On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[MerlinTheGoat]

There's a huge difference between being a tough businessman/woman (it's understandable you're going to butt heads with people occasionally) and just being needlessly hateful and cruel to literally everyone around you all 24/7. Then again, it's not surprising considering that over 20% of corporate executives are stated to be literal psychopaths (an estimate i'm inclined to think should be much higher when you count the ones who are better at keeping the behavior hidden). Positions of extreme power attract reprehensible people.

 

[UNCgolf]

Disney's corporate structure has always been a bit strange, even haphazard, compared to a lot of other companies.

They've often had the same person as both CEO and Chairman of the Board, which is not typical and is considered an absolute no-no by some. They've also had a President/COO at times, and at other times the CEO has either officially filled that position (Eisner and Iger were both President and CEO at the same time during their respective tenures) or is unofficially making the types of decisions normally delegated to a President or COO (Chapek seems to be in that position now).

Iger serving as board chair after stepping down as CEO isn't totally new for Disney, either. Donn Tatum served as chairman for several years after his time as the CEO.

 

[Nubs70]

One tip. Only use budget websites for research only. Never book through Expedia etc.
Booked a trip to Vienna this spring to visit daughter over spring break with Expedia. Covid killed it.

We waited until United cancelled then approached Expedia for direct refund not a flight credit. Expedia denied and we ended up at Chase. Success! Charge was reversed. Then 3 weeks ago Expedia charged our card for the flights again. So around we go again.

Finally got my $3000 back last week from Expedia and card cancelled.

 

[tirian]

Doing something I’ve never done before on the next “big original content” - actually writing drafts in a word processor.

Plus there are rumors and narratives I want to fully research and vet before I post. This thread really blew up on some interesting places on YouTube. The next “big original content” may do the same.

But the next thread is coming. Might be a while. Might be tomorrow. But it’s coming.

In the meantime, I’ll be here taking my licks as “the old guy who got it wrong.” When things go another way I will be drinking troll tears.

They mix well with Dole Whips, churros, and special-edition cupcakes.

 

[mkt]

I personally don’t know anyone who has been laid off, bur I do have friends who are merchandise managers at WDW that are furloughed indefinitely

That's just a nice way to say "laid off"

 

[mkt]

Finally got my $3000 back last week from Expedia and card cancelled.

Today is American Airlines's last day to reply to my card dispute. So far no news is good news - if they don't respond, I should win the dispute by default.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It’s gossip, folks. It’s gossip about an entertainment company. Be entertained and enjoy discussing the fandom, but don’t build your life on it.

YouTube and Patreon: Hold my beer...

 

[Animaniac93-98]

That’s the biggest point. I have no idea how to convince people that they need to care about other human beings

Caring about others is for suckers. Rational people only focus on economic theory.

In my new book I will explain how to...

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Caring about others is for suckers. Rational people only focus on economic theory.

In my new book I will explain how to...

Careful now. If you're alluding to who I think you are, you're veering dangerously close to the no-no zone.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Careful now. If you're alluding to who I think you are, you're veering dangerously close to the no-no zone.

I actually wasn't alluding to anyone in particular. There's a whole cottage industry of self-described experts who are wealthy, mostly through luck, lecturing others about how "easy" it is to be just like them.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Caring about others is for suckers. Rational people only focus on economic theory.

In my new book I will explain how to...

Ahhhh its been years my friend.... Good stuff.

 

[Brer Panther]

Soooooooooooooo, what I'm getting from this is that Iger's not going anywhere?

 

[Phil12]

The CEO of TWDC has a difficult job just trying to live up to the reputation of some of the past CEO's. In particular, Walt Disney himself.

Walt was always the front man for his movies, TV shows, Disneyland and Walt Disney World. We knew about these things because good ole Uncle Walt told us all about his plans on his TV shows. And the public loved him!

Of course, that was all pure public relations. Walt was not one bit as he appeared on TV. In reality he was a chain smoker, he drank to excess and he swore like a sailor. He was also a very brutal businessman. But after all, he was in show business. So he hired the best in the business to make him look good. And it worked perfectly because he came off looking great and was able to sell the public most anything. He was a great pitchman!

After Walt died, Roy Disney and the others after didn't have the on camera charisma to effectively sell the Disney product. That is until Eisner came along. Eisner was a rather ruthless guy (just like Walt) but he realized the valve (just like Walt) of being able to pitch the product to the fans. And Eisner did well on camera and used the TV shows to sell product in an effective manner.

Unfortunately, Iger left most of his personality with whomever replaced him as a weatherman. I'll give Bob credit in that he tried to sell the Disney product on camera. But the camera just doesn't like Bob. He comes off as a stiff dupe and a smarmy CEO. He comes off almost as creepy as the Dreamfinder. Iger is just not a guy the fans felt comfortable with nor someone they could trust.

And now we have Bob Chapek. Poor Bob comes across on camera like a wet dishrag. He just can't sell the product. Now let's hope that a brave someone in TWDC confronts Bob and tells him that his on camera personality sucks. Given the proper acting lessons and guidance, they can make him look good or even great!

They did it for Walt and I'm sure they can do it for Bob. I think the difference is that Walt was willing to put on his fake persona for the sake of building his personal fortune (i.e. greed). I'm not sure that Bob is motivated by greed as was Walt.

Here's an example of poor Bob trying to sell the Disney product:

 

[Jrb1979]

Lex Luthor hasn't been a great replacement. As much as everyone didn't like Eisner he was good at talking.

 

[Kram Sacul]

That’s the biggest point. I have no idea how to convince people that they need to care about other human beings

Don’t tell me what to do.

 

[MSC]

My only response to the whole ridiculous diatribe:

 

[gwhb75]

Disney's corporate structure has always been a bit strange, even haphazard, compared to a lot of other companies.

They've often had the same person as both CEO and Chairman of the Board, which is not typical and is considered an absolute no-no by some. They've also had a President/COO at times, and at other times the CEO has either officially filled that position (Eisner and Iger were both President and CEO at the same time during their respective tenures) or is unofficially making the types of decisions normally delegated to a President or COO (Chapek seems to be in that position now).

Iger serving as board chair after stepping down as CEO isn't totally new for Disney, either. Donn Tatum served as chairman for several years after his time as the CEO.

The big difference is the word "executive" in front of the chairman title. This tends to indicate an uncertainty with the new CEO. It means the chairman is actively involved in the day to day running of the company (which we've seen with Bob Iger), as opposed to just the chariman title who only leads the board.. In a previous company I worked for an executive was promoted to CEO, and the former CEO became executive chairman. A few years later the new CEO left partially (rumored) because the "executive" wasn't going to be dropped from the chairman's title (i.e. the executive chair was still making decisions that the CEO didn't think needed to be made by him), and the board wanted to go in a different direction with a new CEO. Once an outside CEO was brought in, the Executive title was dropped.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Don’t tell me what to do.

You mean to go home and get your shinebox?

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

So he hired the best in the business to make him look good.

I mean, that's what everyone should do if they're in that kind of position. Hire the very best. Pay them well. Remove the roadblocks that prevent them from doing their job well. Get out of the way. Everyone is happy.

 

[brb1006]

The CEO of TWDC has a difficult job just trying to live up to the reputation of some of the past CEO's. In particular, Walt Disney himself.

Walt was always the front man for his movies, TV shows, Disneyland and Walt Disney World. We knew about these things because good ole Uncle Walt told us all about his plans on his TV shows. And the public loved him!

Of course, that was all pure public relations. Walt was not one bit as he appeared on TV. In reality he was a chain smoker, he drank to excess and he swore like a sailor. He was also a very brutal businessman. But after all, he was in show business. So he hired the best in the business to make him look good. And it worked perfectly because he came off looking great and was able to sell the public most anything. He was a great pitchman!

After Walt died, Roy Disney and the others after didn't have the on camera charisma to effectively sell the Disney product. That is until Eisner came along. Eisner was a rather ruthless guy (just like Walt) but he realized the valve (just like Walt) of being able to pitch the product to the fans. And Eisner did well on camera and used the TV shows to sell product in an effective manner.

Unfortunately, Iger left most of his personality with whomever replaced him as a weatherman. I'll give Bob credit in that he tried to sell the Disney product on camera. But the camera just doesn't like Bob. He comes off as a stiff dupe and a smarmy CEO. He comes off almost as creepy as the Dreamfinder. Iger is just not a guy the fans felt comfortable with nor someone they could trust.

And now we have Bob Chapek. Poor Bob comes across on camera like a wet dishrag. He just can't sell the product. Now let's hope that a brave someone in TWDC confronts Bob and tells him that his on camera personality sucks. Given the proper acting lessons and guidance, they can make him look good or even great!

They did it for Walt and I'm sure they can do it for Bob. I think the difference is that Walt was willing to put on his fake persona for the sake of building his personal fortune (i.e. greed). I'm not sure that Bob is motivated by greed as was Walt.

Here's an example of poor Bob trying to sell the Disney product:

Also how is Dreamfinder creepy?