News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[The Grand Inquisitor]

So does anyone have a full description of what Jim said the ride is going to be like?

 

[Model3 McQueen]

So does anyone have a full description of what Jim said the ride is going to be like?

 

[Surferboy567]

So does anyone have a full description of what Jim said the ride is going to be like?

So good ol Jim Hill speaks about the Splash Mountain re theme on his podcast today.

Here are some of the highlights...

- Princess Tiana and Naveen will not be frogs and only be seen at the beginning (How do you do) and end (Zip-a-dee-doo-day scenes)

- Louis is driving the story. The majority of the ride from How Do you do through Laughing Place will be Louis chasing his trumpet that he drops in the flume / water.

- They will honor some of Splash Mountain vignettes like Brer Bear stuck in the honey for example with Louis stuck in prickles (?)

-Blacklit scenes during Laughing Place will now be Ray and the other fireflies.

-Burrows Lament through first lift hill will be “friends on the other side” with projections on the tunnel and Dr Facilers shadow where Brer Fox’s shadow is now

-Mama Odie will be at top of lift hill and waves her magic wand to stop Dr. Facilier. The Blast of magic is what sends riders down the hill

-You will be surrounded by cranes who sing “Dig a little Deeper” in the drop tunnel.

-Zip a dee dopo dah finale takes place on the New Orleans waterfront with fireworks going off and Louis reunited with his trumpet.

-One last gag where Brer Fox and Brer Bear are being bit by the gator in Splash... Louis loses his trumpet again (4 feet later) and is frantically looking for it but unbeknownst to him it’s on his head.


- flume layout stays the same

- PatF wouldn’t open until 2024/2025

- Disney would like to do some Splash is going away fan events and sell limited edition merch.

- Splash might close in 2022 after WDW 50th anniversary. (Not sure if this applies to DL as well)

-Disneylands version will at least lose 40 of the animatronics or more.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Thank you! the ride honestly doesn't sound too bad. It should be pretty nice.

 

[Tinkwings]

Just a heads up - there's now an actual push at high levels to pause changing Splash in Florida indefinitely (without officially canceling). Part of this is internal polls they've seen after the announcement, but a larger part is they're increasingly strapped for cash. I'll be able to hopefully discuss why they're more financially harmed right now than a week ago, but that will be its own thread later this week (if I can).

The DL version will absolutely be changing though. Japan will not change as their political and cultural atmosphere is decidedly different than California in the present.

Well honestly this post MADE my entire week.....just what I had been hoping for and wings crossed that it comes to fulfillment or should I say it doesn't get done at WDW at all.....sure would not mind some special Splash Mountain gear in the meantime.....WOOHOO! That and I had planned my first trip to DLR this September which is on indefinite hold, but gives me another reason to visit it in the future to see the NEW ride! (and get another t shirt....)

 

[Surferboy567]

I think you wouldn’t announce something and then next week decide they aren’t going to do it. Unless fan demand plays a part which Disney doesn’t normally care about.

 

[EagleScout610]

Just a heads up - there's now an actual push at high levels to pause changing Splash in Florida indefinitely (without officially canceling). Part of this is internal polls they've seen after the announcement, but a larger part is they're increasingly strapped for cash. I'll be able to hopefully discuss why they're more financially harmed right now than a week ago, but that will be its own thread later this week (if I can).

The DL version will absolutely be changing though. Japan will not change as their political and cultural atmosphere is decidedly different than California in the present.

 

[Tim Lohr]

This is all driven by:

• Song of the South association must go. No saving it.
• Replacement must be "more Disney", and by "more Disney" they're talking about a popular IP that they want to promote. The American folktales had their day and their popularity is gone.
• Make it work first and foremost in Disneyland. Putting a New Orleans based IP next to a New Orleans mini-land is a no-brainer.
• Cloning it to MK is to save money on re-imagineering some other re-theme (which is costly). Any detriment to overall theme of the land is WDW's problem, and generally, WDW doesn't mind such inconsistencies. I could tick of a dozen such things in MK. Hopefully, one day, WDW will care and fix some of them.

Yeah I know what it's "driven by", but people like yourself simply accepting that... is the real problem

I think they could use this as an oppertiuty to

1 Celebrate the history of the Walt Disney Company and Walt Disney Animation, and at the the same time introducing the public the actual American History

2 Make the Park more diverse at the same time, buy filling in an area of Magic Kingdom that sat empty for 50 years, with these new Animated Characters

 

[WDW Pro]

That doesn’t make any sense afte Disney stirred everyone up please elaborate.

I'll try to later this week with permission from a source.



Note the difference in when I say something is going to happen (like when I announced the Mary Poppins attraction and midday discounted tickets) and when I announce talks occurring behind the scenes. One features a decision having absolutely been made, the other is given in order to let people see into the decision making process.

 

[brb1006]

Also, let’s be honest—it’s a bad movie

The only good thing was the Yodel-Adle-Eedle-Idle-Oo sequence.

 

[jt04]

I'll try to later this week with permission from a source.



Note the difference in when I say something is going to happen (like when I announced the Mary Poppins attraction and midday discounted tickets) and when I announce talks occurring behind the scenes. One features a decision having absolutely been made, the other is given in order to let people see into the decision making process.

So the Weird Al rumor could have been one of a hundred blue sky ideas written on a white board during a brainstorming session?

Got it.

 

[LittleBuford]

The only good thing was the Yodel-Adle-Eedle-Idle-Oo sequence.

I can't tell if you're joking or not. That's the moment that had me cringing the most.

 

[brb1006]

I can't tell if you're joking or not. That's the moment that had me cringing the most.

Only for the lighting and animation.

 

[drizgirl]

Just a heads up - there's now an actual push at high levels to pause changing Splash in Florida indefinitely (without officially canceling). Part of this is internal polls they've seen after the announcement, but a larger part is they're increasingly strapped for cash. I'll be able to hopefully discuss why they're more financially harmed right now than a week ago, but that will be its own thread later this week (if I can).

The DL version will absolutely be changing though. Japan will not change as their political and cultural atmosphere is decidedly different than California in the present.

My eyes can't roll any farther back into my head.

Is it racially insensitive? Or isn't it?

Has Disney's financial situation changed THAT much in the last couple of weeks?

 

[Surferboy567]

Has Disney's financial situation changed THAT much in the last couple of weeks?

Sure I’m forgetting many things but Hamilton just released on Disney Plus probably bringing in tons of new subs and by extension revenue.

Many parks have opened by then and while are not pulling anything like they used to are pulling in revenue again.

Maybe, they are trying to cover their losses? Even that doesn’t make sense since they wouldn’t of announced it. I still think it’s happening unless Pro comes up with a reason (which their very well maybe) something doesn’t add up.

 

[LittleBuford]

Is it racially insensitive? Or isn't it?

Disney's own statements have been very circumspect in this regard. Their announcement of the retheme made no mention of the (arguably) problematic nature of Splash Mountain.

 

[RSoxNo1]

On the latest Disney Dish podcast with Jim Hill and @lentesta, they discussed possible scenes...

• The attraction will largely follow Louis the alligator trying to find his missing trumpet case on his way to a Mardi Gras celebration
• Tiana is expected to appear in the current "How do you Do" scene as well as the attraction's finale
• Some of the animal animatronics may be repurposed
• Some of the visual gags may have similar scenes in the new version of the attraction. An example given was Br'er Bear with his nose stuck in a beehive may be replaced with Louis covered in prickers
• The fireflies are expected to appears in the current black light scene
• Dr. Facilier's Friends form the Otherside are expected to make an appearance on the final lift hill before being cast off by Mama Odie at the top. Her spell to do away with Dr. Facilier will also send us down the waterfall.
• The time frame for the new attraction to open may not be until 2024-2025 with a closure not until 2022.

 

[Surferboy567]

On the latest Disney Dish podcast with Jim Hill and @lentesta, they discussed possible scenes...

• The attraction will largely follow Louis the alligator trying to find his missing trumpet case on his way to a Mardi Gras celebration
• Tiana is expected to appear in the current "How do you Do" scene as well as the attraction's finale
• Some of the animal animatronics may be repurposed
• Some of the visual gags may have similar scenes in the new version of the attraction. An example given was Br'er Bear with his nose stuck in a beehive may be replaced with Louis covered in prickers
• The fireflies are expected to appears in the current black light scene
• Dr. Facilier's Friends form the Otherside are expected to make an appearance on the final lift hill before being cast off by Mama Odie at the top. Her spell to do away with Dr. Facilier will also send us down the waterfall.
• The time frame for the new attraction to open may not be until 2024-2025 with a closure not until 2022.

This has been posted a few times but now it got me thinking about the last point:

”The time frame for the new attraction to open may not be until 2024-2025 with a closure not until 2022”

Why would they cancel a redo if this is the timetable that doesn’t make any sense. Either Pro is wrong or Hill is wrong both sources aren’t adding up.

 

[GoofGoof]

On the latest Disney Dish podcast with Jim Hill and @lentesta, they discussed possible scenes...

• The attraction will largely follow Louis the alligator trying to find his missing trumpet case on his way to a Mardi Gras celebration
• Tiana is expected to appear in the current "How do you Do" scene as well as the attraction's finale
• Some of the animal animatronics may be repurposed
• Some of the visual gags may have similar scenes in the new version of the attraction. An example given was Br'er Bear with his nose stuck in a beehive may be replaced with Louis covered in prickers
• The fireflies are expected to appears in the current black light scene
• Dr. Facilier's Friends form the Otherside are expected to make an appearance on the final lift hill before being cast off by Mama Odie at the top. Her spell to do away with Dr. Facilier will also send us down the waterfall.
• The time frame for the new attraction to open may not be until 2024-2025 with a closure not until 2022.

Sounds pretty decent. I would be good if I got a last ride in on the old version next summer. If they wait that long maybe they can actually increase the budget and do a more extensive project like we have talked about here.

 

[Touchdown]

Disney Plus brings in $6.99 per subscriber. People drop thousands on a Disney World vacation they are not at all in the same league.

Disney has now realized that:
-Covid is not going away and will be suppressing interstate travel for at least the rest of the year
-International travel will be nonexistent for the rest of 2020
-They’ve already given up on Halloween, MVMCP and the CP 2020 is on its deathbed and will die unless something dramatic happens in the next month
-Demand is going to be soft through Oct 2021, and possibly after
-Movie Theatres are likely going to remain closed for the entire summer, and potentially the rest of the year

This is disastrous for the company.