Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Andrew C]

Obviously not every place of business will do this, that is part of the freedom, but the other is that major companies and federal agencies are already making it required.

Then watch insurance incentives or penalties kick in. That is going to convince or cost some people.

Is not having the vaccine going to be considered a preexisting condition.

 

[celluloid]

Is not having the vaccine going to be considered a preexisting condition.

Haha. Realistically though, I think we could see it on questionnaires for health insurance companies.

 

[Andrew C]

Haha. Realistically though, I think we could see it on questionnaires for health insurance companies.

Like you get a “discount” when you mark that you don’t smoke?

 

[lewisc]

Usually the individual hospital is best equipped to determine their need to postpone or reschedule appointments or procedures, based off of their own emergency management plan. I wasn’t a fan of when the governor did this before.

A hospital may have the capacity to perform profitable elective surgery. The region or state may not have enough capacity. There may be a need to move patients to hospitals rather then allow those hospitals to schedule elective surgeries.

 

[celluloid]

Like you get a “discount” when you mark that you don’t smoke?

That is actually where my thought went. But likely heavier as now smoking heavily is going to have even more risk of dying from lung complications of Covid19.

 

[lewisc]

There absolutely is a need. The last few pages have been all about that need.

Look, persuasion won't work, and as things get worse, it will work less. If someone changes there mind now, it means they have to acknowledge some responsibility for a very bad situation they might previously have pretended didn't exist. It means they have to consider that the pundits and politicians they trust were wrong, at the least misinformed and most like callously lying in the face of massive suffering. It calls into question all the other things those pundits and politicians have said. Even worse, it means their "enemies" were right.

That's a lot to ask of anyone, and most people won't do it. But getting vaccinated to save their job or be allowed in WDW? Yeah, they'll do that, especially if it allows them to hold onto all their other beliefs.

Some people will say they didn't want to get the vaccine when it was approved under EUA. Others might say they were waiting to see which vaccine was better

A few delayed getting the vaccine until those at risk had an opportunity. That explanation lost validity months ago

 

[Heppenheimer]

Usually the individual hospital is best equipped to determine their need to postpone or reschedule appointments or procedures, based off of their own emergency management plan. I wasn’t a fan of when the governor did this before.

Not always. Hospitals depend on the ability to make transfers, and sometimes in a squeeze, you need someone who can see the big picture to make these kinds of calls. This is usually a part of regional disaster planning.

 

[correcaminos]

And i would disagree with you on many of those laws. No need to keep sliding down the slope here. But your right in care settings it matters. Those institutions should keep everything tight. But disney world? Or publix? No need.

Doesn't matter if you agree or not, they do exist. So no slope.... it's done already as stated repeatedly.

What employers want will be what they do if it protects their profits and employees.

 

[havoc315]

Ok I thought you said this uptick in cases in the UK was evidence that cases in the US wouldn't drop anytime soon.

Said you can’t rely on it as evidence that the US will drop.. since they aren’t dropping.

Logic suggests that the surge will be worse in the US than the UK given our lower vaccination rate, but that would be a very low confidence projection given the numerous other factors at play. Our greater reliance on the mRNA vaccines, for example.
Thus, it’s certainly possible our surge will be less severe than the UK.

 

[DCBaker]

Data has appeared to have populated for Florida weekend numbers and yikes (divided between the two days).
July 7th- 28,316
July 8th- 28,317
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[Timmay]

Not always. Hospitals depend on the ability to make transfers, and sometimes in a squeeze, you need someone who can see the big picture to make these kinds of calls. This is usually a part of regional disaster planning.

I understand, that’s why I said “usually”. Part of my current job is helping hospitals and regions develop emergency operations plans and conducting and evaluating their required drills. As you pointed out, it’s almost always region dependent, not state dependent. And all regions and individual hospitals have the ability through EM software to keep tabs on what is happening at each other individual hospital…current bed status, diverts, etc. To me, this is a case of a governor attempting to look like he is doing “something.”

 

[GoofGoof]

So does that mean the weekend number was 28,317 for both days and should be split 14,159 a day?

Probably time to start daily reporting again to avoid this kind of error.

 

[SammyMF]

I read that as the 28k already being a number divided in half. Unless you think the number dropped from 24k to 14k in a single day.

 

[GoofGoof]

I read that as the 28k already being a number divided in half. Unless you think the number dropped from 24k to 14k in a single day.

The weekend drops off most weeks. The prior week it dropped from 21,683 to 16,998 in one day.

 

[chrisvee]

The last generation with widespread paralysis caused by poliomyelitis has now all but died off, so I wonder how much of that cultural memory is now gone. I had a great uncle severely paralyzed by the disease when he was a child. He spent most of his life in a Shriner's home, after spending several years in the hospital. Our visits to him were, to put it mildly, extremely sad affairs. The fact that we're debating "parental rights" over the public health of children is just mind-boggling. Especially when you see how poorly some children are treated by their own parents (I've seen things that should have given me PTSD in my career...)

So sorry about your great uncle. My uncle had it as a child and was fortunate to end with just one smaller, shorter leg (by about 2 inches) but he could walk with a special shoe and cane.

I think you have a point about cultural memory fading.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

So does that mean the weekend number was 28,317 for both days and should be split 14,159 a day?

Probably time to start daily reporting again to avoid this kind of error.

Yea never going to happen. We are talking Florida here. But they should.

 

[GoofGoof]

Yea never going to happen. We are talking Florida here. But they should.

Yeah, I know

It’s weird that they sent that tweet out to multiple outlets disputing their reporting of 28,317 cases for one day on Sunday but then didn’t clarify and say what the daily totals actually were on Sat and Sun. If you know it’s wrong you know what the right numbers are so just tell the people. Why play games?

 

[havoc315]

So does that mean the weekend number was 28,317 for both days and should be split 14,159 a day?

Probably time to start daily reporting again to avoid this kind of error.

No…. That the 56,000 was for 3 days, not 2. 19,000 per day.

 

[Polkadotdress]

So does that mean the weekend number was 28,317 for both days and should be split 14,159 a day?

Probably time to start daily reporting again to avoid this kind of error.

I read that as the 28k already being a number divided in half. Unless you think the number dropped from 24k to 14k in a single day.

Worldomwter has 28316 and 28317 for the past 2 days. So….

 

[Chomama]

Thank you for the most informative post ever

But I did my own research and Dan bongino said it wasn’t true!