Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[SamusAranX]

Haven’t you heard? “Disney is a business”

Of course so was Enron, and we see what happened to them when they put profits first but what do I know... *sips tea*

Well the optics are so bad; restoring executive cuts, and then yesterday they announced a *staggering* amount of new shows and movies; i get it, they need to make those to make money. But it doesn't look good, especially when The Mandalorian costs an average of *15 million per episode*; you post pone just one of the shows with a similar budget (MCU, Star Wars, etc.) that's enough to at least help alot of these laid off employees for a few more months.

And for the buttholes who were railing in the employment thread that Disney jobs aren't good jobs or they chose a crappy job with no advancement, from the article:

A good Disney server at a popular restaurant could earn $50,000-$75,000 a year

That's more then I made in a year last year and I was in software sales!

 

[lazyboy97o]

Well the optics are so bad; restoring executive cuts, and then yesterday they announced a *staggering* amount of new shows and movies; i get it, they need to make those to make money. But it doesn't look good, especially when The Mandalorian costs an average of *15 million per episode*; you post pone just one of the shows with a similar budget (MCU, Star Wars, etc.) that's enough to at least help alot of these laid off employees for a few more months.

We wouldn’t like it if there were cuts to the parks to prop up poor performance at the Studio. Those shows cost so much because they’re paying large crews of people who, while used to the semi-temporary nature of their work, would not be working if the studio were subsidizing the parks.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

We wouldn’t like it if there were cuts to the parks to prop up poor performance at the Studio. Those shows cost so much because they’re paying large crews of people who, while used to the semi-temporary nature of their work, would not be working if the studio were subsidizing the parks.

So the studio crew should have jobs but not the park employees? Is that what you’re saying?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

A good read on what happened to one place that had wide open spaces with no masks needed, they thought. Most of this could have been helped. Still we argue in some circles about masks. Science is behind it. I say that last sentence before the “ magic mask” people start to comment.

A small town dragged its feet on COVID-19 mask mandates, and residents pay the price

In communities where mask-wearing has become a political inflection point, the toll of the virus has surpassed the dark spring in America's cities.

www.usatoday.com

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Okay back to the point of this forum.

Hospitals are full Nationwide
Daily deaths are at an unbelievable high
Spread is like a wildfire with gasoline being added to it.

Does disney world close????

 

[lazyboy97o]

So the studio crew should have jobs but not the park employees? Is that what you’re saying?

No, just that robbing Peter to pay Paul isn’t really a solution. Someone is still without a job.

 

[SamusAranX]

No, just that robbing Peter to pay Paul isn’t really a solution. Someone is still without a job.

Not necessarily; much of that 15 million per episode I quoted I am sure is spent on ancillary products, sets, computer effects, etc; and with all of Hollywood still active and churning out high budget productions, backstage crews I am sure can still find employment.

 

[SamusAranX]

Okay back to the point of this forum.

Hospitals are full Nationwide
Daily deaths are at an unbelievable high
Spread is like a wildfire with gasoline being added to it.

Does disney world close????

Doubtful. Even states doing shutdowns again aren't going as deep as last time; for example, PA and CA allowing retail at limited capacity; in April/May all non-essential retail was shut down completely. Disney World closing again would relight the fire on Orlando's smoldering economy pile of ruin.

 

[GoofGoof]

Well the optics are so bad; restoring executive cuts, and then yesterday they announced a *staggering* amount of new shows and movies; i get it, they need to make those to make money. But it doesn't look good, especially when The Mandalorian costs an average of *15 million per episode*; you post pone just one of the shows with a similar budget (MCU, Star Wars, etc.) that's enough to at least help alot of these laid off employees for a few more months.

And for the buttholes who were railing in the employment thread that Disney jobs aren't good jobs or they chose a crappy job with no advancement, from the article:

A good Disney server at a popular restaurant could earn $50,000-$75,000 a year

That's more then I made in a year last year and I was in software sales!

The optics are bad on executive compensation. On the Mandalorian costs I would disagree. If anything the success of Disney+ is holding the company together and keeping the stock price up which helps everyone who works for Disney in every division.

It’s heartbreaking to see stories of people who lost their jobs and still haven’t gotten things turned around, but I’m not sure how practical it would have been to continue paying every CM indefinitely. Are most still furloughed or are they laid off at this point? Ultimately the government needs to do better with unemployment and assistance, especially for industries heavily hit. They also need more targeted stimulus once the vaccines are widely available to jump start those industries impacted the most. A $1,200 check is nice, but if I turn around and buy a 60 inch TV from Amazon with the money it’s not helping the businesses that need it the most. I would support more targeted stimulus in the future like tax credits for flying, travel and dining out as opposed to just writing blank checks. I’m talking about a future stimulus not the aid package they are looking to pass today. That’s more about getting money to people today so they can eat and pay bills. Once the crisis passes we will likely need an additional economic stimulus. They should attempt to make that more targeted to the extent possible.

 

[jlhwdw]

Okay back to the point of this forum.

Hospitals are full Nationwide
Daily deaths are at an unbelievable high
Spread is like a wildfire with gasoline being added to it.

Does disney world close????

No. Because Walt Disney World being open is not the problem.

 

[LittleBuford]

No. Because Walt Disney World being open is not the problem.

It’s certainly part of it.

 

[SamusAranX]

The optics are bad on executive compensation. On the Mandalorian costs I would disagree. If anything the success of Disney+ is holding the company together and keeping the stock price up which helps everyone who works for Disney in every division.

It’s heartbreaking to see stories of people who lost their jobs and still haven’t gotten things turned around, but I’m not sure how practical it would have been to continue paying every CM indefinitely. Are most still furloughed or are they laid off at this point? Ultimately the government needs to do better with unemployment and assistance, especially for industries heavily hit. They also need more targeted stimulus once the vaccines are widely available to jump start those industries impacted the most. A $1,200 check is nice, but if I turn around and buy a 60 inch TV from Amazon with the money it’s not helping the businesses that need it the most. I would support more targeted stimulus in the future like tax credits for flying, travel and dining out as opposed to just writing blank checks. I’m talking about a future stimulus not the aid package they are looking to pass today. That’s more about getting money to people today so they can eat and pay bills. Once the crisis passes we will likely need an additional economic stimulus. They should attempt to make that more targeted to the extent possible.

I was just using TMD as an example of how much comparatively Disney is pouring into 50 plus new productions announced yesterday. For the shows, the per episode cost may not be the exact same, but that just shows how postponing or leaving one of those productions in development, just *one* could help these employees.

Disney's cash flow without the parks isn't great, but they will make it. The people who buy shares in Disney will make it (the 1 percent has gotten even richer during this pandemic). These 28000 employees may not. Central Florida is flirting with what will be probably a worse recession then what the nation is bracing for post-COVID

 

[SamusAranX]

It’s certainly part of it.

Please provide the studies proving it. Not circumstantial evidence or speculation as to the likes of "there has to be, it just hasn't been proven yet".

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Doubtful. Even states doing shutdowns again aren't going as deep as last time; for example, PA and CA allowing retail at limited capacity; in

For now. Rumors around town is that once icus are filled, non essential closes again.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Please provide the studies proving it. Not circumstantial evidence or speculation as to the likes of "there has to be, it just hasn't been proven yet".

it encourages travel from different parts of the country.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

No. Because Walt Disney World being open is not the problem.

Please provide the studies proving it. Not circumstantial evidence or speculation as to the likes of "there has to be, it just hasn't been proven yet".

There is also no evidence that it isn't a problem.

 

[LittleBuford]

Please provide the studies proving it. Not circumstantial evidence or speculation as to the likes of "there has to be, it just hasn't been proven yet".

Any amount of unnecessary gathering and/or travelling is a bad idea in the context of a pandemic. All the health experts are telling us this. I can’t for the life of me understand why people’s love of Disney is blinding them to something so self-evident.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Please provide the studies proving it. Not circumstantial evidence or speculation as to the likes of "there has to be, it just hasn't been proven yet".

You can’t prove it either way. But encouraging travel is encouraging spread since we know that travel contributes to spread.

 

[SamusAranX]

For now. Rumors around town is that once icus are filled, non essential closes again.

Which will be a shame for the retail jobs hanging on right now, because it won't be [retail] that causes more surging. It will be two words that rhyme with "isthmus" and "blathering"

 

[SamusAranX]

You can’t prove it either way. But encouraging travel is encouraging spread since we know that travel contributes to spread.

Not necessarily. numerous studies have show how low transmission is on airplanes.