GimpYancIent
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Uhhhh, no don't think so.
Disney Didn't Expect What Happened After Jimmy Kimmel's Cancellation - & Is Scrambling To Fix It
Now it's scrambling.screenrant.com
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Len Testa - “Disney positions itself as the all-American vacation. The irony is that most Americans can’t afford it.”
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Splash4eva
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Covid made a ton of people especially pixie dusters realize there are other places to go other than disney…
Miss Bella
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Nothing cures high prices like high prices.
Splash4eva
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Is it really or is it more to do with a diminished product shuttered attractions less entertainment & hours so on and so forth? If they execute these current projects flawlessly and that is a BIG IF numbers will come back like never before
wannabeBelle
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Exactly so. Problem is that Disney does not have a great track record of replacing great attractions with attractions that are different to be sure but of equal or greater value. There are some but many more of the ones that flopped. One of the ones that hurt most for me was the termination of Off Kilter. The next act placed on that stage was a carnival sideshow of lumberjacks that someone literally found on the side of Route 192. Not from Canada, but from Florida. Granted most of Off Kilter wasnt from Canada either but they honored the culture and music of Canada with their art. The lumberjacks were an insult. They did get replaced after a short stint by a rotating lineup of bands who are actually from Canada. I have seen a few and while they are good, they didnt connect with me the way Off Kilter did. I'm sure that many of the members here can name other examples of a downgrade in the offerings. Marie
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Sirwalterraleigh
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I will call that effect the “confluence of stupidity”
Bob and Bob completely misplayed it.
The took pent up travel and free money as a greenlight to try to charge increasing retail prices to everyone in 2022…worked for a little bit. But knowing the planning Windows…it crashed behind the scenes HARD almost immediately. What you describe is the lagging response: people started to say “no thanks” ever since…
Because they came off like “Covid profiteers”…an excuse to implement ill advised concepts they had kicked around long before…
Cause and effect
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Splash4eva
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Whats crazy is of they would have ramped up expansion during this “reset” it would have worked marvelously
Sirwalterraleigh
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Bob never understood that you build when there’s a lull…he’s an idiot
Mr tech mogul
Splash4eva
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Its actually sad because he literally has 3 of the most iconic IP’s & somehow has found a way to F it or at bare minimum barely capitalizing on it. People will pay and pay mightily. For some reason he is afraid if they expand and offer longer hours that will stop and its anything but. People will still buy ILL. People will still pay to skip lines. More people will actually stay on property if you reoffer some of these “free”
Perks that im confident were already baked into the price they were charging. ME to keep peoplein the bubble was the dumbest cut. EMH to only Deluxe? So many dumb decisions
I do believe they pushed it all out at the same time. We knew something was coming, so we caught it when it dropped.
Pam
Vegas Disney Fan
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Also exposed a ton of new guests to the parks via new free time and new free money.
Cutting shows has to be one of the biggest mistakes Disney has made, even with the higher negotiated wages for talent the cost/result ratio had to still make sense, pulling 1,000 guests off the streets every hour for an Aladdin show or Frozen show completely changed the feel of the park, all those guests are now standing in crowded lines instead of in an air conditioned seat which makes them hot and miserable and makes the park feel crowded and miserable for everyone else.
Disney has eliminated a lot of the fun non ride elements of the parks, it’s not something that’s glaringly obvious during your day but it’s something that’s very noticeable at the end of a trip, it just doesn’t feel as fun anymore.
jah4955
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at least Disney's not this bad (I hope)? https://www.foxnews.com/travel/las-vegas-visitors-shocked-crazy-costs-14-coffees-95-atm-fees
Sirwalterraleigh
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Vegas misplayed the market so much they make Disney look “well run”
wannabeBelle
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I was kinda surprised but havent been to Vegas in a while. $13 to 14 dollars for a coffee is a little nuts. Starbucks in Downtown Manhattan is running around $7 for the higher end coffees. Marie
Sirwalterraleigh
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Anything that’s more than the upcharge at the Jon Bon Jovi rest stop on the parkway is a little rich for my blood
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Miss Bella
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They wanted to get rid of their base. They seem to have accomplished that. It just doesn't look the super wealthy want to vacation there. Disney may fall into that same trap.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They are already holding onto the ledge above the trap now
So, given D+ is increasing rates by 20% for no real reason other than they can, should we expect the “affordable” Disney vacation to increase in price that much in the near future as well? After all, look at all the “major projects” coming in the next 12 months…