This drives me nuts. People heard the first half of the message then tuned out the second half. Flatten the curve was yes about keeping hospital capacity available. However, it was also about keeping infections low until we were able to either 1) develop a robust testing/tracing/isolating program to keep outbreaks minimal 2) developed a therapeutic 3) a vaccine. We have done none of those things. We just gave up, which is why we wasted three months with a shut down and nothing to show for it. Not one thing.
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This drives me nuts. People heard the first half of the message then tuned out the second half. Flatten the curve was yes about keeping hospital capacity available. However, it was also about keeping infections low until we were able to either 1) develop a robust testing/tracing/isolating program to keep outbreaks minimal 2) developed a therapeutic 3) a vaccine. We have done none of those things. We just gave up, which is why we wasted three months with a shut down and nothing to show for it. Not one thing.
note2001
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I happened to notice that he was at Disney after or very close to when we started gearing up for shut downs. I think there are valid points on every side of this but can we all agree that pearl clutching about others going to Disney and then going yourself is cringe?
Wait, I'm confused. Who's pearl clutching and then going to the park openings? Tracker? Doesn't he have a newborn at home?
rabidstoat
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Tracker went to Disney but didn't do any indoor rides, as those were beyond his comfort level. He did ask questions about them. He went on some outside rides like the Speedway and BTM and Teacups.
mickeymiss
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Craig Williams on Dis unplugged as well. Tim Tracker and his wife both said they wouldn't go to the parks when they open. They said this when UO announced opening (back when cases were much lower than now). Tim has since been to UO at least a few times and Disney last week. There have been posters on here as well pearl clutching while also attending opening week.
My question is...who is pressuring them to go? Their channels do well enough without park content.
TrainsOfDisney
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Perhaps their personal comfort level has changed? I’m getting instacart and drive thru coffee.. when this all started I was going into my coffee shop daily. (My French press has NEVER been used this much!).
I know Tom Bricker said that after their first breakfast at the Riveria, they have chosen to only dine outdoors based on their comfort level. We all get to choose what we are comfortable with.
I know Tom Bricker said that after their first breakfast at the Riveria, they have chosen to only dine outdoors based on their comfort level. We all get to choose what we are comfortable with.
I have absolutely zero issues with vloggers/influencers making money whether it's for Disney or unboxing a pack of Irish Spring soap.Tim Tracker and his wife seemed very hesitant to visit any theme parks back when Florida wasn't having a spike like this but he's been going and went to Disney. He seems to have resorted to family vlogs during the shut down. Is there that much pressure on Disney vloggers to go when it opens? I wouldn't know. I watch them selectively. That guy from Dis Unplugged seemed pretty skittish about covid when UO opened but he's been there a lot and went to Disney last week too. I could even see the Disney sparkle in his eye despite the mask
I do have issues with the hypocrisy in regards to their reactions/opinions on how the parks (Uni/Disney/SW), should be more concerned about "everybody", Yet they themselves just visited for two days and stayed on property and littered their Instagram/Twitter/Snap with captions describing how excited they were to back at WDW....
But don't get me wrong, there are many vloggers/lifestylers who have simply documented the time line of the parks closing up until the re-opening sans personal opinions or critique. That's the news people are looking for (in regards to Central Florida theme parks). I don't care that youre "so concerned" or "disappointed" that the parks shouldn't be open, **after you just spent the last 3 days filming everywhere from Disney Springs to various resorts to Magic Kingdom!
If you believe the parks shouldn't be open, then you shouldn't be there.
I read a (ten page long) Instagram post from a very popular lifestyler who has been reaping the benefits and non stop flooding his/her social media for the last week with absolute excitement to back at Disney Springs last week and attending CM preview ,AP Preview, and opening day preview at MK. All of his/her posts over the last few days were nothing but excitement and happiness to finally be back, but this evening, they posted a full ten page post on how they won't be returning due to their concern for safety and Florida being a hot spot.
These are the same people who claim that anybody not wearing a mask at all times is "selfish" and "just wants to return to how things were". Yet they ignore their own disregard for the very thing they are critical of.
Miss Bella
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We have more ventilators than we could ever need in fact we send them to other countries. We have PPE, and the hospitals have done a great job preparing and are handling the surges very well. Thank you very much.
oceanbreeze77
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maybe your hospital is handling it well, but if you look outside of your own circle you would see that there are plenty of hospitals suffering. Staff shortages, only allocated one PPE gown per day, nurses are still having to use one N95 for their entire shift, and many hospitals in surge states are beginning to double up rooms. Thats not success.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Well, they sure picked a heck of a time to go.
oceanbreeze77
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Like I said, look outside of your own circle.
PPE Shortages:
The US PPE shortage is so bad that nurses are reusing N95 masks for weeks at a time
With coronavirus cases surging across the US, healthcare workers on the frontlines can't get enough personal protective equipment — again.
www.insider.com
As coronavirus cases surge, doctors and nurses fear shortage of PPE
Health care workers are afraid that there will be a shortage in personal protective equipment (PPE) as coronavirus surges in some states.
www.foxnews.com
Staff Shortages:
COVID-19 Update: Beds Filling Up, Medical Staff Shortages, Cases Exploding
COVID-19 numbers are skyrocketing in Maricopa County and Arizona at large. Experts say the situation is only going to get worse.
www.phoenixnewtimes.com
Federal response team will soon help North Texas hospitals with surge in COVID-19 cases
A federal disaster response team is on the way to help North Texas hospitals care for COVID-19 patients.
Hospital Bed problems:
Houston hospitals turning away patients as coronavirus overwhelms ERs
The busiest hospitals in Houston are increasingly telling emergency responders they cannot safely accept new patients as hundreds of coronavirus patients crowd emergency rooms, and hospitals scramble to open more intensive care space.
www.texastribune.org
Inundated Houston hospitals issue grim advisory to ambulances: Go elsewhere
Officials in Houston warn of a potential replay of what happened in New York in the spring, when thousands of people died as hospitals struggled to keep up.
www.nbcnews.com
As much as it feels like you can change hearts and minds on the internet that is most of the time not true. Sometimes it just feels good to cut your losses.
oceanbreeze77
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I'm not necessarily saying we should try to change their minds, but it is important to know what they are thinking and saying.
Casper Gutman
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This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. We... do... not... have... enough... PPE. You don’t even need to read those articles - try to get N95 masks.Like I said, look outside of your own circle.
PPE Shortages:
The US PPE shortage is so bad that nurses are reusing N95 masks for weeks at a time
With coronavirus cases surging across the US, healthcare workers on the frontlines can't get enough personal protective equipment — again.As coronavirus cases surge, doctors and nurses fear shortage of PPE
Health care workers are afraid that there will be a shortage in personal protective equipment (PPE) as coronavirus surges in some states.
Staff Shortages:
COVID-19 Update: Beds Filling Up, Medical Staff Shortages, Cases Exploding
COVID-19 numbers are skyrocketing in Maricopa County and Arizona at large. Experts say the situation is only going to get worse.Federal response team will soon help North Texas hospitals with surge in COVID-19 cases
A federal disaster response team is on the way to help North Texas hospitals care for COVID-19 patients.www.fox4news.com
Hospital Bed problems:
Houston hospitals turning away patients as coronavirus overwhelms ERs
The busiest hospitals in Houston are increasingly telling emergency responders they cannot safely accept new patients as hundreds of coronavirus patients crowd emergency rooms, and hospitals scramble to open more intensive care space.Inundated Houston hospitals issue grim advisory to ambulances: Go elsewhere
Officials in Houston warn of a potential replay of what happened in New York in the spring, when thousands of people died as hospitals struggled to keep up.
And it’s impossible to overstate how big a deal this is. Putting aside hospitals for a moment, if we all had and wore N95s, this would be over. We could reopen schools, reopen businesses, travel abroad, go to WDW, eat at restaurants, watch sports.
On just this one, single, solitary issue, the scale of the failure at multiple levels of society is staggering.
Jimmy Thick
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You know if you flag his videos as harmful dangerous acts his videos will get demonetized. People at Disney World or anyone appearing in vlog's without masks can be considered a harmful dangerous act and Google is looking for anyway not to pay out for content.
But you didn't hear that from me.
Jimmy Thick- My son's Youtube gravy train keeps on a rollin'...
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
And you went on opening day. Amazing.
Polkadotdress
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A direct quote from the mayor of Miami, who shares that there IS a problem, and that there is a disconnect on information that is being publicly shared.
"We're going to have to start moving regular beds into ICU beds. We're clearly being strained at this point," Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber said. "There's a total disconnect between what is happening and being said out of Washington and even Tallahassee and what is happening in some of these communities right here."
"According to local media reports, Hong Kong Disneyland will reclose due to an increase in COVID-19 cases. Local twitter account HKDL Of Fantasy reported the imminent closure, saying that formal details will be coming later."
t.co
BREAKING: Hong Kong Disneyland to Reclose After Increase in COVID-19 Cases
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