EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

[GimpYancIent]

I may be in the minority here but I actually like most of what is happening at Epcot. GotG Coaster looks like its gonna be a pretty epic first of its kind thrill ride, Play pavilion looks like it would be great for kids (even though covid has postponed it) Space 220 looks fantastic in every way imo, New center spine area/revamped communicore looks like it will be cool, Im looking forward to what the interactive water walkthrough moana stuff is, France Pavilion expansion looks great, New gelataria seems nice, im all for new popcorn stand if its cool flavors, new entrance/lighting package looks fantastic....the only thing im not sold on is harmonious barges. Everything else Im on board.

Everything I just said is prob well above 1 billion dollars invested into epcot for this rebuild and I cant wait till its done!

I am with you on looking forward to this work being "done", but, not because I see all of these projects as enhancements. The turning EPCOT into a construction zone to do a large swathe of wreaking totally brought down the attractiveness of the park. This could have been done in a slower lower profile manner in smaller sections. More $$$$ spent does not mean higher quality nor being more attractive, the best example thus far is the Lagoon.

 

[J4546]

Do you mind providing the address of another reverse launching interior coaster that has cars that spin 360 degrees? How does excitement for that equate to living under a rock?

he cant....hes just a hater

 

[jt04]

I agree...or what department of Disney marketing do they work for... revitalized spine...lol

Am I the only one actually looking at the concept art? People said they missed the landscaping and water features. That is exactly what is happening.

 

[itsy bitsy spider]

Okay I am confused. I know others have explained this, but you continue to stick your head in the sand....

It is in world of Nature - and will be focus of the movie which is the importance of nature and water to life. Right near entrance of Seas and not far from land.

So if you can dig your head out, why exactly is this NOT a fit for EPCOT? I get the hate, everyone wants EPCOT to return to what it was. However, if we are going to nitpick ideas to death, can we at least do it somewhat objectively and not just pout for no good reason?

It is NOT a splash pad as you pouted about and got shown for real
It is NOT a space blocker - as there are other paths around
So does it need the IP tie in , no. I will give to you there. But if it enhances the entrances to Land and Sea and has a purpose to share importance of water and nature, then lets wait to see what we actually get?

You're wrong, Moana doesn't belong in Epcot.

It belongs in Adventureland in the Magic Kingdom. Just because a movie has water in it doesn't mean it belongs in the nature section.

 

[J4546]

assuming its a beautiful walkthrough exhibit i think it will fit great. Im looking forward to see what it actually looks like when its built!

 

[Bocabear]

they missed some landscaping or water features... because they paved over them to make a HUGE courtyard... that doesn't mean tear down the building and replace it with trees...it just means restore the missing landscape and water features...
This de-furbishment of Communicore adds nothing to the overall experience except you have to walk a long long way to reach shelter or anything to do... It is going to be great in the frequent rainstorms Florida is known for... No one is paying $100+ to visit a public park...
Revitalized attractions, restored landscape and water features would have been the direction VS tearing down half of the entrance plaza...

 

[Phicinfan]

You're wrong, Moana doesn't belong in Epcot.

It belongs in Adventureland in the Magic Kingdom. Just because a movie has water in it doesn't mean it belongs in the nature section.

No you're wrong. It has to do with Nature, which potentially fits in EPCOT in the World of Nature area. See, I can do this all day as well. Your opinion does not make YOU right.

 

[Goofy Ninja]

I honestly don't see why not. This is lightly themed and therefore will not necessarily preclude Moana from getting an actual attraction in another park, and there's really no functional difference between this and "The Seas with Nemo and Friends" or even "Test Track brought to you by Chevrolet".

Just because the dog on my carpet once doesn't mean I want him to pee on it too.

Moana has a park it should go in... it's called Magic Kingdom.

 

[J4546]

i disagree but its all good

 

[Horizons '83]

Gringotts is trash. (I know you never commented on it being good or not, but just felt like putting it out there.)

- Someone flying to Orlando tomorrow that will only be visiting the Uni parks

To each their own, its my wife and my favorite ride in USO.

 

[Phicinfan]

they missed some landscaping or water features... because they paved over them to make a HUGE courtyard... that doesn't mean tear down the building and replace it with trees...it just means restore the missing landscape and water features...
This de-furbishment of Communicore adds nothing to the overall experience except you have to walk a long long way to reach shelter or anything to do... It is going to be great in the frequent rainstorms Florida is known for... No one is paying $100+ to visit a public park...
Revitalized attractions, restored landscape and water features would have been the direction VS tearing down half of the entrance plaza...

No one was paying $100 for an empty communicore. We almost all would have preferred an up to date EPCOT as it was. That ship has sailed.
I will add we still haven't gotten any verification, unless I missed it, that Communicore on that side was torn down solely due to this. I believe it was also the bar stool building that was part of the cause.

That all being said, it doesn't rain all that much, they make a ton off of all the booths and such for each festival that are outside, and this potentially has the ability to give some beautiful variation vs. tables and chairs for a bar.

 

[Bocabear]

Moana would also fit beautifully in the Animal Kingdom...creating an entice Pacific Island section of the park...A ride, a nature walk and tidal pool discovery area replacing Chester and Hester and leading up to the Nemo show... It would fit seamlessly and be a real upgrade from the spinner ride and games of chance that are left there.

 

[Phicinfan]

Just because the dog **** on my carpet once doesn't mean I want him to pee on it too.

Moana has a park it should go in... it's called Magic Kingdom.

Just for the record.... We are wanting to place Moana in MK for adventure land yes? Isn't that profiling?

wouldn't DHS also work? Isn't that the movie park?

 

[Phicinfan]

Moana would also fit beautifully in the Animal Kingdom...creating an entice Pacific Island section of the park...A ride, a nature walk and tidal pool discovery area replacing Chester and Hester and leading up to the Nemo show... It would fit seamlessly and be a real upgrade from the spinner ride and games of chance that are left there.

Actually, I fully agree with this, This could have been a huge hit had they expanded and tied it into a pacific island theme and such....

 

[MisterPenguin]

You're wrong, Moana doesn't belong in Epcot.

It belongs in Adventureland in the Magic Kingdom. Just because a movie has water in it doesn't mean it belongs in the nature section.

Neither do corporate sponsors belong in Epcot. And yet, they have been and are there.

In fact, a corporate sponsor pushed Disney to perpetuate a myth about oil (that it came from dinosaurs). So much for edutainment. [And yes, the Ellen version didn't perpetuate it explicitly, but they still inexplicably kept the dinosaurs in the attraction.]

Test Track has a corporate sponsor: GM. And the product GM is hawking is Chevrolet cars. Just the perfect thing for a "Future World".... a gas engine car!! What a world of the future we're going to have!!!

JoW has a corporate sponsor: Disney. And the product Disney is hawking is Moana. It's a movie in which the sea was a living thing. That seems to mesh with a "journey of water" leading to "the living seas."

Beats a combustion engine.

 

[Bocabear]

I am still laughing at "It doesn't rain that much" in Florida...

 

[itsy bitsy spider]

No you're wrong. It has to do with Nature, which potentially fits in EPCOT in the World of Nature area. See, I can do this all day as well. Your opinion does not make YOU right.

By your logic then any movie can be allowed in Epcot that has water. Might as well put Tom Sawyer's Island and Splash Mountain in this park then. Let's see! Princess and The Frog has swamp water, you want that as well?

 

[Phicinfan]

I am still laughing at "It doesn't rain that much" in Florida...

Great for you, ignore the whole outside booths and such as part of the argument. you slay me dude

 

[Phicinfan]

By your logic then any movie can be allowed in Epcot that has water. Might as well put Tom Sawyer's Island and Splash Mountain in this park then. Let's see Princess and The Frog has swamp water, you want that as well?

No, because you can't seem to read. Moana is focused on nature and how Water plays a key role in life. They are putting this nature area right in front of the Seas and Land that have the same message. Perhaps if Disney has a plan somewhat after all, and once again, some just want to complain, cause....

 

[Bocabear]

Rains almost every afternoon in the summer... dude.
20000 Leagues lagoon surrounding The Living Seas...now THAT would have looked spectacular.