Specific to WDW, I agree. Other than fireworks and outdoor shows, nothing at WDW is really "closed" at this point. In the broader context, I consider seriously scaled back allowing gyms, indoor dining and bars to be open in all jurisdictions, things like that.
But I have 6 toes left and I really don't want to be Joe Six Toe, just a couple more we have a long way to go.
I think in most places gyms and indoor dining will reopen once this wave dies down. At some point this summer they were open just about everywhere. Even NJ had indoor dining going for a little while. NYC may be the exception as they never really got off the ground before the second wave. Bars are tough but probably tied somewhat to indoor dining. In PA this summer bars reopened but with capacity restrictions and limitations on standing room and bar seating. That was without a vaccine at all and just natural reduction in cases. I could see those things back by the early Spring assuming cases drop off. The natural change of season combined with ending of the second wave combined with vaccinations increasing over time should lead to much better stats which will lead to a reduction in mitigation needed. I just hope enough people get vaccinated quickly enough before a 3rd wave takes hold. It would be great to never have another real wave, I’ll take a slow and steady decline, just not too slow.
This is why we need adults in the room.
And without the discounts. What are you doing?I at dinner at 4:30PM yesterday. I guess I'm a senior before my time.
That won't happen if the people making the decisions act to scale back restrictions in a reasonable time frame. People aren't going to continue with restrictions for 18 months (or even 6 months) after the vaccine is widely available unless someone is able to make a very good case for it, and even then I just don't see it happening.
What is the positivity rate in Illinois?
I think you and I are saying the same thing. 18 months was in reference to last February, so sometime this summer would be 18 months from that point.
First I will say all those restaurants should be fined. As far as the restrictions go it won't last 18 months, I think if the majority of people are vaccinated by fall, then by Christmas restrictions will start dropping.
I like your optimism in regards to the vaccine roll out but so disagree on international travel returning that quickly. It's going to be closer to 2023 before major travel returns. By the end of the year things will be back to normal in regards to restrictions but the economy is a long ways away from returning especially tourism.
Yesterday, the seven-day positivity rate was 7.3%.
There isn't enough personnel to investigate and handle fines on that scale. The state can't fine someone unless it goes through the necessary process - they can't just go by a picture on a phone or someone's report. (I'm talking about the Chicago area and surrounding suburbs; there are a lot of restaurants.)
I hope we get to that point. There are around 90,000 pharmacies in the US. If every pharmacy gave 11 vaccines a day on average that would be 1M vaccines total daily. If each pharmacy gave 5 vaccines an hour for 8 hours a day that’s nearly 4M vaccinations a day and that’s without mass vaccination sites or other healthcare center options. Once the doses are open to anyone who wants one we have the ability to ramp up very quickly.
The positivity rate in Ontario is around that and they have put us in a stay at home order.
No grocery stores and pharmacies are still open. We are only to go out for essential purposes.
