Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DonniePeverley]

What method would you suggest that hasn’t already been tried? They can’t be bribed (lotto,) they can’t be reasoned with, and we have made it as hassle free as possible. The rabbit has rejected the carrot and you think any stick is too cruel yet it’s wrong just to allow them to die. This is not a thought experiment, this is the real world and any solution will be messy, either start selectively restricting their freedom, forcibly vaccinate, or watch them die. Each solution has its problems, and like it or not it’s clear the most politically expedient one is let them die, and we have a history in this country of always choosing the most politically expedient option.

To enter Disney you have to have had the vaccine if you are an adult. There ... that's one. The top brass need to push covid passports. Deny some pleasures in life in scenarios where people are posing a risk to others.

I don't want to go on Spiderman, stand in a long indoor queue next to unmasked non vaccinated people.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Sorry, so many things were listed in that post so I was talking about it all.

No worries.

 

[DonniePeverley]

Why do we keep saying they can’t be bribed.

This is just false.

In the last two days I alone have bribed 5 family members.

How can you not see the difference between a lotto you are not going to win and a guaranteed financial reward?

What bribes did you offer them?

 

[correcaminos]

To enter Disney you have to have had the vaccine if you are an adult. There ... that's one. The top brass need to push covid passports. Deny some pleasures in life in scenarios where people are posing a risk to others.

While I have always been fine with passports, even when I didn't know if I'd get proof of vaccine, we cannot do passports at Disney like that. Best we can do is like the cruises. State government is clear on what cannot be done.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

While I have always been fine with passports, even when I didn't know if I'd get proof of vaccine, we cannot do passports at Disney like that. Best we can do is like the cruises. State government is clear on what cannot be done.

This is definitely an instance where each state being able to do what they want works against us.

 

[DonniePeverley]

While I have always been fine with passports, even when I didn't know if I'd get proof of vaccine, we cannot do passports at Disney like that. Best we can do is like the cruises. State government is clear on what cannot be done.

The government can legislate anything. I don't quite grasp all this 'THEY SIMPLY CAN'T DO THAT' stated by people who aren't vaccinated.

 

[Slpy3270]

Hopefully return of indoor mask mandate will be ending very soon by next month or September for California.

They're going back to lockdown (or stay-at-home phase) by then. Mask mandates will do little to deal with Delta.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

They're going back to lockdown (or stay-at-home phase) by then. Mask mandates will do little to deal with Delta.

That simply isn't true. Masks have been proven time and again to reduce spread.

 

[Touchdown]

Ummm....there are dozens of Americans who want the vaccine but can't get it for a lot of reasons, like immune deficiency, lack of health insurance not shielding them from surprise bills, high debt, lack of adequate access to medical care as well as skepticism of a system that has screwed them for centuries.

And there a lot more of those in America than there are willing Japanese citizens, so our position is no better if not worse than last year despite the vaccines.

Incorrect. Japan has vaccinated less then 25% of its population and a large portion of that is very recently (which means for much of their spike people weren’t immune. It’s very different here

 

[Slpy3270]

That simply isn't true. Masks have been proven time and again to reduce spread.

Only masks *and* lockdowns together work.

 

[DisneyFan32]

That simply isn't true. Masks have been proven time and again to reduce spread.

How long mask mandate will be lift soon again as cases will go down lower again until FDA approval vaccine?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Only masks *and* lockdowns together work.

That's incorrect. The data proves it as we haven't been in full lockdown since May of last year.

 

[Chi84]

To enter Disney you have to have had the vaccine if you are an adult. There ... that's one. The top brass need to push covid passports. Deny some pleasures in life in scenarios where people are posing a risk to others.

I don't want to go on Spiderman, stand in a long indoor queue next to unmasked non vaccinated people.

Florida businesses cannot deny entry to people who are not vaccinated. It’s a law enacted by their legislature. The state does not agree with your (or my) stance on vaccination passports.

 

[dreday3]

Unfortunately, as deaths in the unvaccinated climb from Delta (and it will be reported), this will be the trigger to vaccinations ramping up.

Maybe September things will start to trend better again.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Unfortunately, as deaths in the unvaccinated climb from Delta (and it will be reported), this will be the trigger to vaccinations ramping up.

Maybe September things will start to trend better again.

Yeah. This fall/winter will way better than last year!

 

[Polkadotdress]

+8490 case counts today in FL.

#winning

 

[danlb_2000]

The government can legislate anything. I don't quite grasp all this 'THEY SIMPLY CAN'T DO THAT' stated by people who aren't vaccinated.

Disney probably doesn't want to get into a battle with the state over this.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Disney probably doesn't want to get into a battle with the state over this.

It's too bad Disney didn't team up with the cruise lines...they'd have a lot of strength together.

 

[correcaminos]

The government can legislate anything. I don't quite grasp all this 'THEY SIMPLY CAN'T DO THAT' stated by people who aren't vaccinated.

Florida says no vaccine passports because the gov. signed this into law. So not sure why you are yelling at me over this - just repeating what can and cannot be done. WDW cannot deny entry. They can make it different for each.

 

[Trauma]

Man I’m getting worried about my September trip.

I really don’t want to have to cancel because mask mandates come back.

I have no problem following mask mandates but I’m sure not paying 12k to use one in 95 degree heat.