The Visionary Soul
Well-Known Member
Not gonna happen. But hey. I got my popcorn and I’ll gladly watch this debate.
Except their cases are on the rise, all they did was kick the can down the road.
Why do you lie like that?
New Zealand...
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Australia....
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Thank you.Wishing you the best
If we were we would be talking about who the festival performers will be, the recent ride openings and how screwed up all the decisions made by TDO in the last ten years have been.Supporting data from New Zealand government of the low amount of cases and most are being detected at the border:
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COVID-19
About the Ministry of Health’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic and our long-term management strategy.www.health.govt.nz
I would love it if our country was in the same situation New Zealand is in regards to active cases.
I’m all for a real lockdown and travel ban.
Hmmmmm. Haven't been following this thread have you?I’m all for a real lockdown and travel ban.
Different dancers same dance.I just find the outrage over Biden even considering something so “against the constitution” to be ironic. How many of the same people were outraged when Trump considered it? Or was it OK because it was just Seattle being restricted? I also remember many people fully supporting the FL Governor attempting to block NYers from trying to come to FL in April. He left that restriction in place into July for no good reason.
I don’t think it’s going to happen anyway, but there are ways to limit travel to/from an area without an outright ban on travel. It’s possible they would consider just having the CDC issue guidance to avoid traveling to/from specific areas with surges in cases of the new variant. It wouldn’t be physically stopping people but it would deter a lot of unnecessary travel if that’s the goal.
I think regardless of if any kind of restriction happens, it does show that there is a very high level of concern for Florida in regard to the U.K. variant taking hold. I think that is the more important part of this.
Be careful what you wish for.
Our cases in the UK have gone down from 68,000 a day to 12/13,000 this week and are currently dealing around 25% week on week. Hospitalisations and ICU cases are also going down, especially in the over 80s of which 90% have been vaccinated. We will have vaccinated around 25% of our people in a few days.
However, we are now using quarantine hotels if you come from a red list country (one of which is Portugal with Spain likely next), and our health minister has said if you dont declare you are coming back from a country such as this you can be thrown in jail for 10 years. Never mind its illegal to travel anyway, not only abroad but within the UK and even between counties in England.
We have the ridiculous situation where tonight a government source reassured parents that they can take their children to the playground 'for exercise' but they aren't allowed to socialise with other children or adults. We have been told today no summer holidays are likely either at home or abroad and that restrictions will be the same until the autumn when jabs for variants are produced!
We have no sign or no hope of getting out of this any time soon - in fact the restrictions seem to be getting worse. We seem to be finding variants behind every sofa which will keep us locked up for most of this year IMO - very depressing
problem for us is you got rid of your liability in office thank goodness but we havent!Thanks for sharing your perspective. I would feel lost and depressed too.
Agreed it is depressing but also necessary. The reason for the quarantine hotels and restrictions is because we (U.K.) are vaccinating much more quickly than most. Apparently we have vaccinated more people than France, Portugal and I think Spain combined! It is pointless to bring down our infection rates and then allow people to travel and restart the infections.Be careful what you wish for.
Our cases in the UK have gone down from 68,000 a day to 12/13,000 this week and are currently dealing around 25% week on week. Hospitalisations and ICU cases are also going down, especially in the over 80s of which 90% have been vaccinated. We will have vaccinated around 25% of our people in a few days.
However, we are now using quarantine hotels if you come from a red list country (one of which is Portugal with Spain likely next), and our health minister has said if you dont declare you are coming back from a country such as this you can be thrown in jail for 10 years. Never mind its illegal to travel anyway, not only abroad but within the UK and even between counties in England.
We have the ridiculous situation where tonight a government source reassured parents that they can take their children to the playground 'for exercise' but they aren't allowed to socialise with other children or adults. We have been told today no summer holidays are likely either at home or abroad and that restrictions will be the same until the autumn when jabs for variants are produced!
We have no sign or no hope of getting out of this any time soon - in fact the restrictions seem to be getting worse. We seem to be finding variants behind every sofa which will keep us locked up for most of this year IMO - very depressing
With vents? Nope.I guess the optimal mask level the "Authorities" are going for eventually will be:View attachment 531067
I know people are generally wimpy about masks, but just anecdotally I can say that I’ve been double masking since September while teaching all day (kn95 with surgical over). I’m also 8 months pregnant. It’s really not a big deal. Sometimes I’ve gone outside if I get dizzy cuz it’s already a little harder to breathe teaching all day while growing a human, but you get used to it. Access is totally different. But I’m always amazed when people complain. On my preps I just wear the surgical and it feels like wearing a cloud in comparisonI think using the term "double-masking" may turn some people off to this, I know I have already seen in on my Facebook feed. What we are really talking about here is the quality of masking. We have probably gotten everyone who is going to wear a mask to wear one, but now we need to focus in more on wearing the best available mask. If you have a good quality, well fitting, multi-layer mask, then double masking really isn't necessary. If that's not what you have access to, then multiple layers of less ideal masks is a good alternative.
What will they do when there are new variants by the time jabs for the current variants are produced? Perpetual restrictions?Be careful what you wish for.
Our cases in the UK have gone down from 68,000 a day to 12/13,000 this week and are currently dealing around 25% week on week. Hospitalisations and ICU cases are also going down, especially in the over 80s of which 90% have been vaccinated. We will have vaccinated around 25% of our people in a few days.
However, we are now using quarantine hotels if you come from a red list country (one of which is Portugal with Spain likely next), and our health minister has said if you dont declare you are coming back from a country such as this you can be thrown in jail for 10 years. Never mind its illegal to travel anyway, not only abroad but within the UK and even between counties in England.
We have the ridiculous situation where tonight a government source reassured parents that they can take their children to the playground 'for exercise' but they aren't allowed to socialise with other children or adults. We have been told today no summer holidays are likely either at home or abroad and that restrictions will be the same until the autumn when jabs for variants are produced!
We have no sign or no hope of getting out of this any time soon - in fact the restrictions seem to be getting worse. We seem to be finding variants behind every sofa which will keep us locked up for most of this year IMO - very depressing
That’s the worry - our PM seems perpetually spooked by the scientists now and we do have SAGE scientists spouting off on every need program they can find over here terrifying everyone so people are just asking for more and more restrictionsWhat will they do when there are new variants by the time jabs for the current variants are produced? Perpetual restrictions?
So do you actually think 10 years in jail is proportionate? We are going down a really sticky path here one which is boxed in with no escape - it’s so difficult to lift these sorts of travel restrictions once they are in as Australia etc are finding!Agreed it is depressing but also necessary. The reason for the quarantine hotels and restrictions is because we (U.K.) are vaccinating much more quickly than most. Apparently we have vaccinated more people than France, Portugal and I think Spain combined! It is pointless to bring down our infection rates and then allow people to travel and restart the infections.
In my opinion it is better to remain restricted a little longer than risk infections rising and having to start again. The variants are appearing in greater quantities but that’s because the U.K. are actively looking for them so vaccines can be tweaked.
Australia, who have very few cases, have banned international travel till at least October and have only just allowed travel between states. We are not alone in restricting travel. It’s a complete pain but whilst the virus is at large in the world- and it is a worldwide pandemic- international travel must be restricted and mandatory quarantine enforced.
Now you can feel truly depressed!
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