SamusAranX
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You can’t prove it either way. But encouraging travel is encouraging spread since we know that travel contributes to spread.
Not necessarily. numerous studies have show how low transmission is on airplanes.
You can’t prove it either way. But encouraging travel is encouraging spread since we know that travel contributes to spread.
These studies were conducted under the conditions of not taking your mask off the entire flight and keeping your face forward.Not necessarily. numerous studies have show how low transmission is on airplanes.
right, but closing non essential will also prevent spread in big box stores.Which will be a shame for the retail jobs hanging on right now, because it won't be [retail] that causes more surging. It will be two words that rhyme with "isthmus" and "blathering"
I was just using TMD as an example of how much comparatively Disney is pouring into 50 plus new productions announced yesterday. For the shows, the per episode cost may not be the exact same, but that just shows how postponing or leaving one of those productions in development, just *one* could help these employees.
Disney's cash flow without the parks isn't great, but they will make it. The people who buy shares in Disney will make it (the 1 percent has gotten even richer during this pandemic). These 28000 employees may not. Central Florida is flirting with what will be probably a worse recession then what the nation is bracing for post-COVID
Any amount of unnecessary gathering and/or travelling is a bad idea in the context of a pandemic. All the health experts are telling us this. I can’t for the life of me understand why people’s love of Disney is blinding them to something so self-evident.
It’s the departing airport, the arrival airport.. it’s the transportation to the hotel.. it’s the thousands of people in the parks, restaurants and merch shops.. it’s the bus back to departing airport, then the arrival airport. You can say show me where a case can be linked to Disney, well that is tough to do. But to think with the virus spreading like wildfire, that all this unnecessary travel is ok I think you would be wrong. If almost one in 10 or 15 or 20.. for that matter let’s say one in a hundred has the virus, it’s there. Can’t be linked maybe, but it’s all around.Please provide the studies proving it. Not circumstantial evidence or speculation as to the likes of "there has to be, it just hasn't been proven yet".
Well so far it’s Florida vs. California, France, and Hong Kong.It is it the job of the prosecution (i.e. the one making the accusation or assertion) that Disney is unsafe and too risky to provide proof. not on the defense
I’ve not framed it in terms of whether they should be “allowed” to operate. This is Florida we’re talking about—anything goes.Because if other businesses can operate safely and minimize risks enough, then they should be allowed to stay open. This has never been about eliminating risk completely; it's been about finding ways to keep economically what we can going, while minimizing risk to the smallest degree possible. For some businesses, or business operations, such as indoor dining, that isn't possible. But in lieu of a study showing massive risk and sizable levels of transmission at DW, they should be allowed to remain open.
It is it the job of the prosecution (i.e. the one making the accusation or assertion) that Disney is unsafe and too risky to provide proof. not on the defense
and looks like we were rightWell so far it’s Florida vs. California, France, and Hong Kong.
Name an airline that isn't kicking people off for violating mask rulesThese studies were conducted under the conditions of not taking your mask off the entire flight and keeping your face forward.
you get to take it off to eat and drink on the plane.Name an airline that isn't kicking people off for violating mask rules
For masks to be effective, people need to wear them and social distance when they are in close proximity to others for a significant length of time, especially indoors. I don't think this is being done. My state is one of the most restrictive, and has been from the beginning, yet we've seen two serious spikes. They weren't caused by lack of mask mandates - we've had them since May 1 with excellent compliance. My guess is that people are wearing them religiously under circumstances where the virus is less likely to be spread, and ignoring them where mask use can't be monitored.A good read on what happened to one place that had wide open spaces with no masks needed, they thought. Most of this could have been helped. Still we argue in some circles about masks. Science is behind it. I say that last sentence before the “ magic mask” people start to comment.
A small town dragged its feet on COVID-19 mask mandates, and residents pay the price
In communities where mask-wearing has become a political inflection point, the toll of the virus has surpassed the dark spring in America's cities.www.usatoday.com
Well so far it’s Florida vs. California, France, and Hong Kong.
I’ve not framed it in terms of whether they should be “allowed” to operate. This is Florida we’re talking about—anything goes.
I’m disappointed in Disney itself for remaining open.
There is increased risk in public places. There is increased risk in highly populated public places. You do the math.Do you have studies or documentation showing increased risks and levels of transmission at DLP and DL Hong Kong?
Which is why we need another stimulus.But if they close again...god help central florida.
you get to take it off to eat and drink on the plane.
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