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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Magic Feather

Magic Feather

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EricsBiscuit said:
What it shows is Disney has no vision. In 2/3 years EC was under construction economy was in free fall. They opened Space Mountain during an oil crisis. Big Thunder opened in a recession year. Uni on the other hand is showing foresight and projecting confidence by going forward with Velocicoaster. EU is not comparable because it wasn’t far enough along. Disney can and should finish Tron ASAP. How do they expect anyone to show up if they don’t try to draw them back?
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Honestly, it shows that they have vision. While it was the result of a backlog caused by MM+, the 2019-2022 schedule was dense and aggressive. There was already set to be a comparative lull after. Now that tourism has significantly slowed, Disney is pacing out their additions to be more spaced out as tourism builds. Instead of having something new every 3-6 months, now you get something new every 6-12 months. Plus, hopefully wit this batch of additions spaced out, we won't see the originally planned lull.
 
Seanual757

Seanual757

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EricsBiscuit said:
What it shows is Disney has no vision. In 2/3 years EC was under construction economy was in free fall. They opened Space Mountain during an oil crisis. Big Thunder opened in a recession year. Uni on the other hand is showing foresight and projecting confidence by going forward with Velocicoaster. EU is not comparable because it wasn’t far enough along. Disney can and should finish Tron ASAP. How do they expect anyone to show up if they don’t try to draw them back?
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Disney does but the share holders rule corporate America and the bottom line is share holders (big ones) care about 1 thing and 1 thing only that is Money. Right now Disney is hurting for money and in order to keep profits going in these tough times they will preserve any cash flow that they can.

Moving forward with the SW hotel IMHO was dumb I would have delayed that project and continued with Tron but Disney feels they an make much more trying to fill that small hotel more then they can with a new ride.

They are filling the parks without Tron so they figure build the hotel hold off on Tron and when they can fully open towards the fall\winter 2021 they can move forward and the guests will come.

Universal yes they have 1 coaster that is moving forward but EU is on hold and no clue when it will move forward it could be 2-3 years before they decide to start construction.
 
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doctornick

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marni1971 said:
Oh it is. And it was.

(Past tense)
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Yeah, that's the thing. It seems that both Uni and WDW are operating in a very similar fashion. It seems Uni might build Nintendo within the existing parks in the shorter term (as opposed to in EU) in order to fulfill their contract and bring it to Florida, but otherwise they are the ones who are shutting things down more than WDW due to the pandemic. Every major thing announced for WDW is still being built, even though some are being drawn out. (Granted, small stuff like Mary Poppins and the festival building seem to be cancelled, though the former probably wasn't due to COVID.)
 
EricsBiscuit

EricsBiscuit

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Magic Feather said:
Honestly, it shows that they have vision. While it was the result of a backlog caused by MM+, the 2019-2022 schedule was dense and aggressive. There was already set to be a comparative lull after. Now that tourism has significantly slowed, Disney is pacing out their additions to be more spaced out as tourism builds. Instead of having something new every 3-6 months, now you get something new every 6-12 months. Plus, hopefully wit this batch of additions spaced out, we won't see the originally planned lull.
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Au contraire (have to learn my French to enjoy Rat), they should open the expansions or at least continue construction now so when tourism does pick up, they are ready.
 
Jones14

Jones14

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EricsBiscuit said:
Au contraire (have to learn my French to enjoy Rat), they should open the expansions or at least continue construction now so when tourism does pick up, they are ready.
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But that’s not what they want. They don’t want people to make one trip in a year from now to see everything.

What they want is for them to come next year, ride Rat, see that Guardians is coming soon, and then book another trip for the next year. Then, they’ll see Tron is almost done, and book another one, or at least Disney hopes they will.

I understand your sentiment, but theme parks rely on staggered openings of new attractions to continually pull people back. It’s the business model, and has been for ages.
 
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doctornick

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Jones14 said:
But that’s not what they want. They don’t want people to make one trip in a year from now to see everything.

What they want is for them to come next year, ride Rat, see that Guardians is coming soon, and then book another trip for the next year. Then, they’ll see Tron is almost done, and book another one, or at least Disney hopes they will.

I understand your sentiment, but theme parks rely on staggered openings of new attractions to continually pull people back. It’s the business model, and has been for ages.
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Right. And to build in that, MMRR and even RotR opened not that long before the shutdown and COVID limitations. There’s a ton of potential guests who still haven’t even experienced those yet.
 
Seanual757

Seanual757

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doctornick said:
Yeah, that's the thing. It seems that both Uni and WDW are operating in a very similar fashion. It seems Uni might build Nintendo within the existing parks in the shorter term (as opposed to in EU) in order to fulfill their contract and bring it to Florida, but otherwise they are the ones who are shutting things down more than WDW due to the pandemic. Every major thing announced for WDW is still being built, even though some are being drawn out. (Granted, small stuff like Mary Poppins and the festival building seem to be cancelled, though the former probably wasn't due to COVID.)
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The only good news is that site works continues at EU and concrete is being poured on the site.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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ChewbaccaYourMum said:
Hell, because of the boarding groups there's even people who've been to Hollywood Studios since RotR opening and STILL haven't been on the ride LOL!
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I have been back to the park 3 times since ROTR opening and have not been able to get on the ride... The boarding groups sell out way too fast... I imagine it will be years before this is actually accessible to the average guest... The park still needs more attractions...
 
larryz

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Bocabear said:
I have been back to the park 3 times since ROTR opening and have not been able to get on the ride... The boarding groups sell out way too fast... I imagine it will be years before this is actually accessible to the average guest... The park still needs more attractions...
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And with the Halcyon Project still on the horizon, there's no incentive for WDW to fix the issue... in fact, just the opposite.
 
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doctornick

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Bocabear said:
I have been back to the park 3 times since ROTR opening and have not been able to get on the ride... The boarding groups sell out way too fast... I imagine it will be years before this is actually accessible to the average guest... The park still needs more attractions...
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I don't know what would really make it accessible. If DHS in theory had a dozen other new rides to "spread out crowds" it would probably also increase the capacity of the park, increase the number of guests in the park and still have demand outstripping supply for the ride.

Obviously, the biggest thing for RotR is for it to become as reliable as possible, hopefully that will occur with ongoing running of the ride. I think beyond that, the biggest thing to decrease demand might be if another big attention getting ride opened elsewhere on property (preferably not in DHS so it doesn't people to that park specifically) that would draw people away. But I don't see that in the horizon, not unless Cosmic Rewind is a massive hit (I don't see Rat or Tron filling such a role).

I do wonder how much of the demand usage is from local/repeat guests who have already ridden RotR. If that's a big driver, then perhaps demand will die down somewhat once that group has had their "fill" and be less apt to visit DHS frequently to ride it?
 
ChewbaccaYourMum

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Bocabear said:
I have been back to the park 3 times since ROTR opening and have not been able to get on the ride... The boarding groups sell out way too fast... I imagine it will be years before this is actually accessible to the average guest... The park still needs more attractions...
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I've been there 3 times since it opened too and I've been lucky to get one every time. Don't ask me how I'm getting so lucky because I have no idea lol... But keep trying you'll get it eventually. And I agree with you. It's funny how two whole lands and a new ride have opened and the park still feels like it has barely anything to do.. Maybe they need to stop replacing things and use that "blessing of size" someone once said to EXPAND.
 
larryz

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
po1998 said:
I don’t always stay up to date on all forum news...what is the Halcyon Project?
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That's the Ultra-High-End Premium star cruiser experience they're working on just outside Galaxy's Edge...

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