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FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was
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Jedijax719
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By how much? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
Jeff4272
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a 5% reduction in occupancy would be a problem for them.........The compounding affect of spending is big for resort guests (thats why they did magical express to begin with)
I wonder if they think thats not a factor any longer
But to me the combo of more competition, economy changing and higher prices could be a problem soon
Sirwalterraleigh
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I do
the lead time/planning window was wrecked and delta is going to cause restrictions/disruptions
Disney gives hints too…their construction is grinding more than even their normal snail pace
That would indicate they’re still “waiting it out”
Jeff4272
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I dont agree with you....There have been a number of times that occupancy has dropped, it just hasnt been recently because we've had zero interest rates for 10 years.........
Lets see what happens next year when inflation goes through the roof........I highly doubt people will pay $900 a night for the Contemporary
Sirwalterraleigh
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example?
Jeff4272
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And if that Virtual quene gets too long they give you a stop watch and when the alarm goes off thats when you try to get in the virtual quene so you can get in the regular quene
Jeff4272
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2009 they had to lay off over 1900 employees due to low hotel occupancy rates......
Iger on 2q 2009 eps call:
Disney’s studio revenue dropped 26 percent to $1.95 billion. The company said stronger DVD releases a year ago, including “Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End” and “Ratatouille,” outperformed the holiday releases this year, including “WALL-E” and “The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian.”
Revenue at the cable networks such as Disney Channel and ESPN rose 2 percent to $2.45 billion, but broadcasting revenue at ABC declined 14 percent to $1.45 billion.
Parks and resorts revenue fell 4 percent to $2.67 billion as attendance at the company’s U.S. theme parks and hotel occupancy at its domestic resorts declined.
Jeff4272
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the narrative that "everyone will pay for anything" is just not true.........
bcoachable
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I could see the same happening at WDW as well, once us nubes decide we don’t want to visit anymore due to “Pay to Play” strategies.
There will be a steady drop in standby lines on that day!
kong1802
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Well, there was this going on during that time:
Jeff4272
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your point? have you heard of the pandemic?
Disney is stripping down its free offerings after losing billions during the pandemic.......
They have the benefit of pent up demand for travel plus the 50th...
But after that, look out below
skypilot2922
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this also was when Iger tried to sell the parks to Prince alaweed
kong1802
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I don't think its a great example of people deciding that because of WDW's decisions they were going to go elsewhere.
There was a macro meltdown and people weren't going anywhere. Nothing to do with any of WDW's decisions.
Pandemic?! That's a good point. It's like saying no one went to WDW in April 2020 so that's proof that the consumer spurned WDW for bad decisions, completely ignoring the fact that there was a large scale issue going on.
I'm hoping that the consumers hold the line after the pent up demand burns through. However, the below price for mid October for this room let's me know we've already lost the war...
Sirwalterraleigh
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The ONLY Thing(s) that have ever caused attendance to “decline”….and it really was just a flattening…have been recessions
and one virus. And one terrorist event (that was really in a recession already)
Disney has never suffered reduced attendance/revenues due to cutting perks.
you’re more likely to see a unicorn ridden by a Sasquatch down Buena Vista…
that’s not to say it isn’t possible…forever…but it simply hasn’t happened. For now.
the loss of prebooked fast pass isn’t likely to move anything at all. And someone said earlier that values and moderates are vulnerable?
yeah…they jacked the rates x2 in 10 years flat and you have to beat the people away…
nothing to see there. Paying $300 for port orleans is gladly wanted by the faceless masses.
Jeff4272
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Im going to buy the stock as a hedge against my vacation investments..........If they keep getting higher prices and higher occupancy, i can use my gains from the stock price to pay for my trips!
Sirwalterraleigh
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You mock…but that is the reality
in fact…in the “Great Recession” they invented new ways not to lose
they actually hedged against the overall economy
The real rescueranger
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I will give you one. It was the year that they did away with early entry for resort guests and started doing character caravans. When I found out, I called and canceled my trip. I told the CM why I was canceling and that I would probably not return unless some changes were made. I wasn’t expecting any changes. I am just one person, no big deal right? Well a while later I received a call from Disney. I can’t remember what branch called me but they wanted to know my feedback on the change. I gave them my complaints and she confirmed to me that there had been numerous cancellations and that there were meetings going on to rectify the situation. Well that was when extra magic hours was born. I was actually given a code to use to get a discount on my package should I decide that I wanted to go. We did. There is now way they made that big of a change over a measly few cancellations. There must have been many. So it has happened and if people hit them in the pocketbook, they will pay attention.
Sirwalterraleigh
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….it was I believe in the early 00’s?
may not be as significant as you think. Guest comm was much better then than now (they actually compensated people for PR purposes)…so that’s gone.
and what’s “numerous”? Enough to put a dent in 20,000 on property rooms at the time? How about the hundreds off property?
do you recall the exact date?…let me test a theory…
disneygeek90
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Idk if it'll be slow but I can't wait for winter at WDW. Nothing better than being able to casually stroll through Epcot in the evenings wearing a hoody.
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