Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Sonic 3 opened $12M less than the second did just 2 years ago (and 3 cost $32M more to make), that doesn't appear to be an upward trend to me.
It's the highest rated of the three with fans and critics. It's got great word of mouth. It's an upward trend to me. We'll see what the final numbers are going to be but as of this moment, the arrow is pointing more north than South in my opinion. The difference with me, is I can adjust, even when it's a property close to my heart. I've been a Sonic fan for 33 years. Bought it when it released for the Genesis, sonic cd is still hooked up on my tv using original hardware. If this movie does significantly less than the last, sure, then it's on a downturn. It only needs 350 to 360 mil to break even at worst. So we'll see how it ends up.
 

coffeefan

Active Member
On the subject of Moana 2 and Mufasa being released too close together, next year Disney has:

May 23: Lilo and Stitch remake
June 13: Elio


The “original non-IP stories bomb” are already being written.

And after releasing one Marvel film this year:

Feb: Captain America
May: Thunderbolts
July: Fantastic Four


There’s gonna be MCU oversaturation at some point. Only question is how much and when.
Elio is the only Disney original and non-remake/ non-IP/sequel releasing next year I believe. So I sure hope all the people that complain about remakes and IP sequels are the first in line to see it.☺️
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
It only needs 350 to 360 mil to break even at worst.
That might be where it ends up based on this opening. But yes we'll see where it ends up in the final tally.

And just note I'm not rooting for it to do badly, I don't do that with any film no matter the franchise or studio unlike some posters around here. I want all films to do good as that is what leads to a better box office overall. So I got no skin in the game as it were.
 

Ghost93

Well-Known Member
Elio is the only Disney original and non-remake/ non-IP/sequel releasing next year I believe. So I sure hope all the people that complain about remakes and IP sequels are the first in line to see it.☺️
I'll see it. I saw Raya, Encanto, Strange World, Wish and Elemental in theaters, so I've done my part to support original animation from Disney/Pixar, even if the movies themselves haven't always been great.

Would have seen Soul/Luca/Turning Red in theaters is they hadn't been sent straight to streaming.

And just note I'm not rooting for it to do badly, I don't do that with any film no matter the franchise or studio unlike some posters around here. I want all films to do good as that is what leads to a better box office overall. So I got no skin in the game as it were.

I want good movies to do well and bad movies to flop. Mufasa is kind of a mixed bag, so I don't care too much either way how it financially performs. I'm just glad it was much more enjoyable than the 2019 Lion King.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Moana 2 now sits at $790M WW before final weekend numbers, likely crossing over $800M before Christmas Eve. International continues to have legs even if domestic has been flat.

We'll see by the end of next weekend if it has the juice to make it close to $1B or come just shy, either way Disney is exclaiming "Cheehoo!" with this movie.
Nope…carry on
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Nope what? Nope it won’t cross $800M before Christmas Eve, well it did. Nope that Disney isn’t extremely happy with its performance, well they are. Nope that it won’t cross a Billion, well that remains to be seen, it’ll likely be close by the end of its run if it doesn’t. International remains strong with this one.
No the billion

It may get there…BO is weird this time of year

A solid intentional hit…not so much domestic

Mufasa was predictable

The crossover with the little mermaid looks like a longshot now
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
My convictions on the end point over 1B hasn't really changed, I think that's going to look a little more clearly with where we're landing in the 900 spectrum post holidays. It seems to be limping, versus sprinting over 1B though.

What is clear to me is that every DIS movie the last 2 years has been under-called by 10-15% as people really don't seem to get how things slowly chug along for months. Stop writing post mortem's on movies still adding 100M WW per week...
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
No the billion

It may get there…BO is weird this time of year

A solid intentional hit…not so much domestic

Mufasa was predictable

The crossover with the little mermaid looks like a longshot now
As I said we'll see, its possible to still get there. As even you acknowledge international its a hit and box office is weird this time of year.

Since my post wasn't about Mufasa not sure why bring that up now. But yes its fairly predictable that it won't be a success overall. Don't know what crossover you're talking about, but whatever.

This is still a good year for Disney with almost every single release minus Mufasa being a hit. So no matter what happens in the final numbers for Moana 2 they are extremely happy with its results even if it doesn't cross a Billion.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
My convictions on the end point over 1B hasn't really changed, I think that's going to look a little more clearly with where we're landing in the 900 spectrum post holidays. It seems to be limping, versus sprinting over 1B though.

What is clear to me is that every DIS movie the last 2 years has been under-called by 10-15% as people really don't seem to get how things slowly chug along for months. Stop writing post mortem's on movies still adding 100M WW per week...
If I was to guess (if it doesn't cross $1B), Moana 2 will end up in the $960-$975M range. Would still be a great run for a $150M movie that started life as a series.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
As I said we'll see, its possible to still get there. As even you acknowledge international its a hit and box office is weird this time of year.

Since my post wasn't about Mufasa not sure why bring that up now. But yes its fairly predictable that it won't be a success overall. Don't know what crossover you're talking about, but whatever.

This is still a good year for Disney with almost every single release minus Mufasa being a hit. So no matter what happens in the final numbers for Moana 2 they are extremely happy with its results even if it doesn't cross a Billion.
What’s the title of the thread?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
My convictions on the end point over 1B hasn't really changed, I think that's going to look a little more clearly with where we're landing in the 900 spectrum post holidays. It seems to be limping, versus sprinting over 1B though.

What is clear to me is that every DIS movie the last 2 years has been under-called by 10-15% as people really don't seem to get how things slowly chug along for months. Stop writing post mortem's on movies still adding 100M WW per week...
Does that include the 9 flops last year?

Quite the slate of thoroughbreds.

They had a good year this year…though other than inside out…I can’t remember what else they had?

..:forgot Deadpool
 

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