Universal Puts Disney's Reopening on Defensive

[Touchdown]

You know it wouldn’t work until September, but if they restricted guest entry and made sure to run two firework shows maybe MNSSHP could happen. Imagine:

7:00 BTY Parade
8:00 Hocus Pocus
9:00 Fireworks

10:00 Fireworks
10:30 Hocus Pocus
11:00 Parade
12:00 Hocus Pocus

Expensive, I don’t know if they have enough cannons to load for two shows a night or if they have to reload in between (which if true would probably take more then 1 hour) but by clearly splitting up entertainment into two blocks would hopefully keep from having the hub be too much of a cluster.

Of course this is only speculation and assumes we don’t have a second wave in the fall but I foresee theme parks trying their hardest to do Halloween, it has become the industry’s most profitable season (Disney it’s likely second to Christmas, but still.)

 

[asianway]

What about ma and pa who brought Bubby and Sissy over from Pop Century? What about them??

Don’t worry they’ve done a poor job up until now keeping the riff raff out

 

[DisneyCane]

There will always be those who wear them incorrectly or remove them when they shouldn’t, but making it a requirement vs optional will substantially increase the percentage of guests utilizing them. It was never about eliminating risk and spread just about reducing risk and spread.

After being in two airports, on a flight and a parking shuttle, all of which required people to wear masks, I've determined that requiring them at WDW is pointless. Between the number of people with their nose uncovered, removing them to make a phone call, pulling them down because it gets annoying after a few hours or to eat/drink, less than half of the people I observed wore one properly the whole time.

Nobody in either airport enforced the rule, nor did the flight attendants nor the shuttle driver. No way that WDW cast members will either.

 

[Touchdown]

Can we, please, please, please stop debating if masks are helpful. Disney has announced they plan to require them, so for the near term you will need them, we don’t know how much Disney will enforce it and that is also pointless to debate. Move on.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Don’t worry they’ve done a poor job up until now keeping the riff raff out

Well maybe this new normal will be their excuse

 

[peter11435]

After being in two airports, on a flight and a parking shuttle, all of which required people to wear masks, I've determined that requiring them at WDW is pointless. Between the number of people with their nose uncovered, removing them to make a phone call, pulling them down because it gets annoying after a few hours or to eat/drink, less than half of the people I observed wore one properly the whole time.

Nobody in either airport enforced the rule, nor did the flight attendants nor the shuttle driver. No way that WDW cast members will either.

There will obviously be those who disobey the rules and don’t wear masks and others who wear them but don’t do so properly. But there will be more people wearing them than there would be if they were not required. And that is why it’s not pointless. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing to be effective.

 

[drew81]

All hard tickets in 2020 have little chance of happening.

I’d say .0001%.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Can we, please, please, please stop debating if masks are helpful. Disney has announced they plan to require them, so for the near term you will need them, we don’t know how much Disney will enforce it and that is also pointless to debate. Move on.

But there’s nothing else to talk about

 

[WondersOfLife]

All hard tickets in 2020 have little chance of happening this year.

I’d say .0001%.

Dang you know everything.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

What about ma and pa who brought Bubby and Sissy over from Pop Century? What about them??

Look, I like to go to other resorts and visit, too. It’s part of the experience. So if you are either an AP or resort staying guest, you should have free movement. The rest? In this circumstance, no.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

It comes down to capacity. Too many folks, not enough tables. I can count on one hand the number of times i’ve been able to sit and have a snack. It usually involved rain.

I’d just not eat, but that’s me.

 

[doctornick]

I can see this working in theory but the time between exit and entry is very small. So you'd need to mark the cabins at exit so nobody went in on the other side, and then fog the cabin on the trip out... which would be a huge problem if there were any mistakes and they fogged a cabin with people in it.

More realistically they can have people in hazmat suits enter when the guests get off and spray the seats quickly, so you know on the other side which to leave alone. That doesn't seem to me like something people would be accepting of in their vacation though. At least half empty buses can be swapped out or sprayed and left to sit for a few minutes of evaporation between runs. I just don't see the skyliner as a useful transportation tool until or unless CDC says there is no surface transmission, rather than shrugging their shoulders.

Don't know if anyone has suggested it, but my thought would be to use every other cabin. When a full cabin comes in, those guests exit and you don't use it at that station. While it is in that station, you have a CM who goes in and "fogs" it so that when that cabin gets to the next station, it will be used. Meanwhile, guests boarding will only be going into every other cabin that has been cleaned at the previous station.

I think each cabin stays in the station long enough for a CM to pop in and clean and have it be ready for the next station.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Don’t worry they’ve done a poor job up until now keeping the riff raff out

I don’t mind people visiting the resorts, but I do mind when their “visit” interferes with my vacation. People using the poly pool, renting all the boats, tying up the dining areas...thank God the club building requires magic bands for entry.

 

[Gringrinngghost]

I didn't really understand that either. A few weeks ago the same poster stated that there would be a special fireworks show for the 4th even though the parks would still be closed. There are articles from January about shortages so... Did Disney just learn this or what?

WDW has imported for 2020 so far slightly above 70,000 lbs of fireworks alone.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

WDW has imported for 2020 so far slightly above 70,000 lbs of fireworks alone.

Is that for the three parks or just the Magic Kingdom??

 

[JenniferS]

Again, take it to the Politics Forum.

 

[Gringrinngghost]

Is that for the three parks or just the Magic Kingdom??

I would assume it’s the 3 parks divided. All I know is that they gotten 71,100lbs of fireworks since January 1st, 2020 in 2 shipments. The Bill of Landing that I can see “DANGEROUS GOODS AS PER ATTACHED DANGEROUS GOODS TRANSPORT DOCUMENT.“

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

I would assume it’s the 3 parks divided. All I know is that they gotten 71,100lbs of fireworks since January 1st, 2020 in 2 shipments. The Bill of Landing that I can see “DANGEROUS GOODS AS PER ATTACHED DANGEROUS GOODS TRANSPORT DOCUMENT.“

Wow. That’s a lot of fireworks. I’m sure their vendor is loving the parks getting back on line.

 

[SourcererMark79]

I feel sorry for someone that has to eat over a trash can...I just can’t.

There are worse surfaces to eat on at the parks, and I'm not talking about the restrooms

 

[lazyboy97o]

Then should Disney take a chance and open up if there are barriers beyond their control but Still liable if someone gets sick? Even if it was after their trip to Disney?

Disney is not just concerned about legal liability. Kind of hard to run a facility if your staff is all out sick for weeks.