News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Giss Neric

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For anyone curious about this ride, I call this ride the "mid brakes the ride" cause there are a lot of it. The first part is intense but the intensity not as much inside the show building cause of the mid brakes. It looks like the exact as Shanghai. The leaning forward position you are in is what makes it great.
 

UNCgolf

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Okay, fine then. Let's put Mystic Manor in Hollywood Studios. Then with the black box ride coming, we can have four LPS rides in one park. And with Ratatouille, we can have five of them in all of Walt Disney World. I'm sure you will applaud the diversity.

The ride system is mostly irrelevant to me. Almost every ride could be an omnimover, or LPS, or whatever and I'd be fine as long as the subject/settings are different and the show scenes are good.

I'm not saying it's not nice to have the occasional ride like Splash Mountain or Expedition Everest. But I don't see any issue with having 5 LPS rides at WDW; they could have 15 and it wouldn't make any difference as long as they were all solid rides.
 

Imagineer45

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You can definitely see a pattern with a lot of the recent builds. Shanghai has two big rides that have garnered acclaim, Tron and Pirates. There is already a Pirates stateside so they build Tron. Walt Disney Studios Park has a ride that has garnered some acclaim, Ratatouille. So build it stateside. Hong Kong Disneyland has Mystic Manor which has garnered acclaim but it is that park’s haunted mansion which the states already have so sadly we will probably never get it.
I mentioned this before in a different thread, but I always thought Mystic Manor could retain the exact same ride system, layout, etc., and be simply rethemed to Night at the Museum for the US parks.

Okay, fine then. Let's put Mystic Manor in Hollywood Studios. Then with the black box ride coming, we can have four LPS rides in one park. And with Ratatouille, we can have five of them in all of Walt Disney World. I'm sure you will applaud the diversity.
Snow White, Pinocchio, Alice in Wonderland, Mr. Toad, and Winnie the Pooh all use similar ride systems at DL and I do not see anyone complaining...
 

doctornick

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I mentioned this before in a different thread, but I always thought Mystic Manor could retain the exact same ride system, layout, etc., and be simply rethemed to Night at the Museum for the US parks.

It could and that would certainly easily work. But I've always thought that bringing Mystic Manor to the US as is would be a good idea. I wouldn't put it in MK (though the "it's a HM equivalent" doesn't bother me at all just like I don't think it matters for Tron/Space) but in one of the other parks. Specifically, I think it would be a good fit in Animal Kingdom... why couldn't Lord Mystic have built his house in Anandapur? Seems like it would be a perfect place for an explorer like he to retire.

It would really be the type of ride that DAK needs to round out the the offerings there.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Snow White, Pinocchio, Alice in Wonderland, Mr. Toad, and Winnie the Pooh all use similar ride systems at DL and I do not see anyone complaining...

Yup. And Roger Rabbit is very similar as well as Monsters Inc. next door.

Specifically, I think it would be a good fit in Animal Kingdom...

Oh I hadn’t thought about that... it would be an excellent fit! I wish so much that we could have Adventurers Club (a family friendly version) at DAK. You know Joe has tried to sneak it in there!

Would Mystic Manor fit on the land that Kali winds around?
 
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SilentWindODoom

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wasn't steampunk to begin with



You can definitely see a pattern with a lot of the recent builds. Shanghai has two big rides that have garnered acclaim, Tron and Pirates. There is already a Pirates stateside so they build Tron. Walt Disney Studios Park has a ride that has garnered some acclaim, Ratatouille. So build it stateside. Hong Kong Disneyland has Mystic Manor which has garnered acclaim but it is that park’s haunted mansion which the states already have so sadly we will probably never get it.

Has Ratatouille gained acclaim? I've only heart people complain about it and any positives have been the bolstering of the paltry worst part in the family.
 

doctornick

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Has Ratatouille gained acclaim? I've only heart people complain about it and any positives have been the bolstering of the paltry worst part in the family.

It has its detractors, but I've mostly seen positive reviews. The negative concerns seem more along the line of "this could be a better ride with certain modifications" than "this is bad". It suffers in Paris by being the big time addition to the Studios Park and so has to carry the weight of expectations; in Epcot it will be better off among the diverse roster of attractions and isn't even the most ambitious addition at this time (i.e. GotG) or the resort in general - so I think it will be appreciated more as a solid addition.
 
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cjkeating

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Has Ratatouille gained acclaim? I've only heart people complain about it and any positives have been the bolstering of the paltry worst part in the family.

The general public love it, I took three Disney first timers to Disneyland Paris earlier in the year and this was one of their favourite attractions and didn't understand why all of the traditional Fantasyland dark rides weren't like this.
 

doctornick

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Oh I hadn’t thought about that... it would be an excellent fit! I wish so much that we could have Adventurers Club (a family friendly version) at DAK. You know Joe has tried to sneak it in there!

I have never ridden, but I think Mystic Manor has an exploration vibe that fits like a natural fit with DAK. I know many would argue that it doesn't have anything to do with animals or nature and thus would wreck the theme of the park but I tend to think that not every attraction needs to correspond so closely as long as the individual lands/environments work in harmony. And MM does have a monkey!

Plus DAK really could use an indoor more sedate family attraction. NRJ fills that niche but is lacking in quality.

Would Mystic Manor fit on the land that Kali winds around?

I feel like the best space would be in between Kali and Everest - there's some space there (there's a cast break room that would need to be moved) and could set it back in its own environment a bit.
 

peter11435

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I have never ridden, but I think Mystic Manor has an exploration vibe that fits like a natural fit with DAK. I know many would argue that it doesn't have anything to do with animals or nature and thus would wreck the theme of the park but I tend to think that not every attraction needs to correspond so closely as long as the individual lands/environments work in harmony. And MM does have a monkey!

Plus DAK really could use an indoor more sedate family attraction. NRJ fills that niche but is lacking in quality.



I feel like the best space would be in between Kali and Everest - there's some space there (there's a cast break room that would need to be moved) and could set it back in its own environment a bit.
Unless you’re talking outside the perimeter road I don’t see where this is enough room between Everest and kali.
 

Touchdown

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I think Mystic Manor would fit in thematically at AK as part of Discovery Island, problem is there is no room there. Where there is though is on the outskirts of Africa past FotLK on the way to Pandora. Get rid of that parking lot, and I bet it could fit there. A Victorian Colonial Home still fits with Africa, and it’s on the outskirts so it can kind of it be it’s own mini land too.
 
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wdwperry

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I think Mystic Manor would fit in thematically at AK as part of Discovery Island, problem is there is no room there. Where there is too is on the outskirts of Africa past FotLK on the way to Pandora. Get rid of that parking lot, and I bet it could fit there. A Victorian Colonial Home still fits with Africa, and it’s on the outskirts so it can kind of it be it’s own mini land too.

How does a ride about a magical music box that brings inanimate objects to life fit in DAK?
 

SilentWindODoom

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Huh... I suppose I just have a few people deriding the screen-based nature and similar critiques of its scale to what Mermaid got when it opened. Then again, I think a lot of that has calmed down from the initial fury.

As for Mystic Manor... it can be redone to fit, but a 1:1 match doesn't seem to fit at all. Save for the monkey and some of the artifacts being animal-related, it completely... Oh. Oh dear. Someone else commented while I was writing this and pretty much said it. XD

But it can definitely be redone. The question is if they want to invest in the less cost-effective move of adaptation.

As for space, is it possible to half the size by including a lift akin to Rise? I don't know how big the show building is, although there's got to be a number of places where the water is no longer really visible.
 

Touchdown

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How does a ride about a magical music box that brings inanimate objects to life fit in DAK?

1. It stars an animal
2. It’s about Discovery

You know, the same way FN:TM fits. It’s not a perfect fit, but I think it fits the best there compared to anyplace else (but only because the Adventureland expansion site is off Caribbean Plaza, if it was off the main square it would fit best there but that would require taking out the Jungle Cruise.)
 

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