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EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot
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Sirwalterraleigh
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sedati
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The hype is that we are getting a coaster that acts like an omnimover (an EPCOT staple.) Spinning coasters exist, but one that has its speed and POV controlled and timed with show scenes? Has it been done before? I'm not familiar if so.
Technically, they don't spin... at least not freely. They have a controlled rotation, like the Doom Buggies. They face the way the coaster creators chose at certain points along the ride. Which makes this coaster rarer, if not unique.
true but in my fantasy the coaster entrance area would be located by star tours (muppets stuff would have to be reloacted) and they could have it themed as endor to fit and expand that area into its own mini land in its own timeline. That way you make 2 separate star wars lands in DHS. Then imagine expanding indiana jones area and how well you could blend endor into tropical jungle ruins of an IJ ride. that would have a pretty good flow going from jungle to jungle.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
you old fart...
Indiana Jones and coherent Star Wars is NOT what their market analysts are saying will sell
UNCgolf
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That's great news. Even when I was a kid/teenager coasters didn't really do much for me in an entertainment sense (I want something to see; not just G forces), but now that I'm older they have a tendency to give me motion sickness. The idea of freely spinning ride vehicles sounded like a vomit machine and would have probably prevented me from ever even trying to ride GotG.
If they just rotate to face what are hopefully decent show scenes, I'll at least be able to ride it once to see if it's actually any good.
doctornick
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Right, I think that’s the point that’s trying to be made here. A controlled spin roller coaster that directs attention to show scenes should be fairly unique (maybe not first of its kind - I don’t know though - but far from common). We don’t know how good the execution will be but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be excited for as a new unique Disney experience. The biggest concerns seemed focused on the sight lines and appropriateness to the environment not necessarily the quality
doctornick
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I’m iffy on how the central area will turn out and agree with a lot of the sight lines concerns (especially Harmonious). But I’m with you in that I’m excited by pretty much everything we are getting. It all looks like pretty cool to me and I’m looking forward to GOTG, Ratatouille, Space 220, Harmonious and even Play and JoW.
I haven’t been very impressed or captivated with Innoventions for years and I feel like Play will replace most of that value. I will miss Sum of All Thrills though which was an excellent hidden gem. I like that new films have come and will be coming (China).
I do think Epcot still needs more - would be nice if the long rumored Brazil or India pavilions would actually happen or if they would add some stuff to existing ones - but I’m happy they’re doing stuff. I know it’s not what many purists here and I respect that. It’s not what I would have done either. But I feel like at least what they are doing will be well received and enjoyable.
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James Alucobond
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Just give it a little tip
onto its side.From its description, it sounds like it's an interactive experience that explores the water cycle. Not terribly different from the interactive exhibits that once occupied Innoventions, some of which even veered into the territory of environmentalism at times. I have to wonder if Journey of Water would be as poorly received if it were more of a large-scale terrarium housed in the former Innoventions building. I get being sad over the loss of the building, but I don't find the proposed content of Journey of Water to be incompatible with what stood there before. It just happens to not have a roof over it.
I'm in the same boat. The only three things that give me heartburn are the lagoon views of Harmonious, the backstage views of France on the skyliner, and the Cosmic Rewind box (not the ride itself). So, it's all to do with visuals. They also need to put some of the proposed stuff back on the table (though maybe not literally "The Table") and get a move on with an Imagination rework.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
By the way...gringotts is a “controlled show piece” directed roller coaster.
that’s what it does. So the system is not unique.
I know people will splain it away and talk about 3D...etc etc etc...but that doesn’t change the ride.
it doesn’t have to be “first” to be a really good ride though. Flight of passage is a first and is a pretty great ride...tower of terror is a first and was was great ride. Other more recent “firsts” aren’t as good. Doesn’t guarantee anything
that’s what it does. So the system is not unique.
I know people will splain it away and talk about 3D...etc etc etc...but that doesn’t change the ride.
it doesn’t have to be “first” to be a really good ride though. Flight of passage is a first and is a pretty great ride...tower of terror is a first and was was great ride. Other more recent “firsts” aren’t as good. Doesn’t guarantee anything
SplashJacket
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Gringotts is trash. (I know you never commented on it being good or not, but just felt like putting it out there.)
- Someone flying to Orlando tomorrow that will only be visiting the Uni parks
MadTeacup
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Except it's not launched and has almost no gravity-powered acceleration, so the Guardians system is unique.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I must have missed the lift hill?
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Actually, I only share two of your concerns. The backstage views of France (while I haven’t seen them with my own eyes) will likely not offend me. Not all of the views from the buses are perfect either. Even less attractive views are afforded from the Monorail.
Our family has long accepted that sometimes you see what our kids called “Disney guts” from the transportation systems. Shrug.
MadTeacup
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No. You didn't. No lift and no launch.I must have missed the lift hill?
There's a drop, a ton of friction-drive tires that move you along the track much like the old Disneyland Peoplemover, a few motion bases, switch tracks, and some brakes.
TikibirdLand
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I guess the dirt piles are kinda open...
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I just read the whole description...and I hadn’t before.
they did a pretty great job of combining a bunch of different elements. I don’t love gringotts but it seems they managed to do a pretty ingenious job.
forget guardians...what they did on gringotts would have probavly made for a much better ride over in mgm
No Name
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Do you mind providing the address of another reverse launching interior coaster that has cars that spin 360 degrees? How does excitement for that equate to living under a rock?
Bocabear
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I agree...or what department of Disney marketing do they work for... revitalized spine...lol