ranch Market currently stands - as at least that would maintain *some* of the "approach experience" for everyone.

doctornick said:
There's no reason to change RNR. If they want to use a different artist but the same general ride, okay, but otherwise it's a perfectly fine ride.
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To add a caveat, which I expect you already agree with: the "bones" of the ride are fine, but the gravity building sets were never Disney-quality. Everything works great until you enter the "alley," at which point you move from something that feels real to an obvious "this is a roller coaster train pretending to be a car" without much room for suspension of disbelief - which would work fine at an amusement park, but less so in a theme park.* And then, of course, the flat cartoon sets are the biggest offenders. Disney realized all this as well, and the WDSP version cleverly solves the problems by making it "auto-themed" (i.e., "this is a roller coaster designed by the band") - never optimal, but I think much better than simply not delivering on a more ambitious premise. I hope that, for any eventual update, they go the WDSP route or come up with something else that mitigates these issues.

*There are exceptions to the need for more "believability" when it's a fantasy-style attraction (e.g., classic Fantasyland rides and Space Mountain), but RNR "takes itself seriously" in the setup and then fails to deliver on that.
 
ppete1975

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Andrew25 said:
Realistically, how much space do they have to work with? Just Launch Bay space & the little piece of parking lot in between it and RNRC? Or do they also knock own all those offices/TMs space back there?

I like Walt Disney Presents, but I think it'll be better to knock out two birds with one stone and move it to the Mickey Shorts theater and then use WDP for expansion.
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I would like to see a bigger walt disney presents, maybe in springs or a new area. Something like the family museum or the traveling exhibit thats about to open in KC. Use all the technology (minus the walt hologram), make it a must visit museum about walt.
 
Chupaca Bruh

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What if the bulldoze Sunset Ranch Market? That would provide room and another walkway. I like the atmosphere of the Market very much. It fits the Blvd well but sometimes you can sacrifice something for better flow and usage.
 
Andrew25

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Chupaca Bruh said:
What if the bulldoze Sunset Ranch Market? That would provide room and another walkway. I like the atmosphere of the Market very much. It fits the Blvd well but sometimes you can sacrifice something for better flow and usage.
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I don't think they have to. There's already a BoH access gate there than easily just lead to a pathway connecting to Animation Courtyard.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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Chupaca Bruh said:
What if the bulldoze Sunset Ranch Market? That would provide room and another walkway. I like the atmosphere of the Market very much. It fits the Blvd well but sometimes you can sacrifice something for better flow and usage.
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That's a substantial chunk of DHS F&B offerings, I can't see that happening. I think they would build a connection somewhere in the RnRC / Lightning area.
 
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doctornick

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Andrew25 said:
The only issue with building back there is the RNRC gravity building. It's a tall structure, and very well hidden currently. But once you open up that area for expansion... it'll become far more noticeable.
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It's closer to the entrance to RnR itself than to any of this land. You can certainly still see the gravity building from points, but I don't think it would be any worse and they can arrange buildings in specific locations/heights to minimize the view of that.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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doctornick said:
It's closer to the entrance to RnR itself than to any of this land. You can certainly still see the gravity building from points, but I don't think it would be any worse and they can arrange buildings in specific locations/heights to minimize the view of that.
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Considering you can see Galaxy's Edge & the BoH building over there from SDD, and the hideous Guardians building from several locations in World Showcase, I have very little faith in Disney's ability ($$$, not creatively) to cover the building up.
 
DisneyDodo

DisneyDodo

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I’ve always been a big fan of RnRC, but the recent additions of GotG and Tron have rendered it redundant IMO. I wouldn’t bulldoze it just for the sake of it, but if Disney wanted to go all out with a massive new land, having free access to that large chunk of space would be more valuable than shoehorning the land’s theme into the existing coaster.
 
DisneyDodo

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rle4lunch said:
Retheming RNRC to Lightning McQueen's simulator run in Cars 3 isn't a big stretch... Just saying.
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I feel like it would be weird to have a ride that actually moves forward themed to a simulator. Generally, you go the other way, where the simulator is used to simulate forward movement (à la ST/MFSR), unless it’s themed to an actual simulator (à la MS)
 

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