“Something major” coming to DHS???

[BrianLo]

If Launch Bay project is a real thing... I'd imagine we should be on the lookout for signs/permits of them relocating the M&Gs to SWGE proper?

I'd personally anticipate we could be upwards of an entire 12-18 months out and DHS would still be the second in line project after DAK. The Big Thunder Project is going to require a ton of site and water management prep for build suitability. Permitting this year would be interesting as it would almost imply they are planning to open two major projects in the same year... which I just don't see them wanting to do.

More likely DAK Indy/flip is 2026, Encanto 2027, DHS 2028, Big Thunder ?2029.

Not precluding 'other things', but these seem to be the tentpoles of their strategy. Maybe there is more overlap than I'm expecting, but I'd expect the overlap to come from the bonus attractions (if they stick) like Moana or a 3rd DAK addition. Or something in Epcot I guess.

 

[Brer Panther]

it also seemed like they simply didn't want 2 of this very elaborate ride system in WDW to avoid diluting the uniqueness of the ride system.

Fear of "diluting the uniqueness of the ride system" didn't stop them from adding, like, three trackless dark rides.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

i just hope that whatever they build has super high capacity, has decent length and quality throughout.

We dont need a super short attraction, or something where the capacity is super small.

We need something that will eat people and leave them smiling. And something that can utilize a standby line. I sadly dont think guardians or tron will be seeing standby lines for a long time if ever. And thats just not what I expect in a theme park experience.

What's the capacity for Shanghai pirates?

 

[EricsBiscuit]

What's the capacity for Shanghai pirates?

Big

 

[MagicHappens1971]

What's the capacity for Shanghai pirates?

I’m not sure of what it is exactly but I believe it’s pretty high

 

[castlecake2.0]

Realistically, how much space do they have to work with? Just Launch Bay space & the little piece of parking lot in between it and RNRC? Or do they also knock own all those offices/TMs space back there?

I like Walt Disney Presents, but I think it'll be better to knock out two birds with one stone and move it to the Mickey Shorts theater and then use WDP for expansion.

I just don’t see them knocking down the feature animation building/parking garage/and all the back of house operations buildings for a new land. The easier expansion would be the echo lake area.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I just don’t see them knocking down the feature animation building/parking garage/and all the back of house operations buildings for a new land. The easier expansion would be the echo lake area.

I’ve been in the feature animation building once or twice and it doesn’t seem to have much going on it. The Ops building definetly does though. It may be easier to relocate that than redo the parking lot, again. (I know they didn’t completely redo it, but did reconfigure things)

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

They've got plenty of new office space over at the Starcruiser, knocking a few of the buildings down behind Launch Bay shouldn't be any concern.

 

[castlecake2.0]

I’ve been in the feature animation building once or twice and it doesn’t seem to have much going on it. The Ops building definetly does though. It may be easier to relocate that than redo the parking lot, again. (I know they didn’t completely redo it, but did reconfigure things)

They have quite a few departments operating out of FA, the building is at capacity. However they’re not the most exciting groups so the building is pretty quiet most of the time.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

They've got plenty of new office space over at the Starcruiser, knocking a few of the buildings down behind Launch Bay shouldn't be any concern.

The Ops building is used by custodial and outdoor vending so does need to be in an accessible spot.

 

[Sam Magic]

If we're talking about a Rock 'n' Roller Coaster retheme... I dunno if he's considered a rock star, but a Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Starring Weird Al Yankovic could be cool.

I'm late on these, but please be serious. No one who has graduated from high school since 9/11 still knows or cares about Al Yankovic.

There’s potential for several districts. Duckburg, Mickey’s Neighborhood , the Downtown Core with Roger Rabbit, an Oswald Trolley line, etc. So much potential.

Guys. I am begging y'all to stop suggesting Roger Rabbit. Some folks here talk about newer IPs not "aging well", then turn around and suggest Disney spend capital on building an attraction for an IP released almost 40 years ago and has little to no modern reach/relevance.

The biggest question in this area is not what would cause Universal to completely relinquish the Marvel rights, but what would be necessary to give up the exclusive rights to Marvel east of the Mississippi.

As it stands, Universal is sort of in stasis with the Marvel section. They really can't add anything new (as Disney may be loathe to approve), but have to maintain what exists to keep their rights. And their attractions are based on four main categories: Hulk, X-men, Fantastic Four, and Spider-man. Two of those segments should have major films coming in the next several years. Could Disney offer access to the film versions of those characters in exchange for the right to build Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, etc attractions in addition to what is at Universal?

That's a more interesting question that could reap benefits for both parties.

Hot take, I think Universal played Marvel brilliantly.

I think it's fair to say we are past the Marvel Era of the 2010s. Disney has been slow to realize this, but popular culture has largely moved on. Universal prevented Disney from striking when the iron was hot, and now, I'm unsure what Disney would gain from planting an Avenger's Campus in DHS.

Note: This is more a comment on the lackluster nature and weak placemaking of Disney's Marvel attractions than on the long-term appeal of Marvel superheroes. They will always retain a degree of popularity, but we are no longer in the peak moment of their cultural saturation.

 

[castlecake2.0]

They've got plenty of new office space over at the Starcruiser, knocking a few of the buildings down behind Launch Bay shouldn't be any concern.

In most cases I’d agree but this isn’t like the normal backstage office trailers, this would be like knocking down the Team Disney building. Maybe that’s the plan, but it seems like a very expensive asset to bulldoze.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Guys. I am begging y'all to stop suggesting Roger Rabbit. Some folks here talk about newer IPs not "aging well", then turn around and suggest Disney spend capital on building an attraction for an IP released almost 40 years ago and has little to no modern reach/relevance.

It’s one of Disney’s best movies, it’s proved to translate well to the parks, and ToonTown itself has a reach well beyond the film. With or without Roger, a colourful cartoon land where you get to hang out with Mickey is not a hard sell. It’s disappointing they haven’t gone further with it at WDW than the under-built fair.

 

[Tha Realest]

It’s one of Disney’s best movies, it’s proved to translate well to the parks, and ToonTown itself has a reach well beyond the film. With or without Roger, a colourful cartoon land where you get to hang out with Mickey is not a hard sell. It’s disappointing they haven’t gone further with it at WDW than the under-built fair.

It’s an impossibly perfect film that still holds up decades later. There are so many reasons why it shouldn’t work, but each and every piece of it clicks perfectly: the script, the tone, the performances, the animation, the physical set pieces mixed with animation, the casting, Hoskins’ performance. It’s why I don’t mind Zemeckis doing his weird CG motion capture stuff because in my mind he’s earned a blank check for life after his streak from the early 80’s into the late 90’s.

It’s a shame it’s caught in the middle of the Disney-Spielberg dust up. If D+ were still producing big budget stuff I’d love to see a RR miniseries in the vein of Perry Mason / LA Confidential set in 1950’s LA.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

If D+ were still producing big budget stuff I’d love to see a RR miniseries in the vein of Perry Mason / LA Confidential set in 1950’s LA.

D+ is still producing big budget stuff. Percy Jackson, Mando, Andor, etc

 

[RobbinsDad]

In most cases I’d agree but this isn’t like the normal backstage office trailers, this would be like knocking down the Team Disney building. Maybe that’s the plan, but it seems like a very expensive asset to bulldoze.

I agree, but where else are they gonna go? Moving south beyond SWGE into the starcruiser area will make an already inefficient layout even worse. The other option is the lots behind Indy but I don’t know if that’s enough area to build much without seriously cutting into parking space.

 

[IMDREW]

I think a land with a good sized lagoon would do HS wonders.

And is a villains land still on the table for MK?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I think a land with a good sized lagoon would do HS wonders.

And is a villains land still on the table for MK?

Yes

 

[DisneyDodo]

If Disney wants to do something in Animation Courtyard (and I’m not convinced it’s quite as imminent as some are suggesting), there’s a lot of ways they can go in terms of scale. On one end of the spectrum, they could just replace Launch Bay with something more substantial. On the other, they could build a huge new land (or 2) spanning from WDP all the way to LMRA (which would include the demolition or retheming of RnRC). Basically all of the backstage utilities there can be relocated if desired. Most likely, we’d end up with something in between those extremes.

 

[RobbinsDad]

If Disney wants to do something in Animation Courtyard (and I’m not convinced it’s quite as imminent as some are suggesting), there’s a lot of ways they can go in terms of scale. On one end of the spectrum, they could just replace Launch Bay with something more substantial. On the other, they could build a huge new land (or 2) spanning from WDP all the way to LMRA (which would include the demolition or retheming of RnRC). Basically all of the backstage utilities there can be relocated if desired. Most likely, we’d end up with something in between those extremes.

Which is why if it's a new land coming to DHS, and it's behind Launch Bay, Carsland makes the most sense. You already have the LMRA attraction. It would also be relatively easy to retheme RNRC to Cars.