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  1. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    i'm not the one trying to force everyone into their homes for the rest of their lives. the burden of proof is on people like YOU to justify school closures or other mitigation measures that have ravaged the globe and put undue burden on the most vulnerable in society. but since you asked. please...
  2. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    you realize the famed 'contact tracing' is basically the phone version of a "freaking voluntary email?" you also realize that there are boatloads of studies, chiefly from south korea, sweden, etc., that show the same thing? and yeah, do you want to know why some countries don't test...
  3. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    that's literally what i said. you said the same thing with the same words arranged differently.
  4. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    the european CDC has found that no adult contacts of infected children in school settings have tested positive. so if your concern about schools is with children infecting teachers, europe has data to alleviate your fear...
  5. baymenxpac

    43 Points to Transfer

    just so people know, i know this dude above pretty well! like, since-birth well. he's on the up and up, so if you're legitimately interested, don't hesitate to reach out.
  6. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    i agree that nuance is important. there are many, many hypotheses worth exploring. but the one that keeps jumping out is simply this: coronaviruses are highly seasonal and have followed a tried-and-true seasonal trajectory in every single region (louisiana being the one outlier, likely because...
  7. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    just came here to see how people are reconciling their pro-lockdown stances with the news that -- after 102 days without a case -- new zealand has four new cases, all with no history of international travel. virus gonna virus. faster you learn that, the faster you regain your sanity.
  8. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    wear a mask, sure. if it makes you feel better. also, go to bars, parties, and family gatherings, if it makes you feel better. if it doesn't, don't. i'm not in charge of your social calendar. to your spread point, you're using the same line of thinking that all modeling used, which was, "WE...
  9. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    okay: https://protect-public.hhs.gov/datasets/hhs-protect-percentage-of-inpatient-beds-occupied-by-covid-19-patients-estimate/data?geometry=78.319%2C-16.702%2C-85.158%2C72.161&orderBy=inpatient_bed_utilization&orderByAsc=false that's HHS's dashboard. check the numbers on inpatient bed...
  10. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    yeah, it's almost as if lock downs aren't feasible strategy and were a product of magical thinking and illogical fear. if we can remember as far back as ::checks notes::....march....we were only supposed to make sure hospitals didn't get overwhelmed. now the goal posts moved to, "no community...
  11. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    last thing i'll say on this. he also said on march 8 on 60 minutes: "the masks are important for someone who is infected to prevent them from infecting someone else. now, when you see people and look at the films in china and south korea, wherever, where everyone's wearing a mask...right now...
  12. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    just so everyone knows (and brian knows this), i very much respect his opinion, especially since it's a very, very well informed one. we've gone back and forth on this a little bit. i agree largely with it not being much to take solace in, with the caveat that we have to look at state-by-state...
  13. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    no, no, no. i'm sorry, you can't say something "isn't true" and then offer reasons why public health officials said not to wear them, which has nothing to do with their corresponding claims of effectiveness. public health officials said they don't want a run on them when it's healthcare workers...
  14. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    that is not at all what i'm saying. we obviously are acting without facts being 100% clear. i'm saying when we get NEW facts, we can't ignore them because they contradict the old information we had. take masks. there is a huge push back on masks in this country in part because the government...
  15. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    i'll speak for myself and say that i do not believe i am trying to be "tricked." in general, what i am concerned about is that here in the US, we are trying to have a national, real-time debate in the landscape with the following challenges: - disjointed, non-uniform, and poorly-defined data...
  16. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    what's he's nitpicking about is that we're told all the time, "JUST WAIT! DEATHS LAG!" so we saw a pop last week, and that's supposed to act as confirmation that the FACT states are in crisis. it also helps craft the, "it was the re-opening!" narrative on "CASE SURGING!" however, if a large...
  17. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    it's much better for your overall health to understand the raw case count mean virtually nothing.
  18. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    yes. NYC has reported 23,096 deaths. NYS has 32,032 deaths. so 72.1 percent of the deaths in the city. i don't know where dave lives, but upstate is very different from downstate. there are some counties in NY where, as the governor said at one of his briefings, livestock outnumbers people...
  19. baymenxpac

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    just want to tell you all that, in my opinion, this is nuts. here's the positive rates in NYC over time (from forward.ny.gov). june 29: 23,327 tested, 240 positive. i know some of you don't quite know the day-to-day nature of NYC, but the idea that you would be able to suppress any kind of...
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