Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[JoeCamel]

A series of welcome news! Plus immediately after complaining Alberta realized it wasn’t the US and is finally progressing with a soft lockdown.

Cherry on top is I’ve learned we’ve secured 11 full sets of vaccines per citizen in Canada (which is way beyond the US)... which makes us the greedy buyers of the world I suppose, but hopefully we’ll help distribute excess to places in need.

Hey buddy , can you spare a jab or two?? Pretty please?

 

[dolbyman]

Cherry on top is I’ve learned we’ve secured 11 full sets of vaccines per citizen in Canada (which is way beyond the US)... which makes us the greedy buyers of the world I suppose, but hopefully we’ll help distribute excess to places in need.

Hope they have a set for me as well (PR of 11 years), we will see if we get those 11 doses in any reasonable timeframe or late next year from the bargain bin

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That is not what I said. I said Florida has been better than NY and NJ. Please go back a few posts and and read what I said about Florida's handling of the unemployment system.

If you remove timeline and the sequence of events from your assessment - I agree. But that’s a cherry pick.

I live in nj...which means it’s like pulling teeth to get me to give ANY credit to New York and New Jersey...

But they’re fighters...and they had to deal with this completely out of nowhere...first...with a population density that always amplifies any situation. They stayed home...they voluntarily shut their own economies down...and have gotten backstabbed/stiffed so far. They stayed up all night and did the yoeman’s medical work...all are benefiting now.

There are different parts of this country...more urban/ more rural...more wealthy and less...more tech based and more hands on.

All are important. None should be ridiculed. None. That door needs to swing both ways. It’s gotten out of hand. Elevating the less populated as some kind of badge of honor is anti-logic.

Florida is benefitting from others experience. It would be nice if people stopped sitting on their brains and acknowledged it occasionally.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A series of welcome news! Plus immediately after complaining Alberta realized it wasn’t the US and is finally progressing with a soft lockdown.

Cherry on top is I’ve learned we’ve secured 11 full sets of vaccines per citizen in Canada (which is way beyond the US)... which makes us the greedy buyers of the world I suppose, but hopefully we’ll help distribute excess to places in need.

So much better managed it’s a point of envy...

...and they’re gonna play hockey too!!! (I need it)

 

[Disney Experience]

PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE (BNT162, PF-07302048) VACCINES AND RELATED BIOLOGICAL PRODUCTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE BRIEFING DOCUMENT MEETING DATE: 10 December 2020

https://www.fda.gov/media/144246/download

 

[Disney Analyst]

A series of welcome news! Plus immediately after complaining Alberta realized it wasn’t the US and is finally progressing with a soft lockdown.

Cherry on top is I’ve learned we’ve secured 11 full sets of vaccines per citizen in Canada (which is way beyond the US)... which makes us the greedy buyers of the world I suppose, but hopefully we’ll help distribute excess to places in need.

I have to imagine we will distribute, that's sort of Canada's mission. I hope so...

 

[Lilofan]

I wonder what the cost will be. The NY/NJ airports namely Newark International is offering rapid testing for Covid at $200 per person before one boards their flight.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I wonder what the cost will be. The NY/NJ airports namely Newark International is offering rapid testing for Covid at $200 per person before one boards their flight.

I’m not worried about having it BEFORE I get on a airplane packed with strangers!

 

[Disney Analyst]

Interesting:

Florida’s justification for raiding COVID data whistleblower Rebekah Jones is looking a little shaky

The username, password, and email address were all freely accessible on the web

www.theverge.com

 

[Disney Experience]

From the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine VRBPAC Briefing Document Page 15 and 16 concerning those in the study(Which a few of the forum members are): Gives expected time frame for full approval.

We will appeal to participants to remain in the ongoing Phase 3 study as originally randomized for as long as possible, ideally until a COVID-19 vaccine has full regulatory approval following the accumulation of 6 months of safety follow-up data after Dose 2. The study team responsible for study conduct would remain blinded to individual participant randomization until this time.

 

[JoeCamel]

Interesting:

Florida’s justification for raiding COVID data whistleblower Rebekah Jones is looking a little shaky

The username, password, and email address were all freely accessible on the web

www.theverge.com

Questions yes but really does not shed more light on the "why".

 

[Parker in NYC]

But they’re fighters...and they had to deal with this completely of nowhere...first...with a population density that always amplifies any situation. They stayed home...they voluntarily shut their own economies down...and have gotten backstabbed/stiffed so far. They stayed up all night and did the yoeman’s medical work...all are benefiting now.

Cannot be said enough.

 

[danlb_2000]

From the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine VRBPAC Briefing Document Page 15 and 16 concerning those in the study(Which a few of the forum members are): Gives expected time frame for full approval.

Interesting. I can totally understand why they would want people to continue with the study, but if you have the option to get the vaccine, you may want to incase you are in the placebo group.

 

[DCBaker]

"Jenner Institute Director Adrian Hill, who oversees the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine research and development, said a vaccine would not be available in the United States until “the middle of next year” if regulators wait for the end of their vaccine trial.

“I would hope that the (Food and Drug Administration) would look at the data set on this vaccine, including all of the available data in January. To wait for the end of the trial would be the middle of next year,” Hill said in remarks released by NBC. “That’s too late to take the value of this vaccine, which is effective, available at large scale and easily deployed.”

Dr. Larry Corey, a top U.S. scientist overseeing COVID-19 vaccine trials, last week said the large U.S. AstraZeneca study may determine how effective the vaccine is, after perplexing results from other trials by the company and partner Oxford.

Moncef Slaoui, chief adviser for the U.S. Operation Warp Speed vaccine program, said last week that U.S. trial data and potentially a request for U.S. emergency use authorization by AstraZeneca could come in late January."

U.S. should not wait too long on AstraZeneca vaccine, Oxford's Hill says

Jenner Institute Director Adrian Hill, who oversees the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine research and development, said a vaccine would not be available in the United States until "the middle of next year" if regulators wait for the end of their vaccine trial.

www.reuters.com

 

[GoofGoof]

From the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine VRBPAC Briefing Document Page 15 and 16 concerning those in the study(Which a few of the forum members are): Gives expected time frame for full approval.

Interesting. I can totally understand why they would want people to continue with the study, but if you have the option to get the vaccine, you may want to incase you are in the placebo group.

This lines up with what I had read as well earlier. The 6 months of safety data seems to be the requirement for full approval. If they got to the 2 month mark needed for EUA in November that means by some time in March they would be at 6 months and ready for full approval. Seems to lineup with the projection that healthy adults in the general population should be able to get the vaccine in April with everyone going by June.

I think I’d want to get the vaccine sooner if I was in the trial and got the placebo but it’s only March or April so not too long to wait.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Interesting:

Florida’s justification for raiding COVID data whistleblower Rebekah Jones is looking a little shaky

The username, password, and email address were all freely accessible on the web

www.theverge.com

The judge is dirty...this is a political hit job.

Who would expect anything less from governor mini-dictator?

 

[Disney Experience]

This lines up with what I had read as well earlier. The 6 months of safety data seems to be the requirement for full approval. If they got to the 2 month mark needed for EUA in November that means by some time in March they would be at 6 months and ready for full approval. Seems to lineup with the projection that healthy adults in the general population should be able to get the vaccine in April with everyone going by June.

I think I’d want to get the vaccine sooner if I was in the trial and got the placebo but it’s only March or April so not too long to wait.

For myself, I had the mild symptoms (Fever, chills, body aches etc.) on the second shot so I have high confidence that I got the vaccine, But if proof of vaccination is required to participate in events or trips that could be a temptation to exit study( I would likely opt for the good of the many and not exit). Since if you exit and had the vaccine you are good, and if you exit and had the placebo, they will unmask and you will then know. They will also vaccinate you if you qualify. So the only reason to not exit is the good of the many over the good of the one.

 

[Polkadotdress]

Interesting. I can totally understand why they would want people to continue with the study, but if you have the option to get the vaccine, you may want to incase you are in the placebo group.

I read somewhere online that there is a possibility that all the vaccine study recipients will receive another shot, regardless of whether they got the placebo or actual vaccine. The shot would be given "blind", so that those with the vaccine would be given the placebo, and vice versa. This would vaccinate the original placebo-goers, and allow the study to continue in real time.

 

[GoofGoof]

I read somewhere online that there is a possibility that all the vaccine study recipients will receive another shot, regardless of whether they got the placebo or actual vaccine. The shot would be given "blind", so that those with the vaccine would be given the placebo, and vice versa. This would vaccinate the original placebo-goers, and allow the study to continue in real time.

Wouldn’t you lose the control group then? If you vaccinate the placebo group then there is nothing to compare the vaccine group to. I think after 6 months and millions of vaccinations they probably have enough efficacy data anyway. On the safety side they will continue to track any adverse reactions of the vaccine group for 2 years just in case. We will also have hundreds of millions of people vaccinated so plenty of data.

 

[Disney Experience]

Not sure if this survey has been posted today here. It looks like people who are not following the vaccine approval process are most likely to not get vaccinated.

Few Americans are very or extremely confident that the first available vaccines will have been properly tested for safety and effectiveness and will be distributed quickly, safely, and fairly. Those who are willing to be vaccinated and those who have been following news about the development and approval process have more confidence, as do college educated and older Americans.

Those who worry that they or someone in their household will get coronavirus, have heard or read about the development of the vaccines, and older Americans are more likely to say they will get a coronavirus vaccine once it becomes available. Black Americans are less likely than other racial and ethnic groups to plan to get inoculated.

AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. (December, 2020).“Many remain doubtful about getting COVID-19 vaccine.” [https://apnorc.org/projects/many-remain-doubtful-about-getting-covid-19-vaccine/]