Reading that article and seeing them go on about teens in hospitals and getting severely sick is why we need to stop fixating on deaths.
CDC director 'deeply concerned' over rise in teens hospitalized with Covid
The chief of the CDC implored parents to talk with teens about the importance of wearing masks and to "encourage them to get vaccinated."www.nbcnews.com
Goes back to what @ParentsOf4 said. It depends on your definition of “old”. If anyone over 30 is old then yes, most deaths are in “old people” if you define anyone over 65 as old then there are still a lot of deaths between 30 and 64.
The narrative (at least from me) was never that only old people die from COVID. The narrative was/is that the risk of death once infected is significantly higher for the elderly.I brought this up a few pages back. With 86% of 65+ vaccinated the fact that deaths are still this high blows a huge hole in the narrative that only old people die from Covid. The vast majority of high risk people have been vaccinated. Deaths are down and so are hospitalizations, but not to the level people expected. I’m hoping that it’s just the idea that they are lagging stats and in a month that changes. In my opinion with the level of vaccination we are achieving we should get well below 100 deaths a day.
There is a concerning trend of increased serious infection in unvaccinated young people which happens to be the group least likely to be vaccinated. The article below talks about the increase in hospitalizations among teens and young people comparing Jan-Mar to April. Almost a third of the hospitalizations were in people with no underlying health conditions. The level of hospitalization was also over 3 times greater than the average flu season. This blows major holes in the theory that vaccinating teens doesn‘t matter or doesn’t count in the stats and that Covid is somehow less of a risk than flu in kids and young adults. We have to continue to push vaccinations, especially in younger people. We need to work to kill the narrative that covid is only an old person’s disease.
‘Deeply concerned:’ COVID hospitalization rates in teens doubled in a month, CDC says
Consistent with demographics of adults, about two thirds of the hospitalized teens were Hispanic or Black.www.yahoo.com
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The CDC plan isn’t no masks for anyone right now. The CDC and the federal government don‘t control mask rules anyway. There have been no masks mandated by the state of FL since September.
I'm fine with different approaches in different areas. My issue is those places that have decided that since vaccines are available it's good enough. I saw earlier some one post their region is only 40% vaccinated and yet no masks for everyone.
I think the CDC is going to broad brush their policies and stay out of local guidance. The trend looks to be a gradual backing out and pushing people toward making their own decisions.... just like you have. It may sound coarse to say so but I think they realize this is going to a regional or local issue and hots spots will either dead-end the virus through infection or panicked local populations that suddenly wise up and vaccinate (get off their lazy butts).
I wouldn’t feel very good about no masks for anyone with only 40% vaccinated. Thankfully I don’t live somewhere that is like that. I feel bad for the people who do live there, especially people with kids under 12, but I can’t change how the local governments there reacted. I don’t even have a vote in their elections.
That's never been my argument. My argument has been all along that since vaccines are here the dropping of mitigations should be tied to vaccination rates and not cases at all. IMO masks should be required indoors in all places til a certain percentage of eligible people are vaccinated. I personally think all states should follow what Orange county did with their policy. Its the only way to make sure you avoid those outbreaks. Going by how most feel here that Covid is over.
. IMO it's far from it especially considering the vaccination rate drop off.
Many states have followed a similar plan. Indoor masks mandates still exist in most of the same states that had them all along. 14 states which are home to over 1/3 of the population have now exceeded 70% of adults vaccinated with 1 shot. Some of those states have set dates for the removal of the rest of the Covid restrictions and some already started. In the other states with the other 2/3 of the population it’s a mixed bag. Some have kept mitigations like mask mandates and others have not or never had them in the first place.That's never been my argument. My argument has been all along that since vaccines are here the dropping of mitigations should be tied to vaccination rates and not cases at all. IMO masks should be required indoors in all places til a certain percentage of eligible people are vaccinated. I personally think all states should follow what Orange county did with their policy. Its the only way to make sure you avoid those outbreaks. Going by how most feel here that Covid is over.
Hello Florida Man!
That’s a misnomer. The State of Florida never mattered to us here in South Florida with the most people and the most cases. Local government mandates kept Florida as a whole from having far worse numbers by keeping our mandates. And when the Governor (
) “invalidated” those mandates recently, we mostly ignored him and went on masking. 80-90% of people in a Publix supermarket are still masking down here.
According to CDC data, over 50% of the population of FL has had at least one dose. The high population counties are all above 40% vaccinated (at least one dose).
Actually, I'm in Maine, and there are counties with low vaccination. We're kind of like two states here!
That's correct.
FL is really at a little under 8 per 100k. I'm guessing that through Friday, the times was putting in a daily number. There will always be a number for each seven day period posted on Friday which then provides a seven day average. It will only change once per week. Basically, once the data they are using starts including six days of zero and one day of a weekly total the seven day average will work out.
Of course it was largely the areas where the local government mandates were "saving" the State that had the worst "numbers" throughout the pandemic. It's only ceasing to be the case (on a per 100k level) now because those areas also have the highest vaccination rates. What saved the State (and the country) was the availability of highly effective vaccines, not local government mandates. Do you not see the irony that you are talking about Broward still having significant cases while people are still masking at 80-90% while pointing out that nobody is masking in Indian River County and they only had 10 cases?That’s a misnomer. The State of Florida never mattered to us here in South Florida with the most people and the most cases. Local government mandates kept Florida as a whole from having far worse numbers by keeping our mandates. And when the Governor (
We just went up to Sebastian, FL for the weekend and experienced a bit of culture shock: we walked into Publix and hardly anyone was masked. We stayed at a resort where there was some fishing tournament, and the restaurants were all packed for dinner, plus there was kind of an outdoor club connected to them. No one was masked, and the only reasons I felt comfortable staying was it was completely open-air, we were all vaccinated. But it was like being in another world.
Also, I had checked the stats. For June 23 (I think) we had over 200 new cases in Broward County (down a lot but still not insignificant, and higher than the 7 day average, which could indicate an increase.) Nearby Miami Dade was even higher, and Palm Beach, lower. These counties all have cross-traffic every day, so I check all three.
Indian River County, where we visited, had 10. Ten new cases in the whole county. Again, totally different world.