_caleb
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All voices don’t hold equal standing for long around here. For those of us who have been watching for a while, patterns and tendencies become clear.
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On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace
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Horizons '83
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Well said.Welcome, to the show, Baby
I get that a lot. Both here and in my last lives...
It’s a lot about “tone”. There really is no tone on chatboards...or text messages. So the reader tends to “assign one” and is often wrong. The truth of non-malice bares out over time.
I agree with people a lot more than they realize...here as well. Mr. Penguin and I vehemently disagreed on one single premise (for me - about 4,000 posts worth)...but it turns out I don’t disagree with him much at all otherwise. It was difference of perspective on one thing.
I tend to be like a 4th line nhl player. Everyone hates the sandpaper guy at first...but then you realize there’a value in the contribution.
I’ve never ignored anyone...how do we learn if we do that?
See...I told you you’d come around? It worked already
Sirwalterraleigh
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I had to add the second line so not to appear arrogant. I hope it worked.
ElvisMickey
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What’s funny is that I tried to get an AP reservation this morning for EPCOT today because I took a last minute long weekend from work. Nothing available. Except for day and resort guests. Seriously? That park is empty as empty can be during the week. So it may not seem like a lot, but Disney is losing at least $50 tonight from me not having the opportunity to go walk around, have a drink and some dinner.
Notes from Neverland
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Don't even joke about such a thing! (The going away part)
Here's more data: 66,000 businesses have closed:
see: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/4...losed-for-good-during-the-pandemic-2020-06-25
and: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/business/small-businesses-coronavirus.html
Unless you prefer the Washington Post which calls out 100k businesses: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...icas-economy-pandemic-could-end-that-forever/
Should we ignore Neiman Marcus, True Religion, J Crew, Gold's Gym, Pier 1, Hertz, GNC, Lucky Brands, Cirque du Soleil, Brooks Brothers, Ascena, etc. since they've "only" declared bankruptcy?
see: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/co...-bankruptcy-coronavirus-pandemic-hit-n1207866
and: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/25/business/july-bankruptcies-coronavirus/index.html
and California Pizza Kitchen just filed as well: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/business/california-pizza-kitchen-bankruptcy/index.html
or do we want to go into furloughs that are turning into layoffs and permanent job losses? see: https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...ming-hopes-fade-that-jobs-will-return-quickly
The business and employment landscape has changed and is continuing to change drastically. The economy is currently on a downward spiral in a negative feedback loop that is making things worse daily. The longer things go the worse it's going to get.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Disney has really screwed up on not embracing the locals right now.
Meanwhile, Sea World and Bush Gardens are already revving up the local marketing plans... They get it.
CaptainAmerica
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Why are they artificially capping demand on specific TYPES of guests? Seems like could at least unblock Cast Members same-day to get some F&B revenue.
Riverrafter21
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You mean how all people follow a pattern to occasionally be right and have a tendency to be occasionally wrong?
I've been reading the board for a few years before I registered, so I get it. In this case I view this info to be rooted in enough truth, to give it an ear.
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That I don't know. Although adding extra AP capacity as we know was initially slow.
Because no one wants to make a gutsy move.. and rather hide under there desk (er, there work at home desks)
It's just unreal how messed up they have done this. I mean, just unreal.
It's like they WANT to re-close the parks, that's the only way you can explain how backwards they approached this.
(how much of a tax write-off could they take if they did reclose.. hmm)
hopemax
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I meant to post, but when I checked yesterday, CM's could look for reservations for themselves thru Sunday. DHS was booked, but there was availability for the other 3 parks. I don't know when they changed it. But it looks like they might be opening them one week at a time. Still can't sign in guests.
Tom Morrow
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I wasn’t referring to you of course. You’re always here and we know you’re the real deal!
tirian
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I would’ve loved it as a short-term merch line, similar to the old “Electric Mouse” or “‘80s Mickey and Minnie” or “‘90s X-Treme Sports Mickey.”
For me, the issue was more about Iger’s arrogance to attempt to completely replace decades of Mickey Mouse with the design style from His Reign as CEO. Sorry that Mickey’s design remained essentially unchanged from Fantasia (despite redesign attempts in the late 40s and 50s), but that’s Walt’s Mickey via Fred Moore. If it all started with a Mouse, it all started with Walt’s Mouse. Yet the birthday celebration and surrounding merch, even the POTC plush, looked like Iger’s Mickey. Luckily, it didn’t sell well and the company reverted to Walt’s Mickey. Maybe I shouldn’t complain because at least he didn’t insert his portrait into a gift shop like Phil Homes.
So as you can see, IMHO, the issue was larger—and maybe darker—than simply using the latest Mickey design for MRR.
It does relate to the thread’s OP because we’re talking about Iger’s ego and how it affected the company.
TrainsOfDisney
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After the bonus free month I’m not even sure how it’s legal to not let in passholders when there is space - but the last time i mentioned that I was jumped on pretty quick.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Yes.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
If I had to guess...and I will...
APs are very tough situation.
There are too many close where they can’t allow “whims” to causes spikes a couple days out by a rush of bookings...
Their hotel capacity is also very limited.
And as always...they “want” them there...but don’t want them there because they aren’t as valuable per person as others.
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