Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[dreday3]

Fun question

How will you all feel about crowding up for parades/fireworks when this is all over? I'm talking pre-pandemic style.



Personally, I think I will find my own little hidden space that's not as crowded.

Won't bother me in the slightest. People already crowd each other still. Target and other grocery stores here, no one is social distancing hardly except in the actual line, it's annoying.

People were standing on top of us on an escalator the other day.

Masks give a lot of people a false sense of security. They think if they wear them, they can stand right next to me!

 

[Mr Mindcrime]

Masks give a lot of people a false sense of security. They think if they wear them, they can stand right next to me

I think a large population of people do that, mask or no mask. It seems to have been that way for a long time. It's some strange human phenomenon I think (disclaimer: I'm NO psychologist). Even driving down a not-so-crowded highway you'll see cars bunched up side by side, bumper to bumper. I'm definitely not in that group of people. Give me distance folks!

 

[GimpYancIent]

I think a large population of people do that, mask or no mask. It seems to have been that way for a long time. It's some strange human phenomenon I think (disclaimer: I'm NO psychologist). Even driving down a not-so-crowded highway you'll see cars bunched up side by side, bumper to bumper. I'm definitely not in that group of people. Give me distance folks!

True! Some people cluster no matter how much space is available. See that on roadways, hiking paths, parks etc. Why? I do not think anyone really knows and I, personally, do not care. I apparently am one of the few that prefers to avoid these groupings. Elbow room is a good thing. However, masks are an extra layer / barrier as I negotiate my way around and by the clusters.

 

[Heppenheimer]

I think a large population of people do that, mask or no mask. It seems to have been that way for a long time. It's some strange human phenomenon I think (disclaimer: I'm NO psychologist). Even driving down a not-so-crowded highway you'll see cars bunched up side by side, bumper to bumper. I'm definitely not in that group of people. Give me distance folks!

Out of all the regions where I have lived, metro DC drivers are the worst with this. If there is any distance at all between cars, they will almost instinctually close it. All tailgating (the traffic kind), all the time.

And yet, ever observe people in a crowded elevator? They will exhibit the exact opposite behavior. As soon as space allows, they will adjust their distance.

 

[Mr Mindcrime]

Out of all the regions where I have lived, metro DC drivers are the worst with this. If there is any distance at all between cars, they will almost instinctually close it. All tailgating (the traffic kind), all the time.

And yet, ever observe people in a crowded elevator? They will exhibit the exact opposite behavior. As soon as space allows, they will adjust their distance.

Very interesting observations. I've lived all over the country as well and yes, some places are worse than others (don't get me started on the speeding and lane changing of Atlanta drivers...). And you are right about the elevator behavior. Maybe someone on this forum with a psychology background can enlighten us.

 

[sullyinMT]

Very interesting observations. I've lived all over the country as well and yes, some places are worse than others (don't get me started on the speeding and lane changing of Atlanta drivers...). And you are right about the elevator behavior. Maybe someone on this forum with a psychology background can enlighten us.

I was just going to chime in on Atlanta. I worked in Marietta for the better part of five years, and the whole 75 corridor from Chattanooga to Macon is atrocious for driver behavior. When we go back to visit friends, it takes a day or two to remember how to drive to survive.

As for re entering crowds, I don’t know that it will change our WDW behavior to much. Maybe in queues we’ll instinctively give a touch of space. I think Disney will have a hard time cramming busses the way they did before, at least for a while.

We enjoy HEA, but we were never hub attendees before, and would prefer a less optimal viewing area for a few inches of space to breathe. The other nighttime shows were pretty well spaced before.

 

[Lilofan]

Out of all the regions where I have lived, metro DC drivers are the worst with this. If there is any distance at all between cars, they will almost instinctually close it. All tailgating (the traffic kind), all the time.

And yet, ever observe people in a crowded elevator? They will exhibit the exact opposite behavior. As soon as space allows, they will adjust their distance.

DC drivers are correct. I was driving through DC crossing into VA on I-95 and commuters driving to work were very aggressive in their speed and tailgating at high speed.

 

[mmascari]

The mRNA vaccines need to be kept so cold because they use lipid nanoparticles (likely the source of the tracking nanobots nutso conspiracy theory) to encase the mRNA and they break down quickly at higher temperatures. Maybe eventually something else will be discovered that doesn't need those temps.

Even between the two, the temps are different. One is "wild crazy super cold" and the other is only "super cold". That's not just luck. For the "warmer" one, the company had already been working on the problem with more focus. With more work, they may be able to get warmer.

A pet peeve is all the talk about "it only took a year" for these vaccines. While it's true that targeting the specific protein and creating the mRNA to implement that only took a year, the entire mRNA delivery mechanism and the concept of using it was under development much longer. It's still amazing, but we shouldn't trivialize all the earlier work.

Which all just means, there's hope that continued work on mRNA vaccines may find a way to implement them without the super cold requirement. Maybe they'll get it to just plain "cold" next.

 

[DisneyCane]

I think a large population of people do that, mask or no mask. It seems to have been that way for a long time. It's some strange human phenomenon I think (disclaimer: I'm NO psychologist). Even driving down a not-so-crowded highway you'll see cars bunched up side by side, bumper to bumper. I'm definitely not in that group of people. Give me distance folks!

There was a technician that I worked with on occasion many years ago. When he would talk to you he would keep moving closer no matter how many small steps back you took. There were times where I literally ended up backed against a wall and he still didn't get the hint.

 

[Mr Mindcrime]

A pet peeve is all the talk about "it only took a year" for these vaccines. While it's true that targeting the specific protein and creating the mRNA to implement that only took a year, the entire mRNA delivery mechanism and the concept of using it was under development much longer. It's still amazing, but we shouldn't trivialize all the earlier work.

In fairness, I don't think most people have a clue about what it takes and took to get to this point. Most people just know that in March 2020 our world turned upside down and now only 10 months later we have a solution. I'd imagine that a research scientist would not necessarily understand the details and time involved other disciplines...say Corporate Finance or Property Development.... but that is understandable.

To your point, I get the frustration and I'm sure these vaccines are the result of years of research, but most people don't want to care about the details, just the end result. That said, it's very impressive what has been accomplished to get us this much closer to a solution.

 

[Kevin_W]

There was a technician that I worked with on occasion many years ago. When he would talk to you he would keep moving closer no matter how many small steps back you took. There were times where I literally ended up backed against a wall and he still didn't get the hint.

I've had that experience too. I don't know if it was cultural norms, but we had a French woman at work who would stand within 12" when talking to you. It was very uncomfortable.

 

[Disney Experience]

There was a technician that I worked with on occasion many years ago. When he would talk to you he would keep moving closer no matter how many small steps back you took. There were times where I literally ended up backed against a wall and he still didn't get the hint.

On the other hand engineers and scientists sometimes get deep in thought while walking on autopilot to a lab.

For fun in narrow long hallways I used to very slowly decelerate. The scientist or engineer behind me would unconsciously adjust to the slower speed maintaining the personal distancing. It was not until we were at a crawl did they get out mental autopilot and notice. I would turn around and grin and discuss what happen Some would try to return the favor . But once you know of the “trick” you quickly go out of autopilot, so it only works once per person.

Requires long narrow hallway, almost no other people in hallway and people/target deep in thought, not always an easy combination to find. Last time I did it was decades ago. It just fun to see people maintain social distancing without realizing it.

 

[bdearl41]

Fun question

How will you all feel about crowding up for parades/fireworks when this is all over? I'm talking pre-pandemic style.



Personally, I think I will find my own little hidden space that's not as crowded.

I actually miss crowds. But I’m also a 100 on the extrovert scale. Looking forward to getting our lives back.

 

[danlb_2000]

In fairness, I don't think most people have a clue about what it takes and took to get to this point. Most people just know that in March 2020 our world turned upside down and now only 10 months later we have a solution. I'd imagine that a research scientist would not necessarily understand the details and time involved other disciplines...say Corporate Finance or Property Development.... but that is understandable.

To your point, I get the frustration and I'm sure these vaccines are the result of years of research, but most people don't want to care about the details, just the end result. That said, it's very impressive what has been accomplished to get us this much closer to a solution.

I agree with what you are saying, but the problem is there are people who are warry of these vaccines because they only took 10 months to develop. It is important for these people to understand the years of research that led up to this. Even though these are the first mRNA vaccines, there have been human trials of other mRNA vaccines as far back as 2011.

 

[jlhwdw]

I just want pre-pandemic Disney back again. I miss when the parks were open until midnight or 1 am.

So you want 1990s Disney back?

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

So you want 1990s Disney back?

Pretty much ya. Also Castle Cake

 

[Disney Experience]

I actually miss crowds. But I’m also a 100 on the extrovert scale. Looking forward to getting our lives back.

Years ago I took three teenage nieces to the Magic Kingdom on New Years Eve.

Place was packed like sardines. We held hands and threaded our way through the crowd. We watched the fireworks all around us. Crazy crowds , zero social distancing, but lots of fun.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

So you want 1990s Disney back?

2000’s - I want Wishes and reflections of earth for sure. but before 2008 when pleasure island closed.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Did anyone see that press conference this morning?? It was great. Good news or bad news, its reassuring to have people educating the American public about what's really going on.

 

[Polkadotdress]

Very interesting observations. I've lived all over the country as well and yes, some places are worse than others (don't get me started on the speeding and lane changing of Atlanta drivers...). And you are right about the elevator behavior. Maybe someone on this forum with a psychology background can enlighten us.

It’s because...

In a queue, you subconsciously are “protecting your space”, and trying to make sure no one cuts in front of you. Therefore, you will close up the gap between others.

Whereas in an elevator, you are trapped in a confined space, and not worried about protecting your space (like in a queue.) Therefore, you spread out as soon as possible.

Also, the person standing next to you in elevator are garlic for lunch, or is a smoker.