Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Parker in NYC]

that's 10% of the breakthrough cases. I think I saw an article on CNN the other day said that the total number of break though cases represented .08% of all fully vaxxed people. That's pretty good odds, when you think that only about 10% of them may be spreading it, that's even lower.

So how do we get the rest vaccinated short of having the talking heads and politicians send signed permission slips and lollipops?

 

[Heelz2315]

So how do we get the rest vaccinated short of having the talking heads and politicians send signed permission slips and lollipops?

I don't know if they will. We'll get the numbers back down and some type of herd immunity by vaccinations and infections. They'll be part of the solution whether they like it or not. From looking at the numbers this is by far and large an epidemic of the unvaccinated. N That part the data is clear about. As someone who is fully vaxxed I am very irked this continues to drag on because alot of people refuse to help.

This will get resolved eventually one way or another.

 

[Lilofan]

How can they do that given the current orders issued in the state?

Rephrase - if they could, locals unvaccinated would get a rise.

 

[Joesixtoe]

I understand a lot of these comments about making life hard for people come from a place of fear, but I pray you guys don't let your hearts get to dark, cause it's going that way.

 

[DCBaker]

Breakdown by age from the OCDOH -

 

[Flugell]

This is a story circulating near us! Meant to make people smile and not intended to be the least political- am from U.K. so no axe to grind!

A woman was walking round a supermarket eg Walmart wearing a mask. Another customer mocked her and informed her that masking was no longer necessary. The woman replied that she wasn’t wearing the mask against COVID-19 but she’d heard a rumour that the government was trying to get face recognition on every citizen of the USA and she wanted to keep her face hidden. Wow said the second customer, put her hand in her pocket, removed a mask and put it on!

No offence intended, just thought it showed there’s more than one way to skin a cat!!

 

[StarWarsGirl]

This is a story circulating near us! Meant to make people smile and not intended to be the least political- am from U.K. so no axe to grind!

A woman was walking round a supermarket eg Walmart wearing a mask. Another customer mocked her and informed her that masking was no longer necessary. The woman replied that she wasn’t wearing the mask against COVID-19 but she’d heard a rumour that the government was trying to get face recognition on every citizen of the USA and she wanted to keep her face hidden. Wow said the second customer, put her hand in her pocket, removed a mask and put it on!

No offence intended, just thought it showed there’s more than one way to skin a cat!!

Not that I've ever had to defend my mask wearing, but all of my masks are Disney masks, so my prepared comeback for it is, "I'm wearing it because it's cute."

 

[drizgirl]

Less than 1% of fully vaccinated people experience a breakthrough Covid-19 infection, analysis finds

The Delta variant is wreaking havoc through much of the US, and an internal CDC document shows it spreads as easily as chickenpox. Follow here for the latest news.

www.cnn.com

I knew it was a complete joke that the CDC used the Cap Code breakthroughs as if they would apply to the majority of America.

You don't think that Cape Cod weekend was a microcosm of daily life for most people?

 

[Joesixtoe]

Please don't listen to people on message boards, go talk to your Doctor and make sure your healthy enough to get the vaccine.

 

[Epcotfan21]

You don't think that Cape Cod weekend was a microcosm of daily life for most people?

Haha. Not from the details I've read online.

 

[AEfx]

You don't think that Cape Cod weekend was a microcosm of daily life for most people?

And he apparently didn't even read to the second line of the article:

"The federal government only reports data on breakthrough infections that result in hospitalization or death."

 

[DisneyCane]

Remember my quotes were two week intervals, as on average an infected person is contagious for about 2 weeks.

Where is the 2 weeks coming from. Last time I looked into it the consensus was a few days.

 

[GimpYancIent]

You don't think that Cape Cod weekend was a microcosm of daily life for most people?

No!

 

[DisneyCane]

10% is still enough for me. Not a scientist, full disclosure.

10% of rare breakthrough infections is a very small percentage of fully vaccinated people.

 

[DisneyCane]

Thanks for always posting these reports. Do know if the test counts area available for the past few days? Was testing way down over the weekend or did positivity rates actually decline?

Test counts haven't updated been updated by the CDC (it isn't reported over the weekend by Florida - they will be backfilled in). There were still very long lines over the weekend at Barnett Park.

Don't forget the daily numbers are the day the test result is reported, not when the swab was taken. The labs seem to report fewer results over the weekend. It's been that way since the beginning.

That's why daily numbers don't mean much by themselves and analysis should be done in seven day averages.

 

[danlb_2000]

Please don't listen to people on message boards, go talk to your Doctor and make sure your healthy enough to get the vaccine.

Are there example of health conditions that would preclude you from getting the vaccine?

 

[hopemax]

0.5% of the Florida population got Covid this week. If the CDC is right and the R0 is 8 then we can expect 4% of the population to get sick over the next two weeks from Covid, and then the following 2 weeks that number balloons to 32%. That doesn’t count the people who get symptomatic after getting the disease from a person diagnosed before this week, just from last weeks case. This will happen until peak, which is again 2-3 weeks away. When you figure that the unvaccinated make up a minority of the population, 100% infected with Covid for the unvaxxed is not far off, especially if the peak is 3-4 weeks away. That’s why this is so scary.

It won't work this way, because of social dynamics and population densities and the CDC is likely overestimating the R0 and it's closer to the 6 that has been calculated elsewhere and not the 8. At the end of June, I posted a Twitter thread from the scientist who did the initial calculations about when SARS-COV-2 arrived in the US, how far it had spread, etc. He did some back of the envelope calculations and estimated that about 38% of the population has no immunity, and that a little less than a third of them will end up getting infected with Delta in this wave. Or about 36 million people Low confidence estimated, but even if it's half instead of a third, that still leaves quite a few people to be infected in even a later wave.

Unfortunately, we'll be riding this carousel at least one more time post-holiday gatherings this winter. People will underestimate how many people there are left to be infected, and then be surprised again when it ramps back up. Although, unless something changes with re-infections, at a lower peak than this one.

 

[correcaminos]

Are there example of health conditions that would preclude you from getting the vaccine?

We know the answer as a whole. Yes. Severe allergic reaction to an ingredient. History of severe reactions to vaccines. Certain health risks could point to getting a specific type of vaccine. Certain cancer treatments might make the vaccines less or not effective so delaying is sometimes suggested (a cousin went through that). There are reasons, but the number of those who will run into issues are few as a whole.

 

[danlb_2000]

We know the answer as a whole. Yes. Severe allergic reaction to an ingredient. History of severe reactions to vaccines. Certain health risks could point to getting a specific type of vaccine. Certain cancer treatments might make the vaccines less or not effective so delaying is sometimes suggested (a cousin went through that). There are reasons, but the number of those who will run into issues are few as a whole.

The op's wording of "healthy enough" seemed odd to me.

 

[correcaminos]

The op's wording of "healthy enough" seemed odd to me.

To be fair, one should never assume all here are not going through something. Talking to a doctor when you have health concerns is best.