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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Parker in NYC

Parker in NYC

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jlhwdw said:
Watch out. I've learned not to suggest some people or media outlets are fear mongering or over exaggerating continued risk among the vaccinated around here.
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Yes, watch out. I'm always watching.

Just make sure you turn in your paperwork before you leave for the day.
 
Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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danlb_2000 said:
Not off to a good start....

www.cnn.com

2 passengers on Celebrity Millennium cruise test positive for coronavirus

Two guests aboard the first major sea cruise hosting Americans since the pandemic halted the industry have tested positive for coronavirus in required end-of-cruise testing, the cruise line said Thursday.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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This doesn't sound so bad to me. Two guests (so far) and they're asymptomatic.

We know that a small percentage of vaccinated people will still get COVID, and the fact they didn't get sick shows the vaccine is working as intended.

I wouldn't personally be getting on a cruise ship right now, but this shows that a cruise can occur safely. COVID is manageable in this situation.
 
ABQ

ABQ

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What's the big deal? If they are vaccinated, the symptoms ought to be mild. If 95% of the passengers were vaccinated, very few other will likely test positive. I'm not sure I see the issue here? What am I missing? Not sure who's statement it is in the article, the writer or if they are parroting someone else, but as they say, "these cases are not unexpected"
I am curious that if it's just these 2 people, then what is unique about them? What vaccine did they have, and when? How long ago? And so forth.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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007mickey said:
But to be fair, you can't just "debunk" everything else she brought up. It's good to hear all sides and angles of this issue. And scientists can be political too.
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Scientists in the UK are calling for a delay in the lifting of restrictions based on the fact—and it is a fact—that the Delta variant is causing a rise in cases and hospitalisations. The delay need not be long; all that’s required is for more people to be vaccinated, which shouldn’t be difficult given the success of the UK vaccine rollout.

How is any of that political?
 
sullyinMT

sullyinMT

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ABQ said:
What's the big deal? If they are vaccinated, the symptoms ought to be mild. If 95% of the passengers were vaccinated, very few other will likely test positive. I'm not sure I see the issue here? What am I missing? Not sure who's statement it is in the article, the writer or if they are parroting someone else, but as they say, "these cases are not unexpected"
I am curious that if it's just these 2 people, then what is unique about them? What vaccine did they have, and when? How long ago? And so forth.
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The biggest deal, for most families, would be being stuck out of the country. Getting enough viral load to test positive and not being able to board a flight. Like others have said, if it ends up being just these two (or some other small number), and they remain asymptomatic, the concept of vaccinated cruises doesn't fail from this one story.

Also, the two were sharing a stateroom. 95% vaccinated, so were either or both not vaccinated (ie, under 16)? Details are a little thin right now.
 
ABQ

ABQ

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LittleBuford said:
Scientists in the UK are calling for a delay in the lifting of restrictions based on the fact—and it is a fact—that the Delta variant is causing a rise in cases and hospitalisations. The delay need not be long; all that’s required is for more people to be vaccinated, which shouldn’t be difficult given the success of the UK vaccine rollout.

How is any of that political?
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You sure about the rise in hospitalizations? I posed this same delta variant spike matter a few days back and was informed by someone here that it's certainly causing cases to go up, but not so much deaths and hospitalizations. Numbers I'm seeing in the past two weeks show the UK daily new admissions going from 127 to 133, not much of a spike. England is rising slightly while Scotland and Wales are dropping slightly. Norther Ireland is flat.
 
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GimpYancIent

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Wendy Pleakley said:
This doesn't sound so bad to me. Two guests (so far) and they're asymptomatic.

We know that a small percentage of vaccinated people will still get COVID, and the fact they didn't get sick shows the vaccine is working as intended.

I wouldn't personally be getting on a cruise ship right now, but this shows that a cruise can occur safely. COVID is manageable in this situation.
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Sure. Will this cruise now be an extended until medical clearance at the home port?
 
ABQ

ABQ

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sullyinMT said:
The biggest deal, for most families, would be being stuck out of the country. Getting enough viral load to test positive and not being able to board a flight. Like others have said, if it ends up being just these two (or some other small number), and they remain asymptomatic, the concept of vaccinated cruises doesn't fail from this one story.
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OK, I get that. Though it's certainly a risk any of these early cruise ship passengers ought to be prepared to deal with, and I'm sure they were.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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The purpose of test cruises was to "test" covid related policies and procedures. Does anyone really believe that any reasonable mitigation techniques would be enough to prevent the spread of the virus on a cruise ship?
 
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GimpYancIent

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danlb_2000 said:
The purpose of test cruises was to "test" covid related policies and procedures. Does anyone really believe that any reasonable mitigation techniques would be enough to prevent the spread of the virus on a cruise ship?
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And the test came out POSITIVE! Reality is cruise ships do not enjoy a great health record pre-COVID so this is not earth shaking.
 
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