News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
Prior to New Fantasyland it had been 20 years since the Magic Kingdom received a major new attraction that could be considered a draw.

Attendance will take a significant hit from Covid but it’s due to a pandemic not a lack of interest in the product.

The Magic Kingdom didn’t need TRON when it was announced and it won’t need TRON when it reopens either. TRON will come. There is zero need to rush it. Very simple.
I disagree. When you have 27,000 hotel rooms and most are going to be empty, you need to find ways to fill them. TRON is one such answer.
 

peter11435

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I disagree. When you have 27,000 hotel rooms and most are going to be empty, you need to find ways to fill them. TRON is one such answer.
The reason the rooms will be empty is not because of lack of interest in their current offerings. Lack of new attractions didn’t cause a global pandemic. Adding new attractions won’t be the catalyst that corrects the problems Covid created.

They will finish TRON. Rushing to do so would be pointless and irresponsible.
 

manmythlegend

Well-Known Member
Prior to New Fantasyland it had been 20 years since the Magic Kingdom received a major new attraction that could be considered a draw.

Attendance will take a significant hit from Covid but it’s due to a pandemic not a lack of interest in the product.

The Magic Kingdom didn’t need TRON when it was announced and it won’t need TRON when it reopens either. TRON will come. There is zero need to rush it. Very simple.

MK, and the rest of the parks for that matter, were crowded beyond belief. Yes, TRON is needed, and so are other rides to help spread out the crowds. Tiana ain't gonna get it done.
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
The reason the rooms will be empty is not because of lack of interest in their current offerings. Lack of new attractions didn’t cause a global pandemic. Adding new attractions won’t be the catalyst that corrects the problems Covid created.

They will finish TRON. Rushing to do so would be pointless and irresponsible.
It’s not irresponsible. They have the money and can safely work on construction. Lack of new additions didn’t cause their drop in attendance, granted. But, to get a major part of their attendance back, they need new draws. Look at Uni. Their attendance is weak right now.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
MK, and the rest of the parks for that matter, were crowded beyond belief. Yes, TRON is needed, and so are other rides to help spread out the crowds. Tiana ain't gonna get it done.
Major new attractions with relatively limited capacities don’t spread out the crowd, they add to it. And the argument I’m making is that it is not needed to boost attendance. Which is exactly what you should want based on your complaint about attendance.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
It’s not irresponsible. They have the money and can safely work on construction. Lack of new additions didn’t cause their drop in attendance, granted. But, to get a major part of their attendance back, they need new draws. Look at Uni. Their attendance is weak right now.
It is irresponsible. They have money, but that doesn’t mean it’s responsible to spend it unnecessarily while they are making virtually none. Most aspects of the company have made no revenue for over an entire quarter and lack of profits will continue for some time. I also don’t think it’s appropriate to say you can safely work on construction at this point.

Yes, Universals attendance is weak. But that’s because of a global pandemic along with state, interstate, and international travel restrictions, and Disney being closed. Even if Universal had a major new attraction to market at the moment their attendance would still be weak. You’re trying to fight the wrong battle right now.
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
It is irresponsible. They have money, but that doesn’t mean it’s responsible to spend it unnecessarily while they are making virtually none. Most aspects of the company have made no revenue for over an entire quarter and lack of profits will continue for some time. I also don’t think it’s appropriate to say you can safely work on construction at this point.

Yes, Universals attendance is weak. But that’s because of a global pandemic along with state, interstate, and international travel restrictions, and Disney being closed. Even if Universal had a major new attraction to market at the moment their attendance would still be weak. You’re trying to fight the wrong battle right now.
Tron won’t be finished next month. You’re being short sighted. They have to think about next year.
 

EricsBiscuit

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I’m not being short sighted.

TRON will come.

They are thinking about next year. Trust me.

TRON is not and won’t be the solution to the current problem.

The MK will ultimately be fine with or without it.
MK might be fine but the other parks might not. A rising tide lifts all boats. You have to give guests a reason to come back and new guests more reasons to go.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
MK might be fine but the other parks might not. A rising tide lifts all boats. You have to give guests a reason to come back and new guests more reasons to go.
The MK was already underwater pre pandemic. As was DHS.

The other parks have already received massive new additions or are in the process. Galaxies edge, and Runaway Railway have still not been experienced by most people. Ratatouille, Guardians, and even Tron are still on their way. A 6-18 month delay in their opening will not have a negative impact on the resort.
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
The MK was already underwater pre pandemic. As was DHS.

The other parks have already received massive new additions or are in the process. Galaxies edge, and Runaway Railway have still not been experienced by most people. Ratatouille, Guardians, and even Tron are still on their way. A 6-18 month delay in their opening will not have a negative impact on the resort.
6 months of increased attendance is a ton of money.
 

peter11435

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6 months of increased attendance is a ton of money.
Yes, and 6 months of no attendance is a ton of money they don’t have at the moment.

For the foreseeable future attendance is going to incrementally increase over time and will be what it is with or without TRON. It’s going to be sometime until something like that would work to drive attendance, and when that time comes TRON will be here.
 

Mainahman

Well-Known Member
Yes, and 6 months of no attendance is a ton of money they don’t have at the moment.

For the foreseeable future attendance is going to incrementally increase over time and will be what it is with or without TRON. It’s going to be sometime until something like that would work to drive attendance, and when that time comes TRON will be here.
It sounds like they are setup to limit atendance if they want/need to just up to the 50th, that being said, theires going to be fallout in general from this you are right. Plenty of people just wont go, not because they could get sick, but because they lost a job to this, or just cant swing it... shall be interesting to see crowds slowly go up, and what is seen as the " new normal"
 

manmythlegend

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Major new attractions with relatively limited capacities don’t spread out the crowd, they add to it. And the argument I’m making is that it is not needed to boost attendance. Which is exactly what you should want based on your complaint about attendance.

You say new attractions like Tron add to the crowd yet they are not needed to boost attendance. That doesn't make sense.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
You say new attractions like Tron add to the crowd yet they are not needed to boost attendance. That doesn't make sense.
It’s not that it doesn’t make sense it’s that you don’t understand it.

New attractions like TRON do add to attendance. I never said it didn’t. But the MK was not in need of an attendance boost pre pandemic and certainly doesn’t need one right now or for the foreseeable future.

Ever heard of induced demand?
 

manmythlegend

Well-Known Member
It’s not that it doesn’t make sense it’s that you don’t understand it.

New attractions like TRON do add to attendance. I never said it didn’t. But the MK was not in need of an attendance boost pre pandemic and certainly doesn’t need one right now or for the foreseeable future.

Ever heard of induced demand?

"In need of an attendance boost" is in the eye of the beholder. Disney always wants to boost attendance and will do whatever it takes to make that happen. I enjoy MK but quite a few people think it has become stale and in need of something new. Tron will do that whether you want to believe it or not.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
"In need of an attendance boost" is in the eye of the beholder. Disney always wants to boost attendance and will do whatever it takes to make that happen.

No, not at the MK. Bob Iger talked about MK being too crowded and how that reduces guest satisfaction. MK get on average twice the number of guests than it's built for.

MK needs new attractions that aren't so attractive that it boosts attendance, but, 'eats people'. Something like the abandoned Main Street Theater.

MK needs the other parks to get more attractions to draw people out of the MK and to them.
 

manmythlegend

Well-Known Member
They don’t need to boost attendance with a major new attraction when the park can only operate at a fraction of its full capacity.

Opening and marketing Tron right now would waste thousands if not millions in potential attendance.

I'm not arguing otherwise. Tron isn't and wasn't planned for 2020. It was planned for mid to late next year always.
 

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