• The new WDWMAGIC iOS app is here!
    Stay up to date with the latest Disney news, photos, and discussions right from your iPhone. The app is free to download and gives you quick access to news articles, forums, photo galleries, park hours, weather and Lightning Lane pricing. Learn More
  • Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
    Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.

Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
jlhwdw said:
We're Still At The Beginning of the Pandemic, not the end
Click to expand...
The “it’s a world problem” is not going to go well. I do expect a bigger vaccine push…and boosters in the US…and then don’t be surprised if a certain Xenophonic travel policy arrives…

if you’re a fan of history…the movements around 1920 are fascinating. The was a movement to revert…social control and isolationism.

prohibition was the notorious thing…but a lot of the reasoning behind it was the shock of world war 1 and one other global event?

remember what that was?
 
Gringrinngghost

Gringrinngghost

Well-Known Member
DCBaker said:
Here's the latest...

Click to expand...

That's some really fuzzy math.

CDCs numbers total: 80,536
Florida Department of Health Numbers total: 56,386
What ever the hell is going on, there is an 30% reduction...
Discrepancy of Florida's 3 days total then CDC Sat/Sun is approximately 247 cases...

As per a reporter I know down here in Orlando, "Doh sends weekend data in lump sum to CDC Monday. CDC just adds it up, cuts it in half. It’s non sense." and there is from the Comms Director for DeSantis in essence a statement saying DoH Automatically sends this data in:


To the State Representative of Orange County being denied access to DoH numbers as they are 'confidential'...


I'm going with the CDC on this one.
 
Last edited:
Virtual Toad

Virtual Toad

Well-Known Member
Gringrinngghost said:
That's some really fuzzy math.

CDCs numbers total: 80,536
Florida Department of Health Numbers total: 56,386
What ever the hell is going on, there is an 30% reduction...
Discrepancy of Florida's 3 days total then CDC Sat/Sun is approximately 247 cases...

As per a reporter I know down here in Orlando, "Doh sends weekend data in lump sum to CDC Monday. CDC just adds it up, cuts it in half. It’s non sense." and there is from the Comms Director for DeSantis in essence a statement saying DoH Automatically sends this data in:


To the State Representative of Orange County being denied access to DoH numbers as they are 'confidential'...


I'm going with the CDC on this one.
Click to expand...

Withholding public health records as confidential, pediatric case numbers at that, seems inconsistent in a state that says it wants parents to make their own decisions regarding the health and safety of their children.

As a long-time Florida resident, I can only say that recent decisions coming from the Executive Branch in our state are questionable in terms of their conformity with our state constitution, as well as a departure from traditional governance in Florida, which used to rely on legislative action and voter-mandated changes to state law through a participative system of constitutional amendments. Not business as usual for us here right now but then again that goes for just about everything these days.
 
CTC

CTC

Member
Pretty clear to me that the only way out is a good antiviral. Take a CoVid test at home and start the 5 day treatment ASAP to stop disease progression. Hopefully we get some good results with Molnupiravir as they are expected in September. With the US government spending big on it, can we say it is a safe bet? Let's hope.
 
O

ohioguy

Well-Known Member
SamusAranX said:
More and more I am wondering if this pandemic will actually end anytime soon. If 21k cases and increases in hospitalizations won't significantly move the needle on vaccinations in Florida and other lagging areas, I do not know what will.
Click to expand...
It looks like vaccinations are up again all over. Delta has scared to beejeebus out of everyone and changed many a heart of an anti-vaxxer. This could have all been over if everyone had been more careful last year and gotten their vaccinations in a timely manner.
 
L

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Timmay said:
So, patient surge is patient surge from a hospital perspective for the most part. It looks like now though the surge in Texas is more staff driven than patient driven.

https://www.austinmonitor.com/stori...-field-hospital-heres-why-that-wont-work-now/
Click to expand...
"Out of state medical personnel " = A nice way of saying staffing agencies bringing in immigrant nurses, etc to fill openings. That's normal in operations. Some RNs pre covid from the Philippines took care of my family and friends. They are very caring to others.
 
Last edited:
Heppenheimer

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
Nubs70 said:
Now the WHO is warning of an outbreak of Marburg
Click to expand...
Makes me wonder... if COVID were a hemorrhagic disease like Marburg or Ebola, with the accompanying horrifying visuals, would this be scary enough for the refuseniks to finally start taking this pandemic seriously? I've never seen a case of the above diseases, but I have seen Congo-Crimea hemorrhagic fever. It is terrifying. These diseases strike down the young and healthy just as readily as the old and infirm.

FYI, Marburg Germany, despite being the namesake of an awful disease is a gorgeous town. Well worth a visit in non-pandemic times.
 
Nubs70

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
Heppenheimer said:
Makes me wonder... if COVID were a hemorrhagic disease like Marburg or Ebola, with the accompanying horrifying visuals, would this be scary enough for the refuseniks to finally start taking this pandemic seriously? I've never seen a case of the above diseases, but I have seen Congo-Crimea hemorrhagic fever. It is terrifying. These diseases strike down the young and healthy just as readily as the old and infirm.

FYI, Marburg Germany, despite being the namesake of an awful disease is a gorgeous town. Well worth a visit in non-pandemic times.
Click to expand...
If Covid had a 80% mortality rate, yes the dynamic would be entirely different. Yet, when directives to quarantine the nurse from Maine during the last Ebola scare, her refusal to quarantine was celebrated as "speaking truth to power".

www.msnbc.com

What's the problem? Nurse had access to "best takeout in Newark"

NJ Gov. Chris Christie says he has “no second thoughts” about placing an involuntary quarantine on Kaci Hickox, a nurse who has tested negative for Ebola twice.
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com
 
Last edited:
The Mom

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
Heppenheimer said:
The last generation with widespread paralysis caused by poliomyelitis has now all but died off, so I wonder how much of that cultural memory is now gone. I had a great uncle severely paralyzed by the disease when he was a child. He spent most of his life in a Shriner's home, after spending several years in the hospital. Our visits to him were, to put it mildly, extremely sad affairs. The fact that we're debating "parental rights" over the public health of children is just mind-boggling. Especially when you see how poorly some children are treated by their own parents (I've seen things that should have given me PTSD in my career...)
Click to expand...
A High School friend's mother was totally paralyzed due to polio, and used an external chest "compressor" to breathe - she was confined to a hospital bed, which could be moved into a converted school bus with a generator, so she was able to travel once a year. Her husband took incredible care of her until he died suddenly (MI) in the 70s. Her health declined, and she began to have hospitalizations. Her son had to set up the Iron Lung - once it had been found stored away in the basement - because most nurses/doctors on staff had never seen one.

She passed in 1979. It hit our community hard. So hard that I had multiple inoculations - every time a new vaccine came out, my mother brought us to get it! So I had a needle, "the gun" (high pressure injection), and finally, sugar cube.
 
LaughingGravy

LaughingGravy

Well-Known Member
crawale said:
Are you denying that 1) illegals have a high positivity rate in terms of COVID and 2) the Government is sending them out all over America?
Click to expand...
A relatively small problem compared to the spread to the rest of the country. It should still be of concern, but a relatively small minority on the southern border is not what is driving the majority of increased case numbers, unless they all flocked to AR, AL and FL, where I am sure [/sarc] they would be welcomed.
 
Last edited:
L

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
helenabear said:
You act like all illegals are scary and germ filled. The ones I know are vaccinated. One I know has struggled to go to college to be a good citizen all because their parents brought them here when they were 1. I think fact in some areas, illegal or not, there are huge number of cases. Some illegals fear getting the shot due to thinking they'll be deported. So unfortunately for some it is high. Mix with a distrust of medical that many marginalized have. However we have the means to help those numbers of unvaccinated shrink.

It's your rhetoric I personally have issues with as it starts to feel close to a nasty thing people pretend doesn't exist here.
Click to expand...
The fresh fruits and veggies that I eat, the food that is cooked for me in a restaurant, the manual labor to build our country back up including low paid tourism jobs , construction , etc , I thank all people that labor in these jobs including migrants. The late foodie Anthony Bourdain once said without migrant labor, the food and beverage industry in our country would collapse.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom