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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Ship down the Javits center.
GimpYancIent
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An opportunity! Set up a vaccination facility outside the main access point. Not vaccinated? come and get vaccinated then proceed on and enjoy the festivities. People having fun will not or notice less any discomfort post vaccination. Stop brow beating people and ing folk's off rather develop some enthusiasm for vaccination by associating it with a good time.
SamusAranX
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If you’re unvaccinated in Florida, now is the time to truly shelter in place besides truly essential activities.
of course, no one will listen.
of course, no one will listen.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Gov. Greg Abbott takes action to mitigate rise in COVID-19 cases in Texas. Here’s what you should know
As COVID-19 cases spike in Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott announced Monday that he is taking action to mitigate the spread of the virus.
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Chi84
Premium Member
Are you being serious? Most vaccinations require 2 shots and don't take effect until weeks after they are given. How can people just get a shot and then "proceed on and enjoy the festivities" unless you don't think they present a danger in the first place? Maybe in connection with proof of a negative test going in?
KrzyKtty
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That won't really work because you need to wait 2 weeks after your final vaccination to be fully vaccinated. So if they're getting vaccinated for the first time then walking into the concert, there's not enough time. Unless I misunderstanding your post.
Timmay
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People must be fully vaccinated.
Objectively, Florida and Texas are having issues due to their lower than national average vaccination rates. My zip code in the midwest has 90% vaccinated, our cases are non-existent, and people are still freaking out, worried, and masking up.
On the other hand, there is some smidgeon of truth to this talking head talking point. There's a great documentary on Netflix called Pandemic that was released just prior to Covid in January 2020, where it was interviewing epidemiologists around the world regarding their fears. One of the episodes focused on the Mexican border and migrants crossing over. There was a lady, perhaps a nurse?, who volunteered her time and money to try and vaccinate those who were coming over, especially undocumented, against the flu. Apparently it is a major issue and one of biggest fears some scientists had about cross-country transmission. When you make that arduous journey you are stressed and have a lower immune system, you are cramped in small quarters, etc, and you become a primary vector for viruses.
Obviously this isn't the reason for the current spike, but it is a major concern within the scientific community for other reasons. Pretty common for people to take something that is technically truthful and use it for cross-purposes. But that still doesn't mean people should outright be dismissive of the issue. it is an issue. Another example of how extremism of any type is typically bad...
Right now, I'm more worried about the potential tropical storm impacting my upcoming weekend Disney trip than I am with Covid. But I'm vaccinated and will protect myself. Mainly worried about the fireworks for risk, and if we do get a storm then those won't be going off anyway.
On the other hand, there is some smidgeon of truth to this talking head talking point. There's a great documentary on Netflix called Pandemic that was released just prior to Covid in January 2020, where it was interviewing epidemiologists around the world regarding their fears. One of the episodes focused on the Mexican border and migrants crossing over. There was a lady, perhaps a nurse?, who volunteered her time and money to try and vaccinate those who were coming over, especially undocumented, against the flu. Apparently it is a major issue and one of biggest fears some scientists had about cross-country transmission. When you make that arduous journey you are stressed and have a lower immune system, you are cramped in small quarters, etc, and you become a primary vector for viruses.
Obviously this isn't the reason for the current spike, but it is a major concern within the scientific community for other reasons. Pretty common for people to take something that is technically truthful and use it for cross-purposes. But that still doesn't mean people should outright be dismissive of the issue. it is an issue. Another example of how extremism of any type is typically bad...
Right now, I'm more worried about the potential tropical storm impacting my upcoming weekend Disney trip than I am with Covid. But I'm vaccinated and will protect myself. Mainly worried about the fireworks for risk, and if we do get a storm then those won't be going off anyway.
GimpYancIent
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The objective is to get at least one vaccination in, get the process started. If one dose has already been administered, good, now get #2. The whole thing is to get this moving in a positive direction. The negative test thing is nice but it's about getting the vaccination negative connotations out and developing some enthusiasm to get vaccinated. Danger? What is being done now is Dangerous. Why are so many road blocks being placed in the way of getting people vaccinated by people that say they want to see people vaccinated?
correcaminos
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Except vaccinating the day of does nothing. If getting a life saving vaccine es people off that much, I suggest their priorities are severely misguided. Getting a vaccine doesn't need to be "fun"
I still say cold hard cash will garner more "enthusiasm" than anything else at this point. Limiting unvaccinated by choice people from "fun" activities is not a bad way to get people to shut up and vaccinate too. It might make them grumble, but enough places do it and they'll see how much they could be doing. Like dealing with toddlers really.
Timmay
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I don’t understand. What roadblocks.
Chi84
Premium Member
Well there'a another objective if the venue is marketing their event as being for vaccinated only. If they are then letting in people who are not vaccinated (and someone getting a shot on the way in is not yet protected), the people who relied on the safety factor of being around vaccinated people only would be a bit upset, don't you think?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Doesn't help for the festival, but long term, more shots in arms. It is obviously not the strategy they are taking or even the reason for only allowing vaccinated people to attend (they want the festival to be safe). But it is curious that we don't push for vaccinations to occur more at big events like these around the country. Was there a big vaccine drive at Lallapalooza? You already have the people there, put shots in arms.
Chi84
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Okay, I get the long-term strategy. But if a venue advertises an event as being limited to those who are vaccinated, how can they then just let in people getting a shot on the way in? What about the people who decided to attend the event because they knew the people around them would be vaccinated?
GoofGoof
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What is interesting is the CDC still hasn’t updated their table. Since FL is nearly 25% of the National cases that‘s a big overstatement of cases nationally too. This whole situation is a joke. Reporting stats shouldn‘t be so hard.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I know, I get it. The post about vaccinations at events just made me think about why we don't do that more often (as far as I know). There are plenty of big events that do not require vaccinations. So why not have a vaccine drive at these events?
GimpYancIent
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You do not understand "enthusiasm". The current strategies are not working. Do not confuse people wanting to with people having to. Up to now the emphasis has been on You Have To why not change the narrative from negative to positive. Yes how about fun, something will result in being healthier, happier. The current approach is not working and is abrasive.
Chi84
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Lollapalooza required proof that one was fully vaccinated. They weren't putting up tents, giving shots and then letting those people into the festival. That was the position I was responding to - not necessarily saying you are advocating this.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Ahh, I didn't know that particular event was fully vaccinated. But I think my point still stands for large events where it is not a requirement. They should do vaccine pushes while they have an audience.
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