Disstevefan1
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Repairs made with clear zip ties.... Yup, that sounds like today's Disney company
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MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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Epcot82Guy
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So... 2027... Are our bets on "Tiana's Bayou Adventure Under New Management" or "Journey Into Your Bayou with Tiana"?
WorldExplorer
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My bet is on them continuing on doing nothing as if it isn't a terrible ride.
Found a video from a company that did work on DL's version of Bayou Adventure, complete with a construction shot of Burrow Lament that I feel perfectly sums up why this ride is a colossal nuke:
It just illustrates how much nothing there is to look at Bayou, even with the lights on. Keep in mind, this exact spot would have had 15 figures to look at if you looked at Splash from this spot, even with the lights on.
Yes, a single screen with 3D printed mushrooms and bottles is a much better sequnce than:
It just illustrates how much nothing there is to look at Bayou, even with the lights on. Keep in mind, this exact spot would have had 15 figures to look at if you looked at Splash from this spot, even with the lights on.
Yes, a single screen with 3D printed mushrooms and bottles is a much better sequnce than:
- Brer Rabbit stuck in honey
- Brer Fox sneaking up on him
- Mama Possum and 2 babies
- Mama Rabbit and 4 baby bunnies
- Boothill Boys
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Giss Neric
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My biggest issue for this ride is the placement of Mama Odie's AA. Her being in the lift hill and after the finale of the ride just doesn't work for me. I was initially expecting since Dr. Facilier is not in the ride that she would be some sort of antagonist after shrinking us into frog size but I didn't feel her presence in the ride at all. I was more nervously anticipating for the drop than noticing her there.
Figments Friend
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Meanwhile….at Tokyo Disneyland :
Wonderful, whimsical artwork currently being given to Guests who purchase a print of their on ride photo.
Why can we no longer have this whimsy Stateside anymore…?
Take a closer look…and let it sink in :
We lost ALL of this…for blank walls and video screens.
And gained what..?
A few impressive AAs, yes…when they operate correctly.
I want this again…even if in another form.
‘Tiana’s Bayou Misadventure’ SHOULD have been just as whimsical and fun.
Wonderful, whimsical artwork currently being given to Guests who purchase a print of their on ride photo.
Why can we no longer have this whimsy Stateside anymore…?
Take a closer look…and let it sink in :
We lost ALL of this…for blank walls and video screens.
And gained what..?
A few impressive AAs, yes…when they operate correctly.
I want this again…even if in another form.
‘Tiana’s Bayou Misadventure’ SHOULD have been just as whimsical and fun.
WorldExplorer
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I don't think anyone knows how to do whimsy anymore. At least not anyone mainstream and certainly not anyone Disney has hired. I can't remember the last thing I experienced that seemed to hit that spot.
I blame the obsession with irony and self awareness that just will not die.
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Epcot82Guy
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Ironically, whimsy and artistry like this takes risks. It can't be done by spreadsheet. Not to dive too far into the psychology, but it's actually a much weirder symptom of ego masquerading as self awareness that leads to this. Unaware faux self awareness is actually far more dangerous than lack of self awareness... but that's another topic.
Time to keep moving along...
Tha Realest
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Remember all the people saying how important a remaking of this ride was because of how high the maintenance costs were for the original?
LittleBuford
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I honestly don’t remember this. I recall people saying the retheme could present an opportunity for Disney to address the ride’s maintenance issues (which obviously proved a misplaced hope), but I don’t recall anyone who endorsed the project claiming that Tiana would be cheaper to operate than Splash. On the contrary, those who kept saying this was all about cutting costs tended to be in the anti-retheme camp.
Sir_Cliff
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Yes, I think this is the typical re-writing of history on these boards where cautious optimism or just neutrality morphs into enthusiastic endorsement.
I'm kind of curious to know how this re-theme is looking to Disney in retrospect. I suspect they would rather have not spent the money, though I would be curious whether guest ratings of Tiana are better, worse, or the same as Splash's in its final years. I would also be interested to know if they see it bringing in much in the way of extra revenue from LL or merchandise or if, again, that's more or less a bust.
Whimsy died at TWDC on October 1, 2005.
LittleBuford
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Plus things that were posted by certain individuals get conflated or confused with things posted by others. And so the oft-heard line “Disney is only doing this to cut costs” gets reframed as a positive opinion voiced by those who supported the retheme or weren’t opposed to it outright.
If I’m not mistaken, @lentesta has said the reviews he collects show great enthusiasm for the new ride. I personally think it’s a major downgrade, though it needn’t and shouldn’t have been.
Animaniac93-98
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Based on info from Tour Plans, guest ranking of Tiana compared to other Magic Kingdom rides is the same as it was for Splash.
Merch and LL are presumably higher, as Splash Mountain did not offer ILL and there's more merch in general.
I can't imagine they're thrilled with the ongoing reliability and effects issues, but they probably see the ride as more "Disney" and on brand now for being based on one of their more recent movies. We know trying to reshape the parks to be more about current IP is a major initiative they're willing to spend a lot of money on.
If Disney has any regrets, it's likely all the time they spent trying to turn PatF into it's own franchise, only to ultimately cancel the spin off series (that was supposed to connect with this ride) after 5 years of work. Tiana never had a sequel (theatrical or direct-to-video), no Broadway adaptation, no stand alone ice show or parade in the parks since 2009, TV series like Tangled or Big Hero Six etc. This was the chance for the character to make a big return and they basically gave up after the ride opened.
dmc493
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I think they gave up independently of the ride, it feels like the show was cancelled more based on realignment of priorities for Disney+ and the animation studio
WaltWiz1901
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the dearth of tastefully done whimsical attractions in the 21st century stings harder when you realize that Imagineering could theoretically still pull it off, and have...overseas and for the most part not even under TWDC's money (it helps that the company doing the spending there has greater enthusiasm for the Disney brand than Disney themselves and isn't dominated by egotists driven by hubris and envy/hostility towards the greats).
imagine if, over the past decade-and-a-half, the American parks had gotten whimsical attractions on par with Hunny Hunt, Sindbad, etc. rather than Little Mermaid, Tiana, etc. I can guarantee you no one would be lamenting the abandonment of whimsy if they had put in that extra effort
Tha Realest
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How much, I wonder, does these reliability issues affect the decision process over what to do in TDL?
I get TWDC really wants them to change it. The poor quality in both parks makes that a really hard sell, one would think.
I get TWDC really wants them to change it. The poor quality in both parks makes that a really hard sell, one would think.
WaltWiz1901
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fairly certain @Brer Oswald said they had given up on getting OLC to change theirs a few months ago. OLC more than likely didn't think it was worth the trouble replacing one of their most popular E-tickets